Talk:List of Utah State Routes

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[edit] Name Change

Propose we change the names of the highways FROM:

  • Utah State Highway

TO:

  • Utah SR

OR:

  • Utah State Routes

The State of Utah Department of Transportation calls them "SR" (for state routes).

http://www.le.state.ut.us/~code/TITLE72/72_04.htm

Thoughts?

WikiDon 23:00, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

I'd say Utah SR (with no dash). That's only because it's what is in the state law. However, I'd much rather prefer Utah State Route. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 03:26, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

How about State Route X (Utah)? The name of the road is State Route X, not Utah State Route X. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 07:25, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Naming conventions/Numbered highways. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 04:16, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

According to Wikipedia's [manual of style], all articles about state highways in Utah should be titled Utah State Route XXX. We are currently not using this convention. Should we change over to the approved convention, or should we leave our state routes as they are? VBlack 21:12, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Shield

I've been working on a SVG for the shield of utah. There is a complelete lack of images for utah shields out there, so i've been basically trying to make a high quality shield out of a extremey low quality gif. How is this?

This is only preliminary; but i will try to fix the spacing between the shapes tomorrow. atanamir 11:41, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Looks good :) Admrb♉ltz (T | C) 20:30, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Though might I suggest uploading it to the Wikimedia commons: Admrb♉ltz (T | C) 21:11, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I'll put them onto the commons once it was approved by you guys =P. Do you happen to have a picutr eof the 3 digit shields? Are they the same with a smaller font? atanamir 04:59, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
[1] [2] Admrb♉ltz ( T | I | E ) 05:17, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Hm, is there a difference in the shape between 2D and 3Digit ones? More humps on the beehive? Or is it the same? atanamir 05:28, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Looks like 2 more humps Admrb♉ltz ( T | I | E ) 05:32, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Looks good, though you may want to make the two sides the same (assuming shields are actually symmetrical). Here are some photos that may help: [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] --SPUI (T - C - RFC - Curpsbot problems) 01:45, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Hm, from that it seems that both 2Digit and 3Dgiit shields use the same design? atanamir 02:14, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Probably - the photos Admrboltz posted are from a guide sign, which often use different shields. --SPUI (T - C - RFC - Curpsbot problems) 02:16, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Image:Utah 1.svg vs I tried to even stuff out on the left one. Does it look better? atanamir 03:34, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Image:Utah 256.svg for 3 digit? Testing thumbnail: Image:Utah 256.svg

[edit] Competing entry

Any comments? Which one do you prefer? --SPUI (T - C - RFC - Curpsbot problems) 03:52, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Your's (spui) look more realistic, with that lil white space on the bottom part. Admrb♉ltz ( T | I | E ) 03:56, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Ah, I didnt' see the gashes on the bottom stand thing. I like yours better. They're a lot more symmetrical than mine. haha atanamir 03:57, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

commons:Category:Utah State Route shields - done. Ignore the way some of them look blank - to fix that I'd have to add ?action=purge to the URL of each bad one separately. --SPUI (T - C - RFC - Curpsbot problems) 06:30, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Is there some way that these could be made in to a template? I could see it be done by having a top, left, right and bottom that always remaing the same. The digits are put together from pieces that are a fixed width for each of the three sizes (number of digits). Fillers on the left and right would automatically be applied by the template. What about it? Val42 22:12, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Different digits are different widths, so that wouldn't work. --SPUI (T - C - RFC - Curpsbot problems) 22:17, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Calculating mileage

The U.S. Highway references include some concurrencies. Can they be calculated where they're not given? --NE2 07:32, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

  • US-6 is 89.402 on US-50. That matches US-6.
  • The I-15 overlap is 9.461/10.093 on US-50. I can't get either of these to match up.

[edit] When were routes numbered?

The history PDF shows routes from as early as 1910, but this seems to be when they were taken over; a 1917 report makes no mention of numbers. By 1926, the numbers reached 17 (but note that what are shown as 16 and 17 are mostly 59 and 41 in the PDF). By 1938 they were into the triple digits. It looks like the first numbering probably went to 60 though; the stuff afterwards is mostly from 1931. --NE2 08:48, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't know when they were first numbered. Utah had a great re-numbering in 1978 similar to California's in 1964. For me it has proven to be a mess just to get around the renumbering, forget trying to get to when they were first numbered. (it was pretty extensive, and worse then California's a lot of routes swapped numbers, rather than just new numbers for everything). I have 2 maps that pre-date the 1978 re-numbering that I am using for my edits. Unfortunately these maps still leave a lot of unanswered questions as one shows the inventory numbers Utah used to use, and in some cases doesn't show the signed number, just the inventory number. If you would like me to consult anything on those 2 maps let me know. I'm also working on Utah highways in my spare time but that's not much these days. Davemeistermoab 15:56, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
I actually just created Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Utah/1977 renumbering, which should help. --NE2 18:54, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The following routes are broken

  • SR-9 in Zion National Park (included in mileage)
  • SR-30 via I-84, I-15, US-91, US-89
  • SR-48 via SR-68
  • SR-79 via US-89; also includes a westbound piece
  • SR-104 includes a westbound piece
  • SR-118 via SR-120
  • SR-137 includes a spur in Mayfield
  • SR-190 includes a spur to Brighton
  • SR-210 includes a bypass at Alta
  • SR-228 includes a spur in Leeds
  • SR-269 includes a westbound piece
  • SR-276 in Glen Canyon National Recreation Area (included in mileage)
  • SR-282 is a multi-segment facility route
  • SR-284 is a multi-segment facility route
  • SR-286 is a multi-segment facility route
  • SR-292 is a multi-segment facility route

[edit] Do 900 and 901 exist?

They are not mentioned in Utah code here: http://le.utah.gov/~code/TITLE72/72_04.htm Or in UDOT's route logs here: http://www.dot.utah.gov/main/f?p=100:pg:5546707862863886654:::1:T,V:814,

How did these get here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Davemeistermoab (talk • contribs) 01:39, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Davemeistermoab#SR-900 and SR-901 --NE2 02:02, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Images in infobox

I'll give you my reasons for using I-15, US-89, and SR-201 for the examples. The former two represent the longest and arguably best-known routes of their type in the state. The latter is the only state route that is a freeway for most of its length. CL — 02:39, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I think the change was vandalism, not a good faith effort (by the author's failed effort to use the US-666 shield, which hasn't existed since 2003). But absolutely, those are the most "representative" routes of the state, no contest. Dave (talk) 04:26, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
I think this is the editor who created Utah State Route 121 editing under an IP address as per the editing patterns btw. What a shame... CL — 14:36, 12 June 2008 (UTC)