Talk:List of all-female bands
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[edit] Just a thought
Wouldn't it make more sense to name the band, then their nationality and genre of music? Maybe their years of activity as well. Naming all of the members seems kind of pointless. Your thoughts? My proposed format would go like this: [The 5.6.7.8's] - Japanese Rock-and-Roll band (1993-?) I'd say that's more important than knowing the names of the members.
[edit] Older talk
Hello fellow editors. I am here to argue for Morgenstern, a band I seem to have trouble getting to stick on this list. If you read the article I have written for Morgenstern, and visit her website (http://www.ant-zen.com/morgenstern) it is very clear that Morgenstern is all female: that is, in the sense that this project is comprised of one person, who happens to be a woman. I had originally debated adding her to this list, simply because I thought that maybe I should not make a big deal about a band being "all female", because that is certainly not her only quality. But I added her here because I thought there may be people interested in women's impact in the noise music genre. The one thing I could see as being a point of argument is that Morgenstern (like many industrial, noise, techno bands) is not a band in the traditional sense, but consists of one person: Andrea Boerner. But this phenomenon of the "one person band" seems like a discussion for a different article. However, having a "one person band" creates the need for on-stage assistance, from which Andrea has enlisted the help of men...but certainly none of these people would consider themselves members of Morgenstern. The only member of Morgenstern is Andrea Boerner. (PS - If anyone would like, I can email her for clarifications :) Please help me, and I will address any responses below. Iluvchineselit 07:45, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
- The problem is a solo act isnt a band. A band consists of two or more musicians. If Morgenstern really is a solo act it should go on a list for solo musicians. HelenWatt 05:02, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
- P.S. User:Heidimo has already pointed out below under All-women bands only that individual female artists shouldnt be included. HelenWatt 05:05, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
- Okay, that is fine! As long as the problem is with the definition of "band", and not with whether or not it is all female. However, I cannot say that I agree with you on this subject (for instance, most people would consider Nine Inch Nails a band, although it is in fact one person...at least in the early days). Maybe I should create a List of solo artists who record under monikers rather than their own name :) Iluvchineselit 06:27, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
Somebody needs to add riot grrl bands to this list. Thanks! heidimo 21:57, 1 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Though some of these bands had male musicians in them at some time, they have to be all women at some point in their line-up to qualify. The Slits had a female drummer named Palmolive who was eventually replaced by a male drummer. heidimo 00:07, 2 Jan 2004 (UTC)
[edit] All-women bands only
This is a list of all-women bands. Please do not add individual female artists or bands that contain men and have always contained men. I removed everyone who was added but does not qualify, to the best of my knowledge. If you know something I don't, or find an error I made, please correct it. Thanks. heidimo 17:06, 27 May 2004 (UTC)
- Apparently the limits of this list are still unclear. An all-women band has women playing all the music as well as doing the vocals. A girl group is women singing with male back-up musicians. Any questions? heidimo 18:15, 27 May 2004 (UTC)
I would just like to say that, to the best of my knowledge, the Distillers have never been an All-woman band. In fact Im pretty sure that the only women to ever be in that band is Brody Armstrong and Kim Chi. I accept that Brody writes the songs, plays guitar and sings and I personally think that they are one of the best punk rock bands out their at the moment... but they just dont qualify as an all-woman band. Im sure there are a few other examples of this on the list.Motown Junkie 11:41, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Lacuna coil definatly isn't an all-woman band either. Should be removed
Solas is not an all-woman band. I have removed them. Ogg 08:47, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Removed Hole, t.A.T.u and Spice Girls. Timo Honkasalo 14:10, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I removed Bikini Kill who had a male guitar player (billy Boredom) and Huggy Bear who was half male. I know that they are both main Riot Grrrl bands but. . . Added Sirens, Broadzilla, Scissor Girls, Tracy + the Plastics and The Need. I didn't know if I should add more electronic type stuff like Chicks on Speed and Capricorn so I'll let someone else decide geeblegee
Removed Bikini Kill again as well as Hole and The Gossip both of which have male members. geeblegee 5 March 2005
Added Scissor Girls, Bride of No No (later Azita Youseffi post-No No project), added Dot Dot Dot, the Modettes, Metalux, Super Junky Monkey (old Japanese hardcore funk group, Mechanical Servants, and 16 Bitch Pile-Up, a noise enclave from San Francisco via Ohio. Deleted Destiny's Child. Should be specified that this listing pertains specifically to Rock groups, it seems. Are we sticking with 2 or more members comprise a band?
[edit] Removed
The following bands/musicians have been removed from the list:
- 1/2 Mad Poet - a trio (according to their website a man plays the drums - Rich Lippman).
- The Abuse - a band fronted by a female singer but all the other musicians are male.
- All Saints - move dto list of girl groups.
- Amazombies - a band fronted by a female singer but all the other musicians are male.
- Angry Amputees - band has two men - the amputee (John Dalton on bass guitar) and Gonz on guitar
- Anti-Product - a band fronted by a female singer but all the other musicians are male.
- Bound & Gagged - a band fronted by a female singer but all the other musicians are male.
- Bree Sharp - moved to list of female singers
- Buffalo Daughter - a trio (according to Japanese music press turntablist/DJ (Moog Yamamoto) is male).
- The Casual Dots - a trio (drummer is male (Steve Dore)).
- The Chelsea - drummer is male (Sam Maloney).
- Comet Gain - band has three men - David Charlie Feck (guitar), Jon Slade (guitar), Woodie Taylor (drums).
- Crisis - a band fronted by a female singer but all the other musicians are male.
- Daisy Chainsaw - a band fronted by a female singer but all the other musicians are male.
- Damsel In This Dress - a band fronted by a female singer but all the other musicians are male.
- Defenestration - a band fronted by a female singer but all the other musicians are male.
- Diva Destruction - band has two men - Benn Ra (guitar) and Jimmy Cleveland (drums)
- Double Zero - could not confirm but appears to be a mixed punk band.
- Dream - moved to list of girl groups
- Dover - band has two men - Alvaro Diez (bass) and Jesus Atunez (drums).
- Elastica - drummer is male (Justin Welch).
- Element 101 - a band fronted by a female singer but all the other musicians are male.
- Enda - band has two men - Joey Clark (bass) and Dan Aquino (drums)
- Epoxies - a band fronted by a female singer but all the other musicians are male.
- The Erasers - band had two men - David (piano) and a guitarist
- Excuse 17 - a trio (drummer is male (CJ Phillips)).
- Girls On Top - guitarist is male (Neil Downe).
- Go Sailor - a trio (bass guitarist is male (Paul Curran)).
- The Goops - a band fronted by a female singer but all the other musicians are male.
- Halfcocked - band has two men
- KaitO and Kaito UK - guitarist is male (Dave Lake)
- Kleenexgirlwonder - a music project by Graham Smith
- Longstocking - bass player is male (David Gomez).
- Luckie Strike - band has two men - Kevin Sur (guitar) and Andre Gallardo (bass).
- Marine Research - band has three men - John Stanley (drums), Rob Pursey (bass), and Peter Momtchiloff (guitar).
- Mary Prankster - moved to list of female singers.
- Mates of State - duo (one half is Jason Hammel).
- Miranda July - moved to list of female singers.
- Miss Kittin - moved to list of female singers.
- Mpress - moved to list of girl groups.
- The Muffs - band has had two male drummers - Criss Crass and Roy McDonald.
- Naked Aggression - a band fronted by a female singer but all the other musicians are male.
- Northern State - moved to list of girl groups.
- NY Rel-X - band has two men - Jon (guitars) and Scot (drums).
- Nina Hagen - moved to list of female singers.
- The Original Sinners - band has three men - Sam Soto (guitar), Jason Edge (guitar) and Mat Young (drums)
- Paige - moved to list of female singers.
- PreLuders - moved to list of girl groups.
- Pump Girls - moved to list of girl groups.
- Pylon - a band fronted by a female singer but all the other musicians are male.
- P.Y.T. - moved to list of girl groups.
- Plasmatics - a band fronted by a female singer but all the other musicians are male.
- The Quails - a trio (bass guitarist is male (Seth Lorinczi)).
- The Ravonettes - duo (one half is Sune Wagner).
- Rest In Peace - appears to be a mixed band.
- The Rondelles - a trio (drummer is male (Oakley Munsen)).
- Saraya - a band fronted by a female singer but all the other musicians are male.
- Sarge - a trio (drummer is male (Russ Horvath)).
- Scout Niblet - moved to list of female singers.
- The Sick Lipstick - a band fronted by a female singer but all the other musicians are male.
- Snake River Conspiracy - a band fronted by a female singer but all the other musicians are male.
- Soluna - moved to list of girl groups.
- theSTART - a band fronted by a female singer but all the other musicians are male.
- Stretch Princess - a trio (drummer is male (Dave Magee)).
- Sugababes - moved to list of girl groups.
- Sweet Honey in the Rock - moved to list of girl groups.
- Tic Tac Toe - moved to list of girl groups.
- Trinket - drummer is male (Kurt).
- Two Ton Boa - a band fronted by a female singer but all the other musicians are male.
- Ubika - a trio (bass player is male).
- Velocity Girls - a band fronted by a female singer but all the other musicians are male.
- The Voluptuous Horror of Karen Black - appear to be a mixed band (troupe) of performers.
- XRay SpeX - a mixed band.
- The Waitresses - a band fronted by a female singer but all the other musicians are male.
- Whorehouse Of Representatives - a band fronted by a female singer but all the other musicians are male.
That's it for now. Megan1967 12:45, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
[edit] The Waitresses
- The Waitresses - a band fronted by a female singer but all the other musicians are male.
The original line-up of The Waitresses had a female bass player, Tracy Wormworth.
[edit] Corrected Wikilinks
I've corrected the Wikilinks for the following bands as none of them were linking to the relevant articles before;
- Bitch (band) (United States)
- Black Widows (band) (Portugal)
- Brazen (band) (Italy)
- Catspaw (band) (United States)
- Chick Flick (band) (Australia)
- Deuce (US band) (United States)
- Doughnuts (band) (Sweden)
- ESG (band) (United States)
- Farmer's Daughter (band) (Canada)
- Fluffy (band) (United Kingdom)
- Girlz in Black Hats (United States)
- The Hitchcock Blondes (United States)
- Lightning War (band)
- Love Bites (band) (England)
- Marie Celeste (band) (Netherlands)
- Pinkeye (band) (United States)
- Plain Jane (band) (USA)
- Poptarts (band) (United States)
- Sassafrass (band) (United States)
- Swan Island (band) ((United States)
- Twist (band) (United Kingdom)
- Urge (band) (United States)
- UT (band) (United States
- Violator (band) (United States)
- Vixen (band) (United States)
- VS. (US band) (United States)
- Yukon (band) (United States)
- We've Got a Fuzzbox and We're Gonna Use It (United Kingdom)
- Wrecker (band)(United States)
A lot of them have now become red links but that makes more sense than, for example, having the band Poptarts linked to an article about the Kellogg's product. Pufnstuf 23:49, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Contents of list
Per the guideline for stand-alone lists I've removed all the red links from this article. I'd also propose that the inclusion paragraph be tightened to say that only notable all-women bands be included. - brenneman {L} 08:10, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- Whatever the guideline may say, removing items just because they're redlinked seems inappropriate. I have reverted and shall work on pruning this list in a more appropriate, wikipedian manner, by performing some research. --Tony Sidaway 16:02, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
- Per Wikipedia:Verifiability "Any unsourced material may be challenged and removed" and Wikipedia:Lists (stand-alone lists) "Ideally each entry on the list should have a Wikipedia article." I'll re-remove all red links, as they are all accessible in the history of this page. --brenneman 11:49, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
- Okay, but I'm sure that you recognise that routine blanket removal like this is extremely counter-productive. I'll add back individual items that are verifiable. --Tony Sidaway 12:23, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
- I find edits that remove unsourced material to be productive ones. --brenneman 12:27, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
- I'm not arguing that we shouldn't remove unsourced statements. However the manner and bulk of the removal can have an adverse impact (for instance your blanket pruning of literary magazines a couple of months ago, which resulted in the removal of one or two historically important magazines along with the rest).
- And in your latest edits to this page, in researching only as far as the A's, I've found that you removed a reference to one band that was intervewed by Greil Marcus and another that had a review in the New York Times. Arguably neither merits an article (though one of them does have one, and this was easily found). But they're certainly verifiable. Thus you're performing short-term damage. Wouldn't it be better if you had performed a small amount research yourself instead of blindly removing entries?
- I'd suggest that, if you do perform removals of large numbers of list entries, you might consider recording them on the talk page. While editors can recover the information you have deleted by reference to the history, this is fiddly. --Tony Sidaway 13:22, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for that suggestion, but I'm pretty happy with the method that I've got. As to the two items you've found links to, I'm not seeing any evidence that these are notable/important "all-women bands" and thus they should probably be removed as well until such a time as they have articles. - brenneman {L} 12:11, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
To keep your motors running, I have added Isis as a blue link and am very interested to read the unavoidable discussion.--84.56.94.179 06:54, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Just a Thought (2)
I think that it would be good if this page indicates which genre each group belongs to.
[edit] "Just a thought"'
I agree with you. Perhaps entries should look like this-
The Catholic Girls"
Rock
1976 - 1983
Gail Petersen - Lead Vocals/Rhythm Guitar
Roxy Andersen - Lead Guitar/Backing Vocals
Doreen Holmes - Drums/Percussion
Discography: "The Catholics Girls" MCA Records, 1982
Singles: "Boys Can Cry"
I've watched this list for a while and there are a lot of current bands who are just amatuers and have no real history or discography. More established, professional and well-known bands have been deleted.
Jaguar 18:57, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Should those entering new names...
... be directed here? A number (e.g., Bikini Kill) keep getting added over and over and over and over and over again... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Psinu (talk • contribs) 07:44, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, Girls Aloud, the Spice Girls, and the Pipettes, just to take a few of the most obvious examples, are not all girl bands.--Tombomp (talk) 18:57, 9 December 2007 (UTC)