Talk:List of breeds of cattle

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1 Reformat
2 Uncategorised breeds
3 Taurine/indicus cattle
4 Primitive cattle

[edit] Reformat

I am planning on undertaking a major reformatting on this page, separating the breeds into Dairy, Beef and Draft breeds. I'll also try to create articles (or stubs) on all missing breeds. Abbott75 02:14, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

All articles are now categorised into appropriate sections. I will now continue researching and creating missing stubs. You can help! - Abbott75 07:22, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Looks great! I'll try to help out. -- Bovineone 15:31, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

May I just say that while the detail is impressive there are some errors for correction. Having Jersey cattle under dual purpose is wrong,this is about the worst beef breed ever, you sometimes can't give bull calves away. They are present under dairy, this is sufficient. Also, in the uncategorized section, listing "American" Brown Swiss, "French" or "Austrian" Simmental etc. is unnecessary, as these are just the different countries' herd book names for the same breed. You can say "Canadian" or "British" Holstein, but there is still only one breed and one article. Regards. Tractorboy60 07:50, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

I have fixed a few of the problems that you have mentioned. Feel free to make any further edits that you feel are appropriate. Abbott75 ☺ 10:14, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm beginning to see more to this problem. There are in fact links to separate breed societies such as French Simmental whereas common sense says this is just the French herdbook of the Simmental breed. This is inaccurate and I intend to look into this and correct the errors or recommend merges with references. I am sure the authors of these were writing in good faith.Tractorboy60 20:08, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I am by no means a cattle expert, I merely maintain this page because domestic animal breeds are an interest of mine. Please, feel free to correct any inaccuracies you come across and merge where necessary! Abbott75 ☺ 23:35, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I will do this but as I'm sure you've already found, the need to accurately reference is very time-consuming.Tractorboy60 09:00, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Uncategorised breeds

The uncategorised breeds section of this article is one that really needs the attention of someone more knowledgeable than me. It is currently a self-reference section, and they are frowned upon on Wikipedia. Abbott75 ☺ 23:38, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Taurine/indicus cattle

I have changed "cattle proper" to "taurine cattle" throughout this article.

"Cattle proper" simply won't do. It implies that somehow indicus (and hybrid) cattle are not cattle. They are. It would be no less meaningful to say that indicus cattle are the "proper" cattle. It seems to me that the use of "proper" for either type amounts to cultural or geographic bias, or indeed both. It can be avoided easily by using the term "taurine". Unless anyone can think of a better term? --Richard New Forest (talk) 21:11, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Primitive cattle

"Somewhere in England" there is a herd of primitive cattle - which are they? Jackiespeel (talk) 16:10, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Chillingham Cattle have been left to their own devises for several centuries in a large walled park and are effectively wild. --Charles (talk) 17:12, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

It probably is the Chillinghams being referred to. They are reputed to be descended directly from wild aurochs, and are genetically distinct – although in fact they are probably not any more "primitive" than other White Park cattle, or indeed other traditional breeds, such as Sussex cattle, Highland cattle, Kerry cattle or my own British Whites. They do live wild though, with no castration and no human intervention apart from feeding hay (apparently they won't eat cake). --Richard New Forest (talk) 18:23, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I think these are the beasties - they are mentioned on TV occasionally. Jackiespeel (talk) 16:12, 18 April 2008 (UTC)