Talk:List of cars

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[edit] Bedfords

The Bedfords are misplaced (should be moved up or indented under Vauxhall). Proffe 23:16, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Are trucks and buses really cars?

Question from a level-3 English user: can we call a big truck and a big bus a car? If we don't - Ukraine's KrAZ and LAZ are irrelevant. But please don't purge the links at all: find the respective lists for them. AlexPU 15:16, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Agree on the merge

I agree on merging the 2 categories. drussel3--Drussel3 00:13, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Disagree on Merge

Two different lists. Manufacturers are not cars. Perhaps the manufacturer's list needs an overhaul, but not a merge into cars. Stude62 17:25, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

No way, the two are quite different lists and must not be merged. Vivek 00:21, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

I disagree on the merge. Actually, I don't see the point of existence of the cars list. All the car models are listed on their brands' pages. For bigger manufacturers there are even categories called "XXX cars" or similar. There have been hundreds of thousands of car models produced, a list listing all of them is irrelevant in my opinion. People tend too look for a specific model either on the manufacturer's page or directly typing in the model name into the searchbox. What's the point of such a list? ImpishGrin 16:51, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Incomplete?

Down in the United States section at least, there are only listings of sub-companies of major car companies. The name of this list and the first line imply that this list is a complete list of every single model of car ever made, yet it is not. --Cabazon 14:39, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Same Things

List of automobile manufacturers and List of cars are exactly the same things except they both each have different information the other doesnt have. Merge the two for a greater article on the same subject.

Agree. The cover the same thing. Merge. // Liftarn
This list appears to be a list of car manufacturers as opposed to a list of models.--CharlieP 23:23, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Global view? Priorities?

DaimlerChrysler*Despite actually being a German manufacturer, many still see Chrysler as an American marque; thus justifying this listing

Firstly, many *Americans* may make that mistake, I don't think it's such a problem elsewhere. Secondly, since when is it the job of Wikipedia to accommodate ignorance?!

[edit] Renaming?

I think a more appropriate name for the list should be "List of Car and Commercial Vehicle manufacturers" ("list of Cars" is too ambitious, since it could never possibly cover every single car model). By the way, from my experience researching this topic throughout my life, this article is the most incredible and "rich" source for relevant information that has ever existed; we should all protect and expand it. Skartsis 09:26, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Questions?

I have three separate questions for everyone on how this page should go forward:

1) Should assembly (and other) operations of foreign manufacturers be listed separately? For example, Ford is listed under USA and Germany, Renault is listed under France and Argentina. Personally, I think companies should be listed just once, as this list is immense enough already.

2) Should the Chinese notations next to the Chinese brands stay on this page? If the relevant linked page has a link to the Chinese version of that page, I see no reason for the Chinese notation in the body of this page. It is confusing to have two languages on the same page, plus it is not consistent-- Chinese is only in the China section, plus other countries do not have notations in their native tongues.

3) Finally, what do users think about adding the dates of production of models? As long as all the models are going to be listed, I think it would be another layer of information to list the start and end of production dates, when known. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SimonX (talkcontribs) 12:11, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] a solution

I have recentley found a French website listing (i think) every car manufacturer to have existed, it lists: The name, country of origin, date of opening and closing of factory.

Hopefully this website can solve this article's incompletion problem, see it at : http://pboursin.club.fr/marques.htm [1] Falcon-eagle2007 (talk) 18:50, 15 February 2008 (UTC)Falcon-Eagle2007Falcon-eagle2007 (talk) 18:50, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How to split?

Does anyone have any ideas on how to split the list up? I was thinking : Americas, Eastern Europe, Western Europe, Asia, and possibly leaving Africa and Oceania on this page, with country-specific lists for US, UK, France, Germany and Italy.

Any thoughts or opinions on this? SimonX (talk) 17:43, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

My only involvement in the article is in closing the AfD, but I wanted to note that it sounds good to me, although this list should then be moved to a region-specific name. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:10, 9 April 2008 (UTC)