Talk:List of amateur radio organizations

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[edit] Organization

Under the US, I've added a list of the states so that the clubs can be alphabetically listed under their state. This also eleiminates the need for a lot of repetitive text saying "this is an amateur radio club in transyvlanaia", etc. GCW50 15:16, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge

After much thought, this is article isn't such a good idea. It's just a list and as such, the wikipedia would be better served by individual articles about clubs all in a category. The list here gets hard to manage instantly upon anyone touches and is ripe for abuse. Merging this article with the category would solve all these problems at once. Anonym1ty 18:21, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

No, no it's a brilliant idea (check who created the article). Why? Because it keeps it all out of the main Amateur radio article! Remember what that article looked like a few months back prior to the recent serious cleanup? All kinds of unrelated crap. There is, as noted, an category. Fine for clubs with articles but it doesn't solve the apparent need of everyone who's ever been in a club to add their (external) link to something. This article serves that need without cluttering up something important. Brilliant, IMHO.  :-) --N5UWY/9 - plaws 20:02, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Removed Merge Anonym1ty 17:15, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Make articles for your club!

Rather than fill this page up with a lot of outside links, why not make an article about your Amateur radio club or organization, or expand its existing article? Not only can it still be listed here, but also in Category:Amateur radio organizaion.

[edit] See also

notes below for info on using a template. Anonym1ty 17:47, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

  • Oh my, this article needs some cleaning! Andrewjuren 00:03, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
  • I've sorted everything in an (alphabetically ordered) list by country. If there is a large increase of clubs in the US, then that section should perhaps be split by state. Andrewjuren 00:50, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wiki Articles

Perhaps it would be better to link to wikipedia articles on these clubs rather than outside links. I know that if we did this now, there'd be a lot of redlinks. Anyone else have any thoughs on this? Anonym1ty 15:44, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

It would only be worthwhile if we could write stubs for most clubs. Sounds like a lot of work, but in theory it should be done. Andrewjuren 23:08, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
Well if it should be done... might just as well start it... a little at a time. Well I suppose we can only hope people would read the talk page. How does wikipedia deal with notes only visible in the source but not in the article text... could we ask people to make the stubs as they add entries, or is it really only good form to put it here in the talk page? Anonym1ty 16:59, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
Technically speaking, this list is already in bad form for an article. Ideally, there should be an introductory paragraph. Alternatively, we could change this Article into a Category, which would force editors to create new stubs instead of just external links. Additionally, if we create a template stub, it may be very easy to do this job quickly. I'll get started on the template stub and post a link to it here once I'm done. Andrewjuren 19:44, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
Well, I guess someone has beat me to the idea. See: Category:Amateur radio organizaion . Nonetheless, the list provides, in my opinion, a significantly more organized approach to accessing information about organizations by geographic location.Andrewjuren 19:47, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
Okay, so I've made a stub Template:Amateur radio organization stub (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) which can be used as follows...
  1. Search for an article to see if it exists.
  2. If not, create a new article with an appropraite name.
  3. In the blank article, type {{Amateur radio organization stub|Name of organization|external link}}
That should do it, tada, instant new stub article! Of course, the template could use some work, and that should be done as soon as possible. To see an example of this template in use, see UBC Amateur Radio Society. Andrewjuren 20:55, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
I fixed all of the American clubs now, everyone of them points to an article. They are stubs now, however I did include some info beyond just the template. You should put even the littlest blurb with each of them to avoid having them just wiped out by editors not making sense of what's going on. I request that if you know something about any of the US clubs that you expand that club's article. Also the other club and organizations around the world will need similar attention. Anonym1ty 21:49, 6 February 2006 (UTC)


[edit] ARES and the ARRL

I was wondering, since ARES is part of ARRL, should it really be listed as a separate club? Rjairam 18:38, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

I think yes. This is a list of amateur radio organizations, and to my knowledge, ARES and ARRL are not equivalent, so they should be considered seperately. Andrewjuren(talk) 01:38, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
But ARES is an arm of ARRL, not an entirely separate organization. Sometimes it may act as a separate organization, and membership is not limited to ARRL members, however, it is tightly intertwined within the ARRL structure. In fact, anyone holding office in ARES has to be an ARRL member. Perhaps it would be better if ARES were placed under ARRL as a sub-organization of ARRL? As it is now, no one would know that ARES and ARRL are related, unless they go to the article itself.Ryan 13:29, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Great Britain - South Lancashire Amateur Radio Club

The link http://www.slarc.org.uk/ goes to somewhere totally unassociated. But I agree, this page is rather a mess. Dsergeant 09:55, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Time to reformat the list

As per the qualification on the keep decision for the recent AfD vote, I'm starting to convert over the list to an article list (mostly redlinks) with external links as a note afterward. My time is going to be limited for the next couple of weeks so anyone else with time is welcome (make that encouraged) to lend a hand. Feel free to adjust the format if you think you have something better. --StuffOfInterest 02:05, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

My interpretation of the qualified keep decision is that the external links (to each clubs website) are only permitted to ensure notability. I think it would be better if the link were shown as a single number, such as [1] rather than with the word "website", as in website. Andrewjuren(talk) 04:37, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
It makes little difference, unless you are a older person, as (generally) radio operators tend to be. I just feel website looks much more esthetically pleasing than leaving it to the default numbering. Exit2DOS2000•T•C• 05:49, 28 October 2007 (UTC)