Talk:List of alleged collaborators

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[edit] Original research

This is a very strange list.

Firstly it provides a list of criminals (or alleged criminals) and do not provide a single reference. It can be easily seen as a slander or libel.

Secondly the criterion behind the list are unclear. E.g. people sentenced in the Soviet Union as Nazi collaborators might be seen as heroes in the post-Soviet countries and the heroes of the Soviet time seen as Soviet collaborators.

Thirdly the list is absolutely incomplete. In the Soviet Union alone hundreds of thousands were sentenced as Nazi collaborators. Some were sentenced on false allegations, some saw Nazis as somehow lesser evil than Soviets, some were indeed quite nasty people. The same is obviously true in reverse. Many organizations or people were never officially sentenced. It is a mess...

I would wait a few days to see if the problem is sold and otherwise will send it for deletion Alex Bakharev 06:21, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Quite on the contrary

This list was moved recently from the Collaborationism article. It should stay here where it is now, and the single entries be discussed and added to or withdrawn if proved controversial. The list was built gradually by numerous members with some (more or less, admittedly) knowledge of the matter in their respective countries. Many of the names are documented and appear in the respective localized versions of Wikipedia. While I follow some of your arguments with regard to how things have to be defined, you have to admit that (1) such a list will never be complete and fool-proof, even after 200 years; and (2) it's not because you delete a record (in this case in Wikipedia) that the facts disappear. Michel 08:42, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Well at the very least we cannot put any entry into the list without providing references (and also some information who accused someone into been a collaborator. On one extremities we would have say Little Green Football accusing say Chomsky in collaborating with the jihadist enemies on another we would have say Nuremberg process decision. Lets have a week to provide references, the rest of the entries should be deleted Alex Bakharev 09:38, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

- It is a delusion to believe that in a week's time all the people who have provided entries to this list will gather and do what you are requesting here. Rather than your using admin power to delete the article's contents (easy done, takes two seconds), I think that you should do the work to check every single entry against their Wikipedia entries in the respective languages, and then suggest for deletion those entries which you do not deem suitable. There's hardly any point in participating to the collective effort called Wikipedia if any self-proclaimed authority can dump what they don't see fit into the dungeons of memory. Oth., while I consider myself to be rather informed politically, I have not a clue of what you are trying to convey with some Little Green Football, Chomsky, jihadists, Nuremberg - sounds slightly incoherent to me Michel 18:37, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jews

How about collaborating Jews? There were some, I'm sure. Is it a taboo? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.242.226.91 (talk) 09:08, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure about the nature of your question. I hope it's not anti-Semitic. The simple answer is yes, there were Jewish collaborators. Read this, for example:
A Jew Who Beat Jews in a Nazi Camp Is Stripped of His Citizenship
Otherwise, the role of the so-called Judenrats, for example Mordechai Chaim Rumkowski, remains highly controversial. I would, however, be extremely wary of labelling them simply as 'collaborators' from the comfort of your armchair in 2007. AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 09:43, 12 December 2007 (UTC)