Talk:List of Wii games/Archive 7

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Contents 1 Important: Read First 1.1 How-To Guide 1.2 Frequently Asked Questions 2 Titles to Keep an Eye On 3 page/file size 4 Deleting Entries 5 Players/Genre 6 Please add this game 7 Players Column 8 Addition of Columns 9 Games to be added 10 QUESTION 11 References? 12 Nodame Cantabile: Dream Orchestra not showing up 13 Mind Games title directs to John Lennon Album 14 australia 15 Can we add a 'category' column? 16 Sam & Max 17 Region order 18 Missing Wii game 19 Critical Ratings Column? 20 Combing Through the List 21 Animal Crossing Wii... 22 Mega-man Wii 23 Article size concern 24 Can't sort North America column anymore 25 Controller compatible.

[edit] Important: Read First

[edit] How-To Guide

Updating this list may seem to be complicated, but it is rather simple. The following instructions are very step by step and thus appears longer.

Step 1: A Developer/Publisher (ex. Konami) Announces they are Making a Wii Game
List the name of the Developer/Pubisher and Whatever Known Details on the List of Untitled Wii Projects. Please follow the steps in the how-to guide found on that Talk Page.

Step 2: The Dev/Pub Announces a Title for the Project

1. Delete the Entry from List of Untitled Wii Projects.
2. Add it to the List of Wii games it in Alphabetical order, as the default sort is by name. Update whatever Details are Known.
3. Be sure a source exists for this game. Check first in the Nintendo of America list, Nintendo of Europe Quarterly Update, or GameSpot list; if it is not listed on these lists, be sure to footnote the article, using ref tags.
4. If it does not yet exist, please create the article, or at least a stub, for this title. Be sure that the source link is within the article.
5. Update the Total Count (found in the introduction) to include this new game.

Step 3: The Dev/Pub Announces a Release Date (ex. October 23, 2007)
Replace {{TBA|2007|Q4}} and change it to <span style="display:none">02007-10-23</span>[[October 23]], [[2007]].

• Note: Beware of Placeholder Dates that many sites use. Often times if it says a game is to be released on June 30 or December 31st, that doesn't mean that it will be out on that day, but rather they don't know the exact release date. Use Google to verify release dates with different sources.

Notes:

• Create a stub/article if the title is redlinked (no article created yet).

• Do not leave any entries blank. This makes sorting less effective. If any piece of information is unknown put TBA in that spot.

• If the developer or publisher is unknown, add <span style="display:none">Zz</span> before TBA.

• Put 'TBA' under a release date if there is a chance that a game will come out for that specific region. Put 'Unreleased' under a release date if there is a good chance that a game will not come out in that region.

• Use the 'span style="display:none"' tag to have games that start with 'The' to sort properly. If you don't know what I am talking about, look at the code for The Godfather Blackhand Edition or The Bigs entries

• Do not add Virtual Console (downloadable) titles to this list. They belong on the Virtual Console list.

• Keep this list current.

[edit] Frequently Asked Questions

1. Must the reference be free and online?

Online sources are preferred as they can be easily accessed for reference. If a game has been confirmed in a magazine, chances are a reliable online source will have the information as well. The reference must be cited if not on the Nintendo of America or GameSpot lists.

2. I heard that X Game is coming to the Wii. Can I add it?

The general inclusion guideline states: The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. This means that we only publish material that is verifiable with reference to reliable, published sources. And more specifically: One of the keys to writing good encyclopedia articles is to understand that they should refer only to facts, assertions, theories, ideas, claims, opinions, and arguments that have already been published by reputable publishers. In other words, as long as you can verify it with reliable sources, you may add it.

3. Define a 'Reliable Source'.

This is a tricky subject, as even the most prominent gaming magazines and sites contain much speculation of upcoming games. Here is a general breakdown of reliable sources:

• Highest Reliability: Press Releases, Developer's/Publisher's Website, Wii.com
• High Reliability: Famitsu, IGN, GameSpot
• Good Reliability: GoNintendo, Joystiq, Kotaku
• Low Reliability: Other Nintendo/Gaming blogs and sites
• No Reliability: Forums

This list, of course, is not conclusive. If a headline starts with the word 'Rumor', do not add it onto this list until the headline reads 'Confirmed'. Please use your best judgment when adding titles to this list.

4. Game Pages vs. Actual Articles

Please link to the actual page announcing the game, not the game page specific to that game. For example, link to IGN, not to IGN. This is due to the fact that sites often create game pages for speculated releases as well as confirmed releases.

5. The Wii can play games all the way back to the NES/Famicom, so I want to add those games to this list.

Older games are for older systems. Just look and the PlayStation series. PlayStation 3 plays PlayStation and PlayStation 2 games, yet none of those are counted as PS3 games. Additionally, the list of Virtual Console games is a separate list and may not be combined.

6. They've announced that they're making a game for the Wii from movie/television show 'X'. How do I properly link the title?

Please put [[X (video game)|X]]. Even if the title is redlinked (no article exists), it shouldn't be linked to the movie article.

7. I've noticed you're missing this game/this date/this detail...

This list is a collaborative effort, and if you feel like you can contribute something, please do in accordance to the guidelines listed above. If you are unsure about something, please browse this talk page and it's archives, and if you're still unsure ask away on this talk page.

FAQ Contributors:

Ceros, CyberSkull✎☠, Damian Yerrick (☎), Digiwrld1, enbob89, Gopherbassist, Jedi6-(need help?), ReyBrujo, Telvin 3d, VederJuda

This FAQ is derived from a series of discussions previously held on this talk page. To view them, please visit Archive 4.

[edit] Titles to Keep an Eye On

Endless Ocean-US release possibly delayed until 2008 Q1
Battalion Wars II-Not seen since LGC 06, last year
Nights: Journey of Dreams-US release possibly delayed until 2008 Q1

Nothing has been confirmed or denied concerning the releases of these games, but this is just a heads up that there seems to be something going on with them. Digiwrld1 01:38, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Also Mercury Meltdown Revolution keeps getting delayed for no reason. Tehw1k1 06:23, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

How about Project H.A.M.M.E.R ?--FrosticeBlade 23:49, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] page/file size

when editing, it states the page is 87 kb long, and to think about cutting it down into smaller pages.

is it worth changing it to a page for 3 letters, ie page abc, page def, page ghi etc, or to a page for each letter??

this list is going to be never ending, so it will need to be dealt with. 194.221.133.211 12:29, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, a lot of the functionality of this list comes from the ability to sort it. Assuming that we are forced to break it up due to size reasons, making separate lists by region would likely work better while still letting people sort by Publisher/Developer/release date. Telvin 3d 14:57, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Maybe to make lists for Q1 2007 games, Q4 2006 games, Q2 2007 games and so on? -- Dvorsky 22:25, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, if the sections were broken out by region, it would drop the size of each list to half the size (in terms of memory) of the current one. After all, two out of six columns would be gone and all the games not being released in that region as well.

However, I think any split should wait until it is needed. Unless the article hits a hard limit in the wiki software, I don't see the need. I have used this list on a number of different computers and connections and there is no performance issue. I think the 87kb warning is in place because for a normal style article, that would represent a lot of paragraphs and likely indicate several natural break points. For something like this, I am not sure that applies.Telvin 3d 06:14, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Reading the article on Wiki page size, I've concluded that not only is the maximum KB a suggestion rather than a rule, but more importantly that it applies to actual articles and not to lists, so we should be fine. If anyone has a different interpretation on the matter, let me know. —digiwrld1/Didn't sign in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.113.187.68 (talk) 08:03, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deleting Entries

What's up, why did you delete Gradius III. It was already confirmed for Europe's release on QJ for September on the the Virtual Console. Zeta26 00:41, 29 September 2007 (UTC).

This list isn't for Virtual Console games. Sorry pal. --enbob89 14:30, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Players/Genre

Someone added a column for #players/genre to the list. I feel that this is better suited within the game articles themselves, so to whomever did so, please remove the columns. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.181.235.92 (talk) 19:38, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

I'd actually support including this because Genre is important in game selection and so is multiplayer capability. --TheSeer (TalkˑContribs) 09:48, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree, I came to this page to search for Wii games of certain genres and found it useless for that purpose right now. --Keelhaul (Talk) 04:02, 21 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.66.36.40 (talk)

I also believe that inlcuding the #of players and genre would be helpful. When comparing games those are some of the very first criteria considered. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.206.200.157 (talk) 04:06, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps you all should click on the game name and see from the game's article whether it supports multiplayer or what genre it is instead of looking at the list? Chan Yin Keen | Talk 09:22, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

That's what I had to do, it took me at least an hour. Really tedious and annoying. A genre column shouldn't take much space anyway. Keelhaul | Talk 03:06, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please add this game

There's a game called Mario Strikers Charged. I don't think I need links to prove that it's a real game. Why's it not on the list? 17th Jan 08

Link's Crossbow Training is also very much a real game - where is it? 17th Jan 08 (same person as before)

Marvel Ultimate Alliance? *shrugs* 17th Jan 08 (me again)

Um Zelda, Twilight Princess? You'd think these would be obvious. Now I'm really doubting this list. --Dragonjimmyy2k (talk) 21:27, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Madden games, Medal of Honor Games. I take it this is not at all a complete list, even if it has some fairly obscure titles. --Dragonjimmyy2k (talk) 22:04, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Theres a game called Sadness for the wii i dont know how to add it but i have all the links that prove its a real game. heres the link http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=t000382 --FrosticeBlade 22:14, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

All Nibris games, including Sadness, are cancelled. The same applies to Crossbeam Studios. Unfortunately for these teams their projects were too ambitious for them and as such they have been removed from the list. Thing is, Wikipedia is always editable, so should any of these games ever appear, we can add them back, but until then keep it out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Digiwrld1 (talk • contribs) 19:12, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Players Column

Love the list but it could really use a column that tells a person how many players can play a particular game at a glance. I’ve looked all over the net for a Wii games list that includes this. Thanks for your time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.89.238.16 (talk) 02:20, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

It's actually a bit harder to list out than it seems. Games like WarioWare: Smooth Moves are listed on the box as saying only one controller is required (which might lead some to believe it's a single player endeavour) when in fact there is a multiplayer component that supports up to 12 people. I'd like that list too, but it'll be a difficult job compiling it. Chan Yin Keen | Talk 09:46, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Addition of Columns

Somebody has added ESRB and Wi-Fi columns-I have reverted this. Not only are they unnecessary, they are breaking the page-the TOC can no longer properly display. Thanks. -Digiwrld1 11:30, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

I think the ESRB would be nice maybe if added with the title crazzycorbe 17:50, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

If we add ESRB, we should also add PEGI and CERO. I think that would be too much. Mushroom (Talk) 23:03, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

true crazzycorbe 17:44, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Games to be added

Anyone care to help me look for games missing from the list? Go to Nintendo's website, Gamefaqs and other sites, then search through the game lists and add relevant titles. Another way to search: go through Category:Wii games and compare it to the list. Note: on Gamefaqs, they list Virtual Console titles too, so double check it's for the Wii before adding it to this list. Let's make the list as complete as it can be. -- RobJ1981 (talk) 18:27, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] QUESTION

can some one please send me a list of Nintendo wii games that are compatible with the classic controller. meaning only nintendo wii games like Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2.--DarkFierceDeityLink 18:39, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] References?

where did the references go? --enbob89 (talk) 19:28, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

I think for the most part references are being put in the article for that game instead of here on the theory that this article should not contain any unique information, merely a subset of the information available for each of the games. Some people seemed to feel that the references were cluttering the page, and while I don't really agree, it seems to work fine the way it is.Telvin 3d (talk) 21:35, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

I was actually talking about how the references weren't showing up before - a problem that has since been solved. --enbob89 (talk) 01:44, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nodame Cantabile: Dream Orchestra not showing up

Why isn't Nodame Cantabile: Dream Orchestra showing up? --enbob89 (talk) 22:07, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mind Games title directs to John Lennon Album

Just happened to click that game when browsing through the titles and saw that it leads to "John Lennon's fourth post-Beatles album. Not sure if this is really what the game is gonna be about or maybe the link should be edited to be the "no article made about this yet type page as '/Mind_Games_game'" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Issmortor (talk • contribs) 01:58, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] australia

where the hell is australia?--Blue-EyesGold Dragon 05:55, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Not listed... obviously. I think the list needs a "regions released" section, as that would make the table neater. I'm noy good at making tables, so perhaps someone else could work on it? See List of Nintendo GameCube games for a good example of the table. RobJ1981 (talk) 08:20, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

that doesnt help even if we do that, australia's dates are diffrent then then in the usa and europe :( we always get left out--Blue-EyesGold Dragon 11:43, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

We created the current format based upon the List of Nintendo GameCube games, as well as the featured list of Nintendo 64 games; in both list you'll note that Australian release dates are not specified, due to the proximity to European releases for the majority of titles. We've had this argument before, and feel free to discuss it amongst yourselves again, but the general consensus was that having sortable tables was incredibly useful, even if it meant limiting the regions listed to the primary three. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.181.235.92 (talk) 19:54, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

we should still have them--Blue-EyesGold Dragon 12:18, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Come on Australia!!! We want a column in the Wii!!! Europe isn't that great and that it has its column, so why doen't Australian dates get mentioned as well!!! Go Aussie Go!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.172.221.66 (talk) 10:57, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Europe (like Japan and North America) have many games exclusive to that region. Oceania, to the best of my knowledge has none. Also, sales in Europe far exceed those in Australia/Oceania. DemonCleanerUK (talk) 08:08, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

That's not entirely true. Australia doesn't get many exclusive titles at all (we do get a few, such as AFL Premiership 2007 for the PS2 - it is likely that an AFL game will appear on the Wii eventually), but the release dates in Australia are often significantly different from those in Europe. Australia/New Zealand deserves to have a column, not because of high sales numbers, or existence of exclusives, but because of our distinctness from Europe. Personally, I think we should split this list into two parts - one part for game details, and one for release dates. The release dates one can include columns for Oceania and perhaps also Korea (or another such region that is getting Wii games), as well as a "notes" section for anything else regarding releases. The game details one can have things like control schemes, numbers of players, online play, etc (as well as developer/publisher). Aielyn (talk) 13:00, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Can we add a 'category' column?

I'd like to see basic categories, such as Action, Adventure, Sports, RPG, Strategy, etc. in the List of Wii Games. Is this possible? Thx, T_D

I don't think so. To my knowledge none of these console lists have it, and the Wii list certainly wont be the first. If you want to know the type of game it is: either read the article or search elsewhere. I believe this has been brought up before (I can't remember if it was for this list or a similar one). The table can't just have many extra sections jammed into it, otherwise it will become cluttered and messy. Even if the game types are shortened, that wont make a big difference. RobJ1981 (talk) 17:22, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sam & Max

In response to the announcement of Sam & Max for Wii in a German press release from JoWooD, Telltale has denied that a game has been confirmed. [1] --enbob89 (talk) 05:54, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Region order

Why is the current region order: Japan, Europe, North America? To me, the most logical order would be in the order the system launched: North America, Japan, Europe. TJ Spyke 11:18, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Even better, alphabetically. -- ReyBrujo (talk) 01:48, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

A lot of thought went into the order of the columns when creating the sortable table format. I realize that while the English Wikipedia is open to users from all over the world, the majority of people would be from the North American region. As such, the two most important pieces of information are the title and the North American release date. To allow quick access to this information, they're positioned on the opposing sides. At the middle is the Japanese release dates, as they allow this list to be comprehensive and allow any English speaking Wikipedians in Japan to see what games have been released there, but the majority of Wii owners in Japan wouldn't look here for that information. -Digiwrld1 (talk) 07:00, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Missing Wii game

You guys are missing Marvel Ultament aliance. Poohman0 (talk) 01:09, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Any one find anything elese —Preceding unsigned comment added by Poohman0 (talk • contribs) 02:10, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Critical Ratings Column?

Would it be a good idea to add a ratings column that lists critics scores for the games from sites like Metacritic.com and Gamerankings.com?

- Devz0r 04:45, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

No. Ratings belong on the individual articles, not a list like this. RobJ1981 (talk) 05:13, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Combing Through the List

First, thanks to everyone who's been working so diligently on this page and ensuring it contains the most up-to-date and comprehensive information.

A modest proposal: In the references section, let's have it so that only Nintendo.com, Nintendo.co.uk, or Nintendo.co.jp are our primary references. Then, any title that is not listed on one of these three sites must have a reference linking to the PR or similar reference. I realize that GameFly has a near perfect record of predicting the next Wii game, but it doesn't hold the same weight in terms of a confirmation.

The current list is already the most comprehensive Wii list anywhere, but now I'd like to focus on it being the most verifiable. I'll be working on the Japanese titles and dates via Nintendo.co.jp, as that's likely the toughest due to translation issues. If anyone else would like to assist with this, I appreciate any help, but please make a note of which site you're checking so there's no double work going on.

Thanks, -Digiwrld1 (talk) 23:57, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Is there a list of all the released and upcoming Wii games on the Nintendo of America site? --enbob89 (talk) 01:49, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, there is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.181.233.185 (talk) 17:35, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Animal Crossing Wii...

...is not coming out on June 27 in Europe, so I'll change it back to TBA —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.121.102.73 (talk) 00:56, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mega-man Wii

http://consoleupdates.com/2007/11/19/mega-man-for-the-wii/

I found this and found other saying that there will be a megaman game for the wii. I wanted to share it with you.--Lbrun12415 22:44, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Article size concern

This article is getting awfully big. We should make separate articles for each major region for Europe, Australia, & Japan. In case you guys were wondering about the North America one, I just created it today and started it. The article is called List of Wii games (North America) To help save size memory, the games that have a silver Unreleased word on a particular region should not be added in the region's article. I hope you like this plan! Versus22 (talk) 22:27, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I support this plan. The NA sort function is broken (and this is not the first time either), as the list is larger than any other sortable list. I have enjoyed seeing all the Wii releases in one neat list, but practicality is of the utmost importance, and as such it is necessary to split the lists.

Any help with separating these lists by region will be most appreciated. I will help whenever possible, but am more concerned that every title is properly sourced (see above comment about using only Nintendo's lists). Thanks, -Digiwrld1 (talk) 22:19, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Update: The sorting seems to be working once again, and as such let's hold off any drastic changes if everything seems to be working as is. -Digiwrld1 (talk) 05:00, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Can't sort North America column anymore

Please fix it. Tehw1k1 (talk) 08:22, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

The table is getting too long here, so I created the NA region article. Tehw1k1, you just copy and paste the North American info and put it in the article (The same for other regions). I'm thinking we should put the "Unreleased" titles into a separate article or section. Versus22 (talk) 04:04, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorting is working again, at least for me. Digiwrld1 (talk) 05:00, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Yep, working now. :) Tehw1k1 (talk) 08:47, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Controller compatible.

You know when you go shopping for a game and you look it up on the web, someone is trying to know which game is fully realized by at least 3 control methods. Wii remote and/or nunchuk, controller and gamecube. Unfortunately, I'm having great difficulty thinking which game has either of those controls. I suppose you need to make a new page to make it easier for people to know which games is control-worthy. Otherwise, I'm looking at a long list with publishers and release dates. You might also need to rethink what the list should contain. I mean if I go in this page and my expectations have dropped than I wonder what info should I be getting. But if you already have a page showing which games has more control methods than I can ease my nerves on this. You might not like what I said but you should think more about what does work on the page. Johnnyauau2000 (talk) 03:40, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, this list is for release dates only. Thanks for the input though. -Digiwrld1 (talk) 08:08, 9 April 2008 (UTC)