Talk:List of association football stadiums by capacity
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Have just started page today, obviously a work in progress at the moment. Please feel free to add to list. If possible capacity figure should be taken from official club or stadium website. If there isnt an official site accurate and up to date figures can be found at fussballtempel.net Willy turner 16:38, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
I have now deleated the section at the top of the page List of football (soccer) stadiums by country, which covered stadiums with over 80,000 capacity. That information has been updated and is now on this page. Willy turner 05:10, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
I have been including all stadiums at which football (soccer) is normally played at least once every year. Hence the inclusion of Melbourne Cricket Ground, Giants Stadium etc. If anyone feels this is wrong please leave your thoughts here. Willy turner 02:11, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- I would say for this article, we should only include soccer-specific stadiums otherwise I can see the list getting unwieldy as well as too ambiguous to interpret which stadiums to include. // Laughing Man 04:32, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
I understand what youre saying, but the topic of what is or isnt a football stadium is ambigious. Theres a grey area because some stadiums only rarely have football played at them, and are much better known for having a different sport played there. But they can still reasonably be described as football grounds, because football is played there. There could always be an argument about what to include. I feel including all stadiums that are normally used for football by a club or national team at least once a year is the best criteria. I have removed Croke Park from the list because it is not normally used for football at least once a year. It is being used by the Irish footballl team only temporarily Willy turner 01:37, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Croke Park should not be included on this page. The stadium has been in use since 1884 & has never staged a soccer match to date. Under exceptional circumstances, soccer will temporarily be played at Croke Park while Landsdowne Rd is being redeveloped. This arrangement is strictly temporary. With these facts in mind, how anyone can consider Croke Park to be a soccer stadium is beyond me. Consequently, I shall (hopefully permenantly) remove from it from this page.
- I agree. Elysium 73 23:02, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
- You could add Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh, UK to this is it / isn't it a football stadium discussion. It is primarily a rugby union ground, but has recently hosted European football for Hearts football club, but only until that club's own ground is up to UEFA standards. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 146.176.163.106 (talk) 12:59, 13 March 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Why only football(soccer)?
How about renaming this article to "List of sports stadiums by capacity" and removeing the "football(soccer)" requirement? Virtually all stadiums outside of the the US are designed to allow football(soccer) to be played.
Is the North Korean stadium a true football(soccer) stadium, or simply a venue where footbal(soccer) is played?
By the way, the FIFA Women's World Cup was played at the Rose Bowl with 90,185 in attendance. user:mnw2000 17:39, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- I wouldn't have a problem with making this list available to all stadiums. I would however suggest raising the capacity requirement to 50,000 since a lot more stadiums would be added. As for adding the Rose Bowl to the list, I would have no problem with it. It has also hosted the final for 1994 WC. Patken4 19:25, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] How about defining a sports venue by what sport it was DESIGNED FOR?
That way we could have articles such as:
- List of football(soccer) specific sports venues. (Red Bull Park in US would apply, Giants Stadium would not.)
- List of football(American style) specific sport venues. (Giants Stadium would apply, Yankee Stadium would not.)
- List of baseball specific sport venue. (This is the easiest to determine.)
- List of indoor arenas designed for basketball or ice hockey
Sports venues that were designed for both baseball and football could be on both lists.
Excuse my US examples, but this type of listing would be easier to determine (and wouldn't change) than the current list that leaves out such significant sports venues like the Rose Bowl or Michigan Stadium but includes venues whose use for sports is limited.
user:mnw2000 17:55, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- I think Giants Stadium should stay on the list until Red Bull moves to their own stadium in 2008. I would also add Arrowhead Stadium since the Wizards still call it home (until 2008, anyway). My criteria is to include all stadiums that either host the national team on a consistent basis (the US doesn't really have one) or that currently hosts a club in the country's top division (which would mean Qwest Field should be taken out). I would also add special cases where the stadium hosted a WC final (only the Rose Bowl would need to be added) or are otherwise famous stadiums for soccer (Elland Road comes to mind). In your case, I wouldn't include Michigan Stadium in this list since it doesn't currently host a top tier club nor does it host the national team. If it is changed to all sports, then obviously it will be included. Patken4 19:25, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Inclusion of Croke Park, et al
It seems there has been a lot of disagreement over the inclusion of Croke Park. Croke Park, while not a football/soccer stadium, does currently, albeit temporarily, host the Rep. of Ireland national team. To me, Croke Park should be included because of this fact. In 2009, when the agreement to host non-GAA events at the stadium retires, it can be taken off the list.
Instead of discussing the specifics of Croke Park (and other stadiums such as Murrayfield and Qwest Field that this criteria could apply to), lets come to some consensus as to exactly what stadiums should be included. Here are my proposed criteria:
- 1. Currently hosts a club at the highest level in that country, even if they are only for certain "high attendence matches".
- 2. Currently hosts a majority of the national teams matches, even if only temporarily.
- 3. Failing criteria 1 and 2, is otherwise a stadium famous for primarily hosting football matches.
Given those criteria, Croke Park should be included because of criteria 2. Murrayfield would also be included because of criteria 1. Qwest Field would fail all three because the US does not have a national stadium that a majority of matches are played at and the Seattle Sounders don't play in the highest level.
Please respond if you argee or don't agree with the proposed criteria. Patken4 22:26, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
