Talk:List of battery sizes

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[edit] Antiquity

The article mentions in the notes 6V etc batteries are commonly real batteries with multiple cells.. Should we mention how these batteries are usually made? For example, I believe 6V lattern batteries are usually 4 F type cells 60.234.141.76 14:14, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

I believe that the "L" e.g. in "LR6" etc is the chemistry type definition within the IEC standard, and not part of the cell size definition. That is, the IEC size code for an "AA" battery (for example) is "R6" rather than "LR6" - the "L" meaning manganese-alkaline. I do not have a copy of IEC60086 to hand, I hope that somebody who does can confirm or refute this.

Would the 6V 2CR5/DL245 battery or the rechargeable EN-EL1 li-ion battery fit anywhere on this list?

[edit] Typical Thevenin Equivalent(fresh)

This would probably be better as 'approximate output resistance', because the voltage is already in the voltage column. PeterGrecian 13:19, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Massive Rewrite

Was really irked by every battery maker using a different name for the exact same battery, so I decided to clean this up a little.

Summary:

  • Focused in on the 'common' battery types, all those obscure types (like AAAA or 2/4 C) would be better in a separate table, or even a separate article. It's almost impossible to get any data on those obscure sizes as well.
  • Got most of my data from Energiser/Eveready Data Sheets, but a lot from other sources
  • Someone killed all my pics before I even finished the article. Perhaps telling me why in my talk page would help me not do it again :P
  • Need to add the IEC/ANSI names and mAh for NiCD, NiMH versions of the common sizes.
  • Need to re-add some the contents from original article with complete data supplied.
  • I still haven't found CR927, AG3, or AG4 size batteries which I use all the time. :( (I'm tired and need to go to class) Tiki God 18:15, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Massive Rewrite (Update)

I've added tonnes more stuff and polished it up to the point that it's easy to add data too. It's still a little obscure the difference between 'battery size', 'battery type' and 'battery configuration' but that reflects the ambiguity in common usage and language for batteries.

  • Battery Size / Type
    • It's physical dimensions
    • It's physical dimensions / anode-cathode layout'
    • It's voltage
    • It's chemistry
    • The mAh storage capacity ('size')


Tiki God 08:29, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Note about CMOS memory

Someone added 'and CMOS settings' to CR2032 battery. It is the most commonly used battery to keep the time current in a computer, and in the past it did keep the CMOS settings, but I think most newer computers use EEPROMs for the settings and the battery is only for the date. In the past I've worked on computers that lose everything when you take the battery out (which is really annoying), and those that only lose thier dates when the battery is removed. Still it was true, and I bet still true for cheaper boards or boards designed to be replaced before the battery wears out (The battery only depletes when the computer is off AND disconnected from all power). The boards that don't lose thier settings typically take a few seconds to 'save' new settings (like flash drives).


Tiki God 08:29, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Actually, in newer computers, the BIOS data is stored in a permanent flash memory inside the RTC (real time clock) component. It is a rather big black square box usually sitting near the BIOS chip itself and marked with a clock symbol and/or the manufacturer name (ODIN, etc.). Still, I think the entry can stay unchanged.
da_baitsnatcha 19:02, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't see any RTC modules in new computers. I have seen them, but only in older computers. --ginbot86 —Preceding comment was added at 05:34, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Type A Battery

There used to be this type of battery which is no longer in use. It was a large cylinder with terminals on top, think it was called a Type A. Anyone want to do a short article on that?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.41.204.3 (talk • contribs) 16:00, 16 October 2006

Do you mean the beer-can-sized 1.5V telephone exchange battery, once beloved of school physics departments? I think that was the No. 6.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.12.144.21 (talk • contribs) 00:44, 6 November 2006

Actually, I have seen the Type A, it looks like a fatter AA. I saw it in the back of classic Apple Macintosh models such as the Mac Plus, where it kept CMOS settings and the real time clock running. I don't think that there's anywhere to get replacements, but the Mac Plus batteries did say 'A' on them. 74.1.184.250 22:28, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

The battery used in the 680x0 Macintoshs are called 1/2 AA. The voltage is 3.6V volts though, and it is a lithium battery. da_baitsnatcha 19:10, 26 March 2007 (UTC)


Type "A" NiCd cells are still commonly used in the radio control hobby.
There are several other obscure cell types/sizes not yet included in this article, such as the "1/2"x and "2/3"x (where "x" is a common cell type such as A, AA, C, etc.) commonly used in the radio control hobby. I would also like to see, probably as a separate table, a list of obsolete cell/battery types such as RW-25 and Eveready No. 206.
71.108.222.81 21:04, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
I remember a type "A" battery when I was a kid, about 4 decades ago. It was slightly taller and fatter than an "AA", in the same way that an "AA" is slightly taller and fatter than a "AAA". It was in a home electronics project transistor radio, you know one those deals where you bought resistors, capacitors, coils, variable capacitors, transistors, and soldered them together according to a schematic in a boys' magazine. It had an orange-red color and a glossy-looking paper label; it was Eveready 9 lives, I think. Now that I think of it, I could be wrong, inasmuch as I doubt that 1.5 volts is enough to bias a 2N103 transistor; forgive me, it has been a long time since I have dealt with this sort of thing.

Jerry guru (talk) 04:49, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Manganese debated

I do not think manganese battery equals alkaline battery. Batteries marked as "Alkaline" are truly long-lasting in use, while cells marked as "manganese" are usually marketed as "Heavy Duty", for eaxmple the Panasonic green apple logo batteries (like these: http://www.babyandcompany.co.za/batteries2.html). These are somewhat half-way between carbon-zinc and alkalines. So I think alkaline and manganese single use cells are two distinct category and so the cell tech table in the article is incorrect. 195.70.32.136 12:25, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

If you follow the links to zinc-carbon and alkaline you will see that there is manganese in both of them, but the rest of the chemistry is different. (I will expand the alkaline article a bit) Han-Kwang 12:48, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] origin of common names

The article uses what it calls the "common names" like "AA", "AAA", "C", "D" and "PP9" without further explanation. Where did these names come from - are they just product names from a particular manufacturer (EverReady?)--feline1 16:01, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Common name means just that, the name most likely to be used by an English speaker in North America, The Isles, or The Colonies. It is also the name most likely to be prominently displayed on the battery packaging.
I think that in the past Britain used a system of battery names based loosely on the IEC naming (like R2, R4) but now uses the 'common names' listed here (I could be wrong). I see that you are in Britain, perhaps you could go to the corner shop and tell us what the 'most common' name (currently, not 10 years ago) used for these various battery sizes is. If it's different then you can put it in the 'common name section' followed by "(Britain)" like the way different chemistries are listed. I am actually somewhat curious because I think these 'common names' are a recent (last 10 years) international standardization effort.
They are not manufacturer names, who notoriously rename batteries (at least with the more obscure sizes) to confuse customers into buying their specific brand of battery. (See LR44_battery as an example)
Tiki God 10:46, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
I would like to see mention of where these so-called "common names" originated too. Saying that common names are "most likely to be used" and "most likely to be prominently displayed on the battery packaging" is pointless, we already knew that (duh!) But those designations had to originate somewhere; where was that? Also, those names are at least 30 years old. I had a radio-controlled toy Ferrari in the late 1970s, of which I recently saw another example at an antique toy fair (like new in the box), that was marked in the battery compartment as using type "AA (UM-3)" cells.
71.108.222.81 20:48, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Battery categories

This article is making a good attempt to list many battery varieties along with all the common names. It is clearly incomplete, for example there are many more types of button cell than listed here. Because the list would be enormous and unwieldy if/when all types are included I think it would be a good idea to list various battery types separately (eg all button cells together in one list) and introduce further categories for different general uses/types. For example, one category could be "standard" 1.5V types, and include AAAA, AAA, AA, C, D. Other potential categories are listed below, which I have singled out because there are some known (to me) omissions.

Historically there have been all manner of batteries, especially for valve-operated equipment (I believe these fell into three different sub-categories with different voltages for different parts of the circuitry, and some batteries had multiple connections to supply more than one of the different voltages so fitting into multiple sub-categories). I have no more information on these, but it might be a good idea to separately list current and obsolete types, and in the latter case include modern-day alternatives for people searching for suitable batteries for old equipment.

As the list becomes more complete and the entries more obscure, I am sure that not all types will have a "common" name, just some official name. It's probably best not to list them by that common name, especially as the common name is not necessarily universal. I think AA etc are fairly ubiquitous - are these not something more official than just a commonly-used name?

I appreciate I am raising the possibility of including far more batteries with very few specific details; I apologize! I am happy to rearrange the article into the general framework suggested if people think it is a good idea, and then let the experts come and provide the details!

I've just bought a gadget (made in China), which states on the box, that it operates with two "AM 3" batteries. Luckily, there are "AA" marks under the battery cover, but this page has no information about this standard (there are "AM 2" and "AM 1" batteries out there, as I've found them elsewhere). 82.141.167.23 12:35, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

am 1 = D am 2 = C am 3 = AA am 4 = AAA am 5 = N

These seem to be alternate names used by Asian countries for these common types. Several articles seem to suggest the "am" stands for "American" (probably ANSI).

Tiki God 11:19, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 9V Radio Batteries

In addition to PP3 there were various other PPx batteries, most of which were, I believe, primarily used as radio batteries. PP7 and PP9 were definitely 9V radio batteries, and are still available (albeit, rare). Google suggests other PPx batteries existed and that the PP8 was 6V, but I cannot vouch for this.

I remember in England in the 1960s, there were several different sizes of larger 9 volt batteries. A common one was about 2 1/2" x 2 1/2" x 3" high. They were made by Ever-Ready, which had a near-monopoly of the British market back then. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.142.215.202 (talk) 03:52, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lantern Batteries

The article mentions "big" lantern batteries, but there were/are at least three sizes of lantern battery that I recall.

[edit] Lead Acid Batteries

There are many standard lead acid batteries available which are not included at all at present. These fall into (at least) two main categories: those used in automotive applications and smaller varieties generally used in intruder alarms etc.

[edit] Radio controlled equipment batteries

I am not a radio controlled equipment user, but I notice that there seems to be many, presumably standard, rechargeable battery packs used in such equipment. They generally look like several cells "shrink wrapped" together.

Ros0709

This is true. The concept of these rechargeable battery packs is always the same though. There are standard voltage ratings for such packs, so you will most likely have ratings like 7.2V, 9.6V or 12V on these packs. Since 1.2V rechargeable batteries are used, the packs always contain an even number of cells. This is done for packaging reasons, I suppose.
Depending on what battery size you use A,AA,etc. the capacitiy varies.
The connectors are semi-standard, a few connector types introduced by different companies have coexisted for years.
This leads to a lot of different versions that have not been named or something like that. I don't think this deserves an entry because it is actually just custom packaging of cells and not a cell type.
da_baitsnatcha 19:20 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] About Battery Categories and Common Names

[edit] Common Names

I have no idea where these common names have come from, if you can find out feel free to add a paragraph here. All I can do is list what I see in any drug store, or corner market, or at Radio Shack.

[edit] Old/Obscure Batteries

Before I massively rewrote and cleaned up this article there were actually quite a few 'obscure' battery types listed, like 1/3C, or 2/3C. They had no info other than a name. It was virtually impossible to find even the most rudimentary information about these batteries. I took them out because, while they did exist, they are not really a 'currently' used battery. I suggested then, and again now, that old, discontinued, or very obscure batteries be listed in a separate article, like List of old battery sizes.

The only new(ish) battery I've seen added (ever) is the CR123 (Camera Battery), which while being very close to a size C, is a high drain Lithium chemistry. Clearly the need for such a battery overcame the industry tendency to settle on a few standard sizes.


"'obscure' battery types listed, like 1/3C, or 2/3C."

standard battery type used in most cordless tools today Tabby 14:51, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Button Cells

I'm sure there have been thousands of button cells over the years but right now, these are the most common ones used and available. Like the old/obscure batteries there is no info available on discontinued button cells. In the past decades many button cells (like other batteries) have become standardized to a few dozen sizes. If you make a product that doesn't used a 'currently common' button cell then it will fail commercially, thus self reinforcing the current few dozen sizes.

[edit] Categories

Since there are not that many currently used common battery sizes (less than 50 including button cells), I don't think It necessary to split up this article into separate sections or articles. For me, I wanted people to be able to put in "CR2032", or "Size N Battery" or "AAAA", and come here to get basic info until (if ever) someone makes an article for that specific battery. A single article can't be all things, and knowing when to make a new article is part of Wikipedia.

[edit] History of Battery Sizes

A section about the history of the the 'common names' would be nice, especially if the most used name has changed over time. For example, I think that "PP3" was actually the most common name long ago but NOW the most common name is "9-Volt". Many of the valve batteries you mentioned were never used by normal people for any common purpose. Before you clutter up this article or hack it to death, it would be better to put that info into a separate article.

[edit] Lantern Batteries

I've only seen two types of lantern batteries currently available (three if you count screw-top/spring-top as separate batteries). Also the 'common' names are a little less 'firm' for lantern batteries than for the regular batteries and button cells, hence why there are so many common names listed for each.

[edit] Lead Acid Batteries

I have no information about car/marine/backup batteries like this, but they generally do not have a 'common designation' that an everyday consumer would recognize. Like the old valve batteries they tend to change from car to car and year to year and an article about 'battery sizes' is NOT the place to list the hundreds (or thousands) of batteries like this. They last a long time, so there has never been an industry push to 'winnow out the field' of batteries like this. From working with cars myself I would bet that manufacturers purposely change them every year (like car models and auto parts) just to make it hard for after market manufacturers to make workable alternatives. Also, this would probably be better in List of obscure battery sizes.

[edit] Hobbyist Batteries

The "4.5-Volt" and "Size N" are commonly used in radio controlled vehicles. I think there may be a few other 'standardized packs' that should be here, but if it is incredibly obscure it should be in List of obscure battery sizes

[edit] Coda

Anyway, your heart seems in the right place, but most of your suggestions would be better off in separate articles, with links to and from here. This would preserve the integrity of this article as well as those related articles.

Tiki God 21:00, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CR2

Noticed that type CR2 is missing from your table. In size, it is between N and CR123, and will cost you $10 at Walgreens. Jerry guru (talk) 04:39, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Terminal Layout of Latern Batteries

The terminal layout of square, 6 volt lantern batteries should be center post (-) and corner post (+). The ANSI specification document has this layout. I have corrected the table. Bear475 01:38, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More NiCd Values

noticed some missing capacity values for various NiCd batteries. Hoping that someone who can manipulate the table code can add these values: 9 volt 100-120mAh C 1600-2500 mAh D 1600-5000 mAh AA 700-1000 mAh AAA 300 mAh I cite as my source: http://www.batteriesandbutter.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=nicad Jerry guru (talk) 04:29, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Table is rather wide

The table of battery sizes is rather wide, and forces my browser to scroll horizontally. It would be preferable for it to not do this; is there a way to reduce the width or number of columns to make for a narrower table? --Brandon Dilbeck 00:27, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Table Width

I share your pain. Since Windows XP doesn't have any decent resizing (that applies across all formats and programs) I run my monitor at 800x600 to make everything bigger so I can see it. There's no real way to make the table less wide without losing some data or making the text too tiny to read. I tried to keep the most important data (names and alternate names) on the left so that one only has to scroll right if one wants more detailed info about a specific battery. I tried shifting the table into the left column that wastes 20% of every page, but it doesn't work in all browsers. Sorry.

Tiki God 01:41, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Table width fix: two rows of data per battery

If you want this to all fit on a low-resolution screen without horizontal scrolling, you're just going to have to accept that there is too much data to have all the data in one long row. Here is an example I've created of how this could be done. Note I have room for yet another field by the comments, so why not throw in a cropped image of each battery (if available)? DMahalko 05:25, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Most
Common
Name		 IEC
Name		 Typical Capacity
(mAh)		 Shape Terminal layout Comments
Other
Names		 ANSI/NEDA
Name		 Nominal Voltage Dimensions Image
123 CR17354 (Lithium) 1500 (Lithium)
700 (Li-Ion)		 Cylinder + Nub cylinder end
- Flat opposite end		 123 always implies lithium chemistry
Camera Battery
CR123		 5018LC (Lithium) 3 volts L 34.5 mm
D 17 mm
4.5 Volt 3LR12 (alkaline)
3R12 (carbon-zinc)		 2500 (alkaline)
1200 (carbon-zinc)		 Flat pack + short terminal strip
- long terminal strip		 May be replaced by 3 AA cells using a plastic stub enclosure (not practical)
Bardic Lamp Battery
Pocketable Battery
1203
4.5 V 		 MN1203 (manganese) 4.5 (always) H 70 mm
L 60 mm
W 22 mm
9 Volt 6LR61 (alkaline)
6F22 (carbon-zinc)
6KR61 (NiCd)		 565 (alkaline)
400 (carbon-zinc)
1200 (lithium)
120 (NiCd)
175 (NiMH)
500 (Lithium polymer rechrg)		 Rectangular both small end
+ male clasp
- female clasp		 Many (not all) 9 V batteries are an array of 6 reversed-polarity (nub is negative while can is positive) AAAA batteries welded together internally
PP3
9-Volt
Radio battery		 1604A (alkaline)
1604D (carbon-zinc)
1604LC (Lithium)
11604 (NiCd)
7.2H5 (NiMH)		 9
7.2 (NiCd)
7.2 (NiMH)
8.4 (some NiCd and NiMH)		 H 48.5 mm
L 26.5 mm
W 17.5 mm
A23 3LR50 (alkaline) 40 (alkaline) Cylinder
(or button stack)		 + Nub cylinder end
- Flat opposite end		 Used in small RF devices such as key fob-style garage door openers and keyless entry systems where only infrequent pulse current is used. Sometimes enclosed like a normal battery but sometimes a stack of 8 LR932 button cells shrink wrapped together. (see here about naming)
23A
3LR50		 1181A (alkaline) 12 L 29 mm
D 10 mm
AA LR6 (alkaline)
R6 (carbon-zinc)
FR6 (Lithium-FeS2)
KR157/51 (NiCd)		 2700 (alkaline)
1100 (carbon-zinc)
3000 (Lithium-FeS2)
600-1000 (NiCd)
1700-2900 (NiMH)		 Cylinder + Nub cylinder end
- Flat opposite end		 C7/HP7;
Penlight
Mignon		 15A (alkaline)
15D (carbon-zinc)
15LF (Lithium-FeS2)
10015 (NiCd)
1.2H2 (NiMH)		 1.5
1.2 (NiCd)
1.2 (NiMH)		 L 50.5 mm
D 13.5-14.5 mm
AAA LR03 (alkaline)
R03 (carbon-zinc)		 1200 (alkaline)
540 (carbon-zinc)
800-1000 (Ni-MH)		 Cylinder + Nub cylinder end
- Flat opposite end		 C16/HP16;
Microlight
Potlood		 24A (alkaline)
24D (carbon-zinc)		 1.5
1.2 (NiCd)
1.2 (NiMH)		 L 44.5 mm
D 10.5 mm		 25px
AAAA LR8D425 (alkaline) 625 (alkaline) Cylinder + Nub cylinder end
- Flat opposite end		 Obscure type sometimes used in 'pen flashlights' or electronic glucose meters. Most common use is as an internal component of 9v batteries.
25A (alkaline) 1.5 v L 42.5 mm
D 8.3 mm
C LR14 (alkaline)
R14 (carbon-zinc)		 8000 (alkaline)
3800 (carbon-zinc)		 Cylinder + Nub cylinder end
- Flat opposite end		 C11/SP11/HP11; Can be replaced with alkaline AA cell using plastic sabot (stub case)
Mignon 14A (alkaline)
14D (carbon-zinc)		 1.5 v L 50 mm
D 26.2 mm
See naming notes below about CR battery types
CR927     Coin + bottom/sides
- top		 This obscure type of lithium coin cell is used extensively in blinkies.
  30 (Lithium) 3 v D 9.5 mm
H 2.7 mm
CR1220 CR1220 (Lithium) 40 (Lithium) Coin + bottom/sides
- top		 Standard Discharge Current: 0.1 mA.
    3 v D 12.5 mm
H 2.0 mm
CR1225 CR1225 (Lithium) 50 (Lithium) Coin + bottom/sides
- top		 Standart discharge current: 0.2 mA. Maximum discharge current: 1 mA. Maximum pulse discharge current: 5 mA.
    3 v D 12.5 mm
H 2.5 mm
CR1620 CR1620 (Lithium) 78 (Lithium) Coin + bottom/sides
- top		 Standard Discharge Current: 0.1 mA.
    3 v D 16 mm
H 2.0 mm
CR2016 CR2016 (Lithium) 90 (Lithium) Coin + bottom/sides
- top		 Standard Discharge Current: 0.1 mA. Often used in pairs instead of CR2032 for devices that require more than 3 volts, like blue/white LED flashlights. CAUTION: Using 2 CR2016 when not specified can damage a device.
  5000LC (Lithium) 3 v D 20 mm
H 1.6 mm
CR2025 CR2025 (Lithium) 160 (Lithium) Coin + bottom/sides
- top		 Standard Discharge Current: 0.2 mA.
   ? (Lithium) 3 v D 20 mm
H 2.5 mm
CR2032 CR2032 (Lithium) 225 (Lithium) Coin + bottom/sides
- top		 Standard Discharge Current: 0.2 mA. Maximum discharge current: 3 mA. Maximum pulse discharge current: 15 mA. Common battery in computers to keep the date and CMOS settings current when power is off.
  5004LC (Lithium) 3 v D 20 mm
H 3.2 mm

(... I'm not duplicating the whole table just to make an example.) :-) DMahalko 05:25, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Table Format?

Woa. Since I use css instead of tables I never knew one could do row spans as well as column spans. I generally like it EXCEPT that having data other than the most common name in the same column makes it harder to read. I would make the name and alternate name both two rowspan entries then the rest just like it is. Maybe this weekend I'll try converting it. Nice work.

The pictures are nice but they lack something without perspective. the AA looks just like AAAA. Maybe pictures with a perspective item like a dime, or a #2 pencil would be better. Still nice though.

Tiki God 08:24, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
Most
Common
Name		 Other
Names		 IEC
Name		 Typical Capacity
(mAh)		 Shape Terminal layout Comments
ANSI/NEDA
Name		 Nominal Voltage Dimensions Image
9 Volt PP3
9-Volt
Radio battery		 6LR61 (alkaline)
6F22 (carbon-zinc)
6KR61 (NiCd)		 565 (alkaline)
400 (carbon-zinc)
1200 (lithium)
120 (NiCd)
175 (NiMH)
500 (Lithium polymer rechrg)		 Rectangular both small end
+ male clasp
- female clasp		 Many (not all) 9 V batteries are an array of 6 reversed-polarity (nub is negative while can is positive) AAAA batteries welded together internally
1604A (alkaline)
1604D (carbon-zinc)
1604LC (Lithium)
11604 (NiCd)
7.2H5 (NiMH)		 9 (alkaline)
7.2 (NiCd)
7.2 (NiMH)
8.4 (some NiCd and NiMH)		 H 48.5 mm
L 26.5 mm
W 17.5 mm

[edit] Battery table as 3x3 matrix

Putting the "other names" in a separate column unfortunately pushes the table off the right edge for people at 800x600 resolution.

There is enough data to put nine items in a 3x3 grid with the comments along the right. This is friendly to 800x600 resolution, and orders the data in a clear manner since the three different naming conventions and the textual shape explanations are all in the same columns.

Most
Common
Name		 IEC
Name		 Typical Capacity
(mAh)		 Shape Comments
ANSI/NEDA
Name		 Nominal Voltage Dimensions
Other
Names		 Image Terminal layout
9 Volt 6LR61 (alkaline)
6F22 (carbon-zinc)
6KR61 (NiCd)		 565 (alkaline)
400 (carbon-zinc)
1200 (lithium)
120 (NiCd)
175 (NiMH)
500 (Lithium polymer rechrg)		 Rectangular Many (not all) 9 V batteries are an array of 6 reversed-polarity (nub is negative while can is positive) AAAA batteries welded together internally
1604A (alkaline)
1604D (carbon-zinc)
1604LC (Lithium)
11604 (NiCd)
7.2H5 (NiMH)		 9 (alkaline)
7.2 (NiCd)
7.2 (NiMH)
8.4 (some NiCd and NiMH)		 H 48.5 mm
L 26.5 mm
W 17.5 mm
PP3
9-Volt
Radio battery		 both small end
+ male clasp
- female clasp

DMahalko 02:19, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Other Table Ideas

That's good too, but I would put other names above IEC and ANSI. Many of the other names were the most common names in the past and/or the most common names in some (smaller) English speaking countries.

How things are viewed at different resolutions and on different browsers is somewhat subjective. Your last example is totally within my 800x600 screen. But my last example is also totally within my screen on Opera 9.21, Explorer 7.0.5730.11, but just barely over the edge of Firefox 2.0.0.4. And the comments are usually missing or irrelevant on most batteries.

I myself only use 800x600 because I have bad eyesight and Windows XP has a crummy inconsistent resisize scheme so that some things are gigantic, while others are tiny. The only sure way to make EVERYTHING in XP scale larger is to decrease one's resolution. (I also have a 22" CRT monitor, that weighs 80 pounds, and can do 2048x1536) Also, some people use the built in text resizing system available in all browsers, which would make the table larger or smaller.

And, lastly while I sympathize with 800x600 people. I have to admit that it is going the way of 640x480. 1024x768 is much more common, especially with the new lower cost of LCD monitors. Yours does look nicer than even my last one.

One last thing, I can't quite envision it, but perhaps a layout like this last one, but the shape (which is usually very short and one word), the picture (so it can be bigger) and the comments (so they can be smaller) arranged in a slightly different way. Still your last one is much better than mine.

Most
Common
Name		 Other
Names		 Typical Capacity
(mAh)		 Image
IEC
Name		 Nominal Voltage Dimensions Comments
ANSI/NEDA
Name		 Shape Terminal layout
 
9 Volt PP3
9-Volt
Radio battery		 565 (alkaline)
400 (carbon-zinc)
1200 (lithium)
120 (NiCd)
175 (NiMH)
500 (Lithium polymer rechrg)
6LR61 (alkaline)
6F22 (carbon-zinc)
6KR61 (NiCd)		 9 (alkaline)
7.2 (NiCd)
7.2 (NiMH)
8.4 (some NiCd and NiMH)		 H 48.5 mm
L 26.5 mm
W 17.5 mm		 Many (not all) 9 V batteries are an array of 6 reversed-polarity (nub is negative while can is positive) AAAA batteries welded together internally
1604A (alkaline)
1604D (carbon-zinc)
1604LC (Lithium)
11604 (NiCd)
7.2H5 (NiMH)		 Rectangular both small end
+ male clasp
- female clasp

This is not quite right, but I just sprained my brain. :(

Tiki God 14:49, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Weight (Grams)

If the eventual table needs another entry to balance, then weight (in grams) would be logical. I keep meaning to add weight to the table. It would probably be different for different chemistries and have some moderate variation from manufacturer to manufacturer, but it would still be useful.

Tiki God 10:47, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Most
Common
Name		 Other
Names		 Typical Capacity
(mAh)		 Shape Image
IEC
Name		 Nominal Voltage Dimensions Comments
ANSI/NEDA
Name		 Weight Terminal layout
 
9 Volt PP3
9-Volt
Radio battery		 565 (alkaline)
400 (carbon-zinc)
1200 (lithium)
120 (NiCd)
175 (NiMH)
500 (Lithium polymer rechrg)		 Rectangular
6LR61 (alkaline)
6F22 (carbon-zinc)
6KR61 (NiCd)		 9 (alkaline)
7.2 (NiCd)
7.2 (NiMH)
8.4 (NiCd, 7-cells)
8.4 (NiMH, 7-cells)
 H 48.5mm
L 26.5mm
W 17.5mm		 Many (not all) 9 V batteries are an array of 6 reversed-polarity (nub is negative while can is positive) AAAA batteries welded together internally
1604A (alkaline)
1604D (carbon-zinc)
1604LC (Lithium)
11604 (NiCd)
7.2H5 (NiMH)		 46.5g (alkaline) both small end
+ male clasp
- female clasp

I think we have winner here. Maybe

[edit] 3x3 table as a masked 6x6 table

May I present to you: the hacked 6x6 table, which looks like a 3x3 table. Since I cannot specify a cell height of "1.5" cells, I am changing this into a table 6 cells tall so that I can span 3 rows instead.

It appears I cannot have cell rows with no cell data, so there is a filler cell for each row that appears way on the far right edge just to make the table render correctly. These empty cells must exist for this table method to work.

Most
Common
Name		 Other
Names		 Typical Capacity
(mAh)		 Shape Image  
 
IEC
Name		 Dimensions  
Nominal Voltage Comments  
ANSI/NEDA
Name		 Terminal layout  
 
9 Volt PP3
9-Volt
Radio battery		 565 (alkaline)
400 (carbon-zinc)
1200 (lithium)
120 (NiCd)
175 (NiMH)
500 (Lithium polymer rechrg)		 Rectangular  
 
6LR61 (alkaline)
6F22 (carbon-zinc)
6KR61 (NiCd)		 H 48.5 mm
L 26.5 mm
W 17.5 mm		  
9 (alkaline)
7.2 (NiCd)
7.2 (NiMH)
8.4 (some NiCd and NiMH)		 Many (not all) 9 V batteries are an array of 6 reversed-polarity (nub is negative while can is positive) AAAA batteries welded together internally  
1604A (alkaline)
1604D (carbon-zinc)
1604LC (Lithium)
11604 (NiCd)
7.2H5 (NiMH)		 both small end
+ male clasp
- female clasp		  
 

DMahalko 09:54, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

My brain just exploded. (I like the one with the weight best so far.) Maybe have the pic a 2 rowspan and the comments a 1 rowspan, instead. Remember, that other people are goind to (try) and add to this table and they will invariably mess it up badly if it is too over the top complicated.

Tiki God 11:51, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More Simple + Image inserted into Comments

It occurred to me that not every battery will have an image and not every battery will have comments, so why not combine them both in the last column? This would also make the whole thing more simple (that is, no need to constantly fix table errors made by other people). Also the placement of the Image/Comments can vary depending on the desired size of the image and the length (if any) of the comments.'

I think I'm gonna run with this (soon) unless there are objections.

Tiki God 23:56, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Most
Common
Name		 Other
Names		 Typical Capacity
(mAh)		 Shape Image / Comments
IEC
Name		 Nominal Voltage Dimensions
ANSI/NEDA
Name		 Weight Terminal layout
Example 1 : Image-Right, Comments-Wrapped
9 Volt PP3
9-Volt
Radio battery		 565 (alkaline)
400 (carbon-zinc)
1200 (lithium)
120 (NiCd)
175 (NiMH)
500 (Lithium polymer rechrg)		 Rectangular

Many (not all) 9 Volt batteries are an array of 6 reversed polarity (nub is negative while can is positive) AAAA batteries welded together internally.
6LR61 (alkaline)
6F22 (carbon-zinc)
6KR61 (NiCd)		 9 (alkaline)
7.2 (NiCd)
7.2 (NiMH)
8.4 (NiCd, 7-cells)
8.4 (NiMH, 7-cells)		 H 48.5mm
L 26.5mm
W 17.5mm
1604A (alkaline)
1604D (carbon-zinc)
1604LC (Lithium)
11604 (NiCd)
7.2H5 (NiMH)		 46.5g (alkaline) both small end
+ male clasp
- female clasp
Example 2 : Image-Large/Centre, Comments-Below
9 Volt PP3
9-Volt
Radio battery		 565 (alkaline)
400 (carbon-zinc)
1200 (lithium)
120 (NiCd)
175 (NiMH)
500 (Lithium polymer rechrg)		 Rectangular

Many (not all) 9 Volt batteries are an array of 6 reversed polarity (nub is negative while can is positive) AAAA batteries welded together internally.
6LR61 (alkaline)
6F22 (carbon-zinc)
6KR61 (NiCd)		 9 (alkaline)
7.2 (NiCd)
7.2 (NiMH)
8.4 (NiCd, 7-cells)
8.4 (NiMH, 7-cells)		 H 48.5mm
L 26.5mm
W 17.5mm
1604A (alkaline)
1604D (carbon-zinc)
1604LC (Lithium)
11604 (NiCd)
7.2H5 (NiMH)		 46.5g (alkaline) both small end
+ male clasp
- female clasp
Example 3 : Image-Left, Comments-Wrapped
9 Volt PP3
9-Volt
Radio battery		 565 (alkaline)
400 (carbon-zinc)
1200 (lithium)
120 (NiCd)
175 (NiMH)
500 (Lithium polymer rechrg)		 Rectangular

Many (not all) 9 Volt batteries are an array of 6 reversed polarity (nub is negative while can is positive) AAAA batteries welded together internally.
6LR61 (alkaline)
6F22 (carbon-zinc)
6KR61 (NiCd)		 9 (alkaline)
7.2 (NiCd)
7.2 (NiMH)
8.4 (NiCd, 7-cells)
8.4 (NiMH, 7-cells)		 H 48.5mm
L 26.5mm
W 17.5mm
1604A (alkaline)
1604D (carbon-zinc)
1604LC (Lithium)
11604 (NiCd)
7.2H5 (NiMH)		 46.5g (alkaline) both small end
+ male clasp
- female clasp

[edit] More Battery Types

Various current use and historic battery types are not yet added.

Tabby 14:54, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

?? Any reason why this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27A_battery is not linked to here? I was looking for information about this kind of battery, and only found the article with a search on 27A. northislander (talk) 05:58, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] History of Battery Sizes: Comment by a Wikipedia newbie

I'm 75 years old, and I used to buy radio parts in the Cortlandt Street district of New York before it was demolished to make way for the World Trade Center, so I have forgotten things you're not likely to find on the web. The batteries (or DC voltages derived by rectifying AC) for the filament, plate and grid of vacuum tubes used to be designated as A, B and C respectively, without regard for voltage value or battery size or shape. There are thus two different uses of letters, for battery functions and for cell sizes, and I think this section of the article confounds the two. I believe the topic needs to be more thoroughly researched. Marty39 (talk) 01:55, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

You're quite right. I have removed the section as it has little to do with battery sizes. I hope you will keep an eye out for other historical errors.--agr (talk) 22:00, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] sr 44 button battery naming notes are contradictory?

from the notes:

"SR# / LR# / AG# Button Cells: IEC SR series batteries are silver oxide chemistry and provide 1.55 volts, while IEC LR series batteries are alkaline chemistry and provide 1.5 volts. Since there are no 'common' names beyond the AG# designation, many places use these three terms interchangeably, and they will all fit and work. The only difference is that the SR series typically have 50% greater capacity than the LR series. In low-drain devices like watches (without lights) this isn't very important, but in high-drain devices like blinkies, key chain flashlights, or laser pointers the LR type is preferred."

I think there's a typo and it should read:

SR# / LR# / AG# Button Cells: IEC SR series batteries are silver oxide chemistry and provide 1.55 volts, while IEC LR series batteries are alkaline chemistry and provide 1.5 volts. Since there are no 'common' names beyond the AG# designation, many places use these three terms interchangeably, and they will all fit and work. The only difference is that the SR series typically have 50% greater capacity than the LR series. In low-drain devices like watches (without lights) this isn't very important, but in high-drain devices like blinkies, key chain flashlights, or laser pointers the SR type is preferred." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.254.124.253 (talk) 13:51, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] another one

Heres another one you guys have missed. Makita 24v cordless drills have a powerpack consisting of 20 cells (so they must be 1.2 V ie 2 in serial making 2.4v x 10 = 24v). The batteries are Ni-Mh solder tag and as far as i can measure 17.6 mm diameter and 63.6 mm long.

82.21.206.85 (talk) 21:23, 4 May 2008 (UTC)