Talk:List of cellists

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This article was nominated for deletion on 2006-12-29. The result of the discussion was Keep.

Contents 1 Needs Alphabetizing 2 List of Cellists and Category 3 Notability 4 Sources 5 Consider listing by century, then by alphabet

[edit] Needs Alphabetizing

Anyone enjoy alphabetizing? CDA 16:48, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] List of Cellists and Category

Is there any reason why we should not replace this list with Category:Cellists. It seems more work to maintain this list by hand than to add the category to the individual cellist pages. Though I suppose this list does encourage people to write articles for those who have no article yet. --imars 07:39, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

I think the solution is to first categorize all the cellists with already existing articles, and then re-nominate it for deletion. I've already added non-existent articles to Requested articles under "Music", so as to still encourage to people to create new articles. CA387 09:13, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notability

Many of the cellists on this list lack notability. Unless the cellist has made specific contributions to the music field—such as authoring books, teaching, or recording—please refrain from adding them (I also suspect that some cellists have been added for self-promotion). Playing well doesn't qualify; prodigies are a dime a dozen these days. I've removed some that aren't notable. CA387 09:44, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Bravo. Ancora, per favore. I've been holding back in this respect because 1) I don't know much about the cellistic world and 2) Notability =/= "reaching the ultimate pinnacle of global fame, so any random street interviewee knows their name." In other words, pretty sure there are lots of notable cellists I've never heard of, but I'm not about to add the name of the 9-year-old up the street whose playing is coming along very nicely. Hope that made at least a bit of sense, __Just plain Bill 12:51, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Take a look at List of violinists to see how this could be done -- how to highlight the legends and masters, while not eliminating the lesser known but deserving cellists. PedEye1 03:54, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

For redlinks, i.e. where there is not a handle to some other place with sources, there should at least be sources that each person is a cellist and is notable. —Centrx→talk • 14:55, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Entirely agree and have removed all redlinked names without sources - some could well have been genuinely notable cellists, but without sources, who's to say? Some were probably vanity edits. For anyone who wants to see whether I have discarded gems with the dross, the pre-clean-up version was this. Bencherlite^Talk 22:25, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Um... actually I think you have discarded some notable cellists, that I would strongly suggest be reinstated, including:

• Myung-Wha Chung:

She is one of the famous Chung siblings (violinist sister Kyung-Wha Chung; pianist/conductor brother Myung-Whun Chung). Was a student of Rose and Piatigorsky. Has played as a soloist with many of the world's top orchestras. Hell, she has even played at the White House and at the United Nations! Has recorded for Decca, EMI, Deutsche Grammophon. She plays the 1731 'Braga' Stradivarius cello. Admittedly she has a lower profile than her two aforementioned siblings, probably because she tends to teach more nowadays rather than concertize, but in short... how can she NOT be included in a list of notable cellists?

• Leo Stern (1862-1904)

Student of the legendary Davidov. Stern was the cellist who premiered the Dvorak cello concerto - with Dvorak himself conducting! He even has a Stradivarius cello named partly after him, the 'General Kyd; ex Stern' Stradivarius (now owned by the Los Angeles Philharmonic). Considering his significance in cellist history, how can he not be considered worthy of Wikipedia notability?

• Carl Fuchs (1865-1951)

Another distinguished historical cellist and pedagogue. Student of Cossman and Davidov. Knew Robert and Clara Schumann. Played under Brahms, Saint-Saens, Hans Richter. Knew many of the legendary virtuosi of the day, such as Anton Rubinstein and Adolph Brodsky. His memoirs (published in 1937) are illuminating to musicologists. --Whimsical Oracle (talk) 01:54, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Okay just want to say that I have just created a new Wikipedia entry for Myung-Wha Chung, so she need no longer be redlinked. I'll try to get round to creating entries for other noteworthy but redlinked cellists when I have the time, if someone else doesn't get there first.

--Whimsical Oracle (talk) 22:05, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Consider listing by century, then by alphabet

As has been done for the Violinists.PedEye1 (talk) 00:55, 26 March 2008 (UTC)