Talk:List of Wii games

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[edit] Discussion Archived, Various Updates

I took the liberty to archive the previous discussion into the archives; if any part was still under discussion, please feel free to move it from the archive to the Talk Page.

In the hopes of increasing the verifiability of this list, and the general accuracy of it as well, I'm proposing that we use only the official Nintendo websites for each of the regions as our primary sources (as opposed to IGN's list, which is the current method). Any titles that do not appear on these lists will require a citation. I know it'll take some effort to go through the list and comb through everything, but I think it'll really help. Let me know what you guys think of the idea; any input is much appreciated!

Depending on the feedback, I'll be adjusting the FAQs a bit as well, which is why they're not here at the moment. Thanks for everyone's contributions, they're truly appreciated! -Digiwrld1 (talk) 08:24, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Hm, IGN seems to be a decent job of updating their lists, so I suppose we can use a combination of IGN and the Nintendo lists.
I've gone through the Japanese release dates and checked them with Nintendo.co.jp's list, and was not able to find the following games on the list(that have supposedly been released): JAWA: The Mammoth and the Mysterious Stone, Shiren the Wanderer 3, The World of Golden Eggs: Nori Nori Rhythm-kei Nissan Note Original Version, and Bust-a-Move Bash. Every other game is listed on the list, and I double checked to ensure I hadn't missed it, so if anyone knows whats up that'd be great.
If anyone can help comb through the European and North American releases to ensure that the dates are correct, and add/remove references as needed (ref no longer needed if on the list at Nintendo, and/or IGN), it would be much appreciated. -Digiwrld1 (talk) 02:34, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
There's no list of upcoming games on Nintendo of America's website. enbob89 (talk) 19:52, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


Reference for Crash Dummy Vs. The Evil D-Troit (and Starblaze: Ultimate Battle). http://www.thewiire.com/news/594/1/Twelve_Interactive_Becomes_Official_Wii_Developer —Preceding unsigned comment added by Withgiven2009 (talk • contribs) 13:31, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Request: Share Sorting Code With Other Lists?

Hi. I hate to possibly bring up an issue that has already been brought up, but could someone who knows the code to this list take a look at Chronology_of_PlayStation_2_games and List_of_PlayStation_2_games? Those two pages could easily be merged and simplified if someone could do for them what has been done so nicely for the Wii. Thanks. - Keithustus (talk) 02:10, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

This is just a standard wikipedia sortable list. The biggest technical hurdle was settling on a standard format for entering data into each column so that it would all sort the same. As for easily merged, well this list was re-done from scratch. As one of the people who did it I can vouch that it was a lot of typing, even though at the time there were far fewer games. If you want to update a mature list like the Playstation 2 one I'd suggest bringing it up on that discussion forum and enlist the help or at least agreement of any maintainers over there. For the technical side, just copy and paste the code from the start of this list to the end of the first game, change the game information and copy/paste from there.Telvin 3d (talk) 15:40, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Release dates.

I have a dumb question? What are the release dates for Australian games for the Wii? If you don't have an answer to it then how should I find out? Please let me know. Johnnyauau2000 (talk) 14:39, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

GameFAQs is a good source, but like I've said many times, THIS is why release dates shouldn't be included in the list. This is almost as bad as when editors were basically ignoring the existence of Europe for Heaven's sake. They've taken notice of Europe, but they still act like South Africa and Australia are European for some crazy reason - that, or irrelevant. - A Link to the Past (talk) 00:21, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
They're useful to have, if the size of the article is an issue you should consider splitting it into two or more articles. --AeronPrometheus (talk) 02:41, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Just removing the dates was a stupid thing to do. Now there's just less information available on Wikipedia. If we're going to remove the dates from this list, why not add a chronological listing, which lists games by region including my own Australia, South Africa, etc? In the meantime, the main list can have the "first-released" date, listing just the date that the game was first released to a region (as in, if Japan got the game first, it's listed with the Japanese release date), as well as a "regions-available" listing. Aielyn (talk) 04:47, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
NO gameFAQS is not a source, nice try but no maybe you should do your reading again LINK huh.--Lbrun12415 03:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
plus gamefaqs is all original research.--Lbrun12415 03:37, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Actually I'd argue that GameFAQs is fairly reliable since the release data is shared between it and Gamespot, Gamespot itself being a decent enough source. Chan Yin Keen | Talk 04:50, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Yes tht is ture but since GAmefaqs is Like wiki every one can add something it is not a relieable source. --Lbrun12415 04:52, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Data submission on GameFAQs appears to go through review before actually being posted, but I could be wrong. In any case, wouldn't be too fussed as Gamespot has release data as well, on most occasions. Chan Yin Keen | Talk 05:03, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Precisely. GameFAQs has no ability to let anyone just add any content they wish. And Lbrun, don't vandalize Wikipedia by editing other peoples' posts. - A Link to the Past (talk) 05:05, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Not really I added something about Iron man the video game that was false but they added it any way proving that GAMEFAQS have no idea what they are doing.--Lbrun12415 05:08, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Fair enough, begs the question of why you added false information in the first place, but I'm really uninterested. GameFAQs really isn't the only place to pick up release date information anyway. Chan Yin Keen | Talk 05:18, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Should released and unreleased titles be separated into two different lists?

Not just for this list but should this be a standard for any list of games for a platform with still frequent releases? It tends to be the case that unreleased titles have far less reliable information available for them so this makes the list overall less reliable. A seperate list would also make it easier to seperate speculation from the confirmed of unreleased games. If there isn't enough reliable information about to make an article for a game there should be at least a link to a reliable source confirming the developer is planning on making the game or has started work on it. -Hybrid360 (talk) 16:50, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I think this is a great idea as an interim solution. The lists should be divided into released or confirmed with specific release dates, and unconfirmed unreleased. For example, the title should have a confirmed specific date like July 30, 2008 in at least one region. July 2008, Q3 2008, TBA, and such doesn't cut it. This would reduce the size of the list about in half. As the Wii matures and release dates become less important, a different solution such as the GameCube list can be used. Not only would this cut the size, but would remove speculation to another list, remain sortable, reduce confusion and everyone is happy.Ether7 (talk) 19:45, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Split proposal

Nothing fancy, just start dividing the alphabet into more manageable chunks. Perhaps List of Wii games 0-M and List of Wii games N-Z. --AeronPrometheus (talk) 10:27, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Overall, the Wii games list isn't that big. At this time, it shouldn't be split. If I checked right: only a few platforms have been split into several lists: Amiga and Commodore 64. Take a look at List of PlayStation 2 games, it's over double the size of the Wii list, and I see no issues with size there. One thing the Wii list should have: section breaks for each letter, that would help editing. Here's an example of what I mean: List of Game Boy Advance games. RobJ1981 (talk) 21:05, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, but that would make the sortable table utterly pointless. --Conti|✉ 21:25, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
The proposal is in response to A Link to the Past's removal of release dates citing the size of the article. And as far as the sheer size of the article goes he's right. Even on a Pentium 4 this article takes a while to fully load, for the sake of people running slower machines than I it really needs it. If the List of PlayStation 2 games is twice as big then that article too needs to be split.
Also the table of contents really doesn't go well with a sortable table. If you sort first then try to use the table you're sent to the wrong place in the list due to the table's links being hard-linked to specific titles. --AeronPrometheus (talk) 23:17, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
I've always thought it should be split in three; one page for each region. Each page would have two less release date columns and also fewer games since not every game is released in every region. That would allow for Australian release dates too, as so many have requested. --enbob89 (talk) 23:34, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
I disagree with region lists as well. Overall, they would be very redundant for the most part. Just about every platform list isn't split into region lists (the only exception is Virtual Console from what I can see). If it's not broken, don't fix it. RobJ1981 (talk) 05:17, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
The advantage of region lists is that everything remains completely sortable. This functionality is what makes this page so useful and splitting the page any other way would ruin it. I'm open to any split that keeps all of the current functionality. --enbob89 (talk) 06:41, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
The release dates should stay its useable information. I think we should move it from # - N and O - Z. I also Undid what Link to the past did because it was not right what he did by taking out important information. We should just make two pages. # - N and O - Z.--Lbrun12415 03:25, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
I believ that this should be removed

This is a sortable list of released and upcoming Wii games, referred to by their English titles. The Wii first launched in the Americas on November 19, 2006 with 23 titles, including Wii Sports. Release dates for individual countries may vary from the regional dates listed below; a title is listed as 'Unreleased' if it will not be sold in that region. This list does not include games released on Nintendo's Virtual Console or WiiWare services. For lists of those games, please see List of Virtual Console games and List of WiiWare games. For additional information on the Wii's release, including the list of launch titles and the regions they were released in, see Wii launch. --Lbrun12415 03:47, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Are you citing Featured Lists? No? Then what does that matter? Yeah, of course, you don't cite List of Nintendo 64 games. Which acknowledges Japan, ALL PAL regions, and North America. Yeah, I guess being a Featured List isn't enough - the only thing we should base this list on are Start articles without any structure or any attempt to feature them! - A Link to the Past (talk) 04:47, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
I'd like the 0-9, A,B,C e.t.c sections of the page as there easier to edit and search through.Simpsonsfuturama (talk) 14:09, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
But then the list would not be sortable. --enbob89 (talk) 18:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
They do it on DS Games.Simpsonsfuturama (talk) 19:55, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Monster Trux Offroad USA release date

I am having a hard time finding information on Monster Trux Offroad. I can't confidently nail down the USA release date.
It seems to be VERY poorly distributed, and is another shovelware DDI game so no one cares.
Maker DDI doesn't list it in their catalog > http://www.ddi-games.com/catalog
Bold Games, which is the USA publisher doesn't list it on their website > http://www.boldgames.com/games/games.html
IGN doesn't have an entry for it
Gamespot shows dec 31 2007 > http://www.gamespot.com/wii/driving/monstertrucksoffroad/index.html
gamezone shows jan 2 2008 > http://wii.gamezone.com/gamesell/p33727.htm
gamesradar shows jan 2 2008 > http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/monster-trux-offroad/g-20080219113450339009
other stores selling this game > http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&q=monster%20trux%20offroad
Amazon is selling it, but I think their release date (Oct 26 2007) totally conflicts with other sites, could be PAL version? > http://www.amazon.com/Bold-Games-Monster-Trux-Offroad/dp/B00125ON1Y
Gqwu (talk) 05:22, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I had problems with release dates when i was looking at some preorder games i'm about to add.different shops have different dates.My best idea is to look at there official site.Simpsonsfuturama (talk) 14:08, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] To do list

From the to do list:

   * Add Price of each game

Add the number of players and genre for each game

Can't you add players on the page in the game template and prices are ever changing so you can't do that Simpsonsfuturama (talk) 16:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)