Talk:List of career achievements by Tiger Woods
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[edit] Comparison to Jones is not consistent
In the "Records and trivia" section under Major Championships, it says:
"Woods and Bobby Jones are the only golfers to have won 10 majors before the age of 30. Jones achieved 13 majors in 21 attempts, (winning percentage 62%), while Woods achieved 10 wins in 44 attempts (a 23% winning ratio)"
That is incorrect and inconsistent.
First, Tiger turned 30 at the end of 2005, by which time he had played in 42 majors, not 44 (unless you are counting US Amateurs as majors, in which case he had 13 wins, not 10). Whoever compiled this stat apparently didn't notice that Tiger didn't play the PGA in 1995 and 1996 (as he wasn't a pro then).
Second, you are counting Bobby Jones's US Amateurs as majors, so IMO you should also count Tiger's. He won that event in 1994, 1995, and 1996, at ages 18, 19, and 20. He is the only golfer to ever win three in a row.
Third, you are apparently counting all of Tiger's attempts at majors, including amateur attempts before age 21. But you start counting Jones's majors with his first win at age 21, ignoring ten majors he lost before then (according to his entry in Wikipedia). While it may make sense to not include his attempt at age 14 in his percentage, it should still be noted so that the record is complete. And eight of Jones's attempts were at age 18 or later. Since you count Tiger's attempts at that age, you should count Jones's attempts.
IMO, to be consistent, you should count US Amateur titles for both players, and you should begin at age 18 for both players. If you do that, Tiger has 13 wins in 45 attempts (42 pro majors and three US Ams), while Jones has 13 wins in 29 attempts.
An alternative would be to begin both men's count at age 21. Then Jones would have 13 out of 21 (as stated on the Jones web page cited in the article), and Tiger would have 10 out of 36, but his US Amateur wins would not count. I see no justification for not counting them.
Or you could just include every attempt by both players. That would give Jones 13 out of 31. I don't know whether Tiger entered any US Ams before age 18.
In any case, the article as it stands gives an inconsistent and misleading comparison, and it should be corrected to be more consistent and informative, with regard to the teenage amateur record of both players.
70.56.30.90 (talk) 23:54, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
