Talk:List of Urusei Yatsura characters
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[edit] Ten
It says that Ten's real name is Jariten. I don't think so (wow that was blunt). Jari means little pebbles in Japanese. By Ataru calling Ten "Jariten", he's implying that Ten's little, worthless, etc. Peaceman 03:09, September 11, 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, his real name is 'Jariten'; the AnimEigo liner notes explain it in the same way when he is introduced, and speculate on the reason for the name. This may be partly why he is usually called 'Ten'. Also, it's a pun on how he initially arrives ("little pebbles from Heaven"). And he is, physically, the smallest member of the main cast, after all. It may also suggest an incomplete understanding of the Japanese language by the Oni who are, after all, aliens in this series.--David Breakey 14:56, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
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- hmm...okay. But then again, Onis other than Lum, her dad, etc. all call him "Ten-bocchan" which basically means young sir Ten. But, I'm not the authority here, so I believe you. Peaceman 03:47, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
- Strange. I had always learned that "Jariten" (meaning something like "bratty Ten") was a nickname that the boys of Tomobiki had coined for him. Evidence of this can be seen in the episode where Lum and Ten get drunk off pickled plums. A drunken Lum asks Mendou where Ataru is. Mendou replies "he's off chasing Jari--i mean Ten!", as if he didn't want her to hear him use the nickname.
- Yeah, his full given name is "Jariten". Knowing Takahashi, she was making at least one joke by naming him that way. ^_^ --nihon 07:30, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
No, his name can't be "Jariten". It's a nickname. If you say "Jariten!", you mean "Ten, you BRAT!". --163.139.215.193 15:57, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
That is, indeed, correct; however, this is Rumiko Takahashi we're talking about here. She's known for truly horrendous puns. Besides, that would still fit the character, if you think about it. --David Breakey 20:40, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Jariten is indeed this character's full name. Sometimes when we see Lum's parents at home on the Oni Planet discussing him, he is referred to as "Jariten." Zubenelgenubi 22:41, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Deleting Content?
I added a lot of additional character detail to this article. Can anyone tell me why it was removed? 21:58, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
- Some idiots are also deleting voice actors for Lum, Ataru, and many of the other characters! Do they have more issues than the New York Times or something? --Ryanasaurus007 01:00, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- If your content is being removed, just add it back in. Please don't remove content that others have added (unless it's inaccurate). We can both keep an eye on the article and try to make sure the additional material stays. Zubenelgenubi 06:21, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
- That anonymous idiot's definitely got more issues than the New York Times. He's still deleting the voice actors! --Ryanasaurus007 02:35, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
- Name-calling is very unprofessional. It's also unnessary. If you wish to add voice actor information, please do so without removing details that others have added. Please see Wikipedia policies. Zubenelgenubi 03:22, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
- Well, could you please add the additional information WITHOUT deleting the voice actors? --Ryanasaurus0077 22:01, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- Well, could you please add the voice actor information WITHOUT deleting other content? Zubenelgenubi 06:08, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- I wish I could, but it'd take too many freaking edits to do so! By the time I'm done it'll be Valentine's Day! --Ryanasaurus0077 15:00, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Absurd hyperbole is no more professional than name-calling. And creating a new username doesn't really fool anyone. Please read up on all relevant Wikipedia policies regarding article editing. There is no need for you to remove others' content. Zubenelgenubi 00:05, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
- Hey, stop deleting the English voice actors! --Ryanasaurus0077 20:42, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
- Absurd hyperbole is no more professional than name-calling. And creating a new username doesn't really fool anyone. Please read up on all relevant Wikipedia policies regarding article editing. There is no need for you to remove others' content. Zubenelgenubi 00:05, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
- I wish I could, but it'd take too many freaking edits to do so! By the time I'm done it'll be Valentine's Day! --Ryanasaurus0077 15:00, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Well, could you please add the voice actor information WITHOUT deleting other content? Zubenelgenubi 06:08, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Well, could you please add the additional information WITHOUT deleting the voice actors? --Ryanasaurus0077 22:01, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- Name-calling is very unprofessional. It's also unnessary. If you wish to add voice actor information, please do so without removing details that others have added. Please see Wikipedia policies. Zubenelgenubi 03:22, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
- That anonymous idiot's definitely got more issues than the New York Times. He's still deleting the voice actors! --Ryanasaurus007 02:35, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
- If your content is being removed, just add it back in. Please don't remove content that others have added (unless it's inaccurate). We can both keep an eye on the article and try to make sure the additional material stays. Zubenelgenubi 06:21, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Page protected due to edit warring
Due to edit warring of multiple editors on this page, I have protected the page to prevent the constant back-and-forth reverting going on. Please discuss what changes you want to make below, come to a consensus, and then let me know on my talk page and I'll unprotect the page. Thanks for playing nicely! ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 07:32, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Discussion
The one responsible deleted the English voice actors for many of the characters despite them being correct! --Ryanasaurus0077 13:27, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
- I agree with my "twin brother"! --Ryanasaurus007 01:12, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you for locking the page. It's been needed for awhile. The issue seems to be a particular individual with a very unprofessional attitude. (Just read his comments on the history page and this page. "Twin Brother" indeed.) Voice actor details are of limited usefulness to most readers, yet he keeps removing large amounts of character detail while adding in what he wants in the article. This article is not just about the Urusei Yattsura anime series, but also the manga (which doesn't have voice actors). Nevertheless, I have no problem with voice actor information in the article, as long as other content is not deleted when that information is inserted. Zubenelgenubi 03:01, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- A message from my twin brother: "If you wanted the page locked, why not do your part of the consensus? --Ryanasaurus007 03:09, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
- Reiterating my point about the unprofessional attitude. And it didn't even make any sense. It appears to be useless trying to reason with this person. Zubenelgenubi 04:30, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
- Do you want the voice actors restored or not? --Ryanasaurus007 21:48, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
- If you would please read what I wrote above, I have already stated that having the voice actor information there is fine. PROVIDED that you do NOT remove other content while you ad it in. This is, by the way, exactly what I have been saying all along. Zubenelgenubi 05:52, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
- *doing his best to sound professional* NOW do you want to compose your part of the consensus? --Ryanasaurus0077 11:29, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
- If you would please read what I wrote above, I have already stated that having the voice actor information there is fine. PROVIDED that you do NOT remove other content while you ad it in. This is, by the way, exactly what I have been saying all along. Zubenelgenubi 05:52, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
- Do you want the voice actors restored or not? --Ryanasaurus007 21:48, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
- Reiterating my point about the unprofessional attitude. And it didn't even make any sense. It appears to be useless trying to reason with this person. Zubenelgenubi 04:30, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
- A message from my twin brother: "If you wanted the page locked, why not do your part of the consensus? --Ryanasaurus007 03:09, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you for locking the page. It's been needed for awhile. The issue seems to be a particular individual with a very unprofessional attitude. (Just read his comments on the history page and this page. "Twin Brother" indeed.) Voice actor details are of limited usefulness to most readers, yet he keeps removing large amounts of character detail while adding in what he wants in the article. This article is not just about the Urusei Yattsura anime series, but also the manga (which doesn't have voice actors). Nevertheless, I have no problem with voice actor information in the article, as long as other content is not deleted when that information is inserted. Zubenelgenubi 03:01, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Consensus decision
Current content of the article (as it was at the time it was locked) will be retained. Additional details about the various voice actors who played the characters on television will be added in without deleting or modifying the current content. Zubenelgenubi 06:05, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
- A job that will take me for-freaking-ever to do, Zubenelgenubi, so you'll have to help me on adding the voice actors. --Ryanasaurus0077 21:17, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
- Nonsense. Also, this doesn't belong in the "consensus" section since there appears to be none. Zubenelgenubi 04:45, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
- Well, I might need some help restoring the voice actors (I meant to say it'll take a while). --Ryanasaurus0077 21:56, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
- We'll also put in the Spanish (Latin American and Castilian) voices AND Italian voices. Want to pitch in, Zubenelgenubi? But first, we have to ask Nihon Joe to unlock. --Ryanasaurus0077 01:53, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
- Done. I've already done the first long part of an even longer reconstruction. Want to help? --Ryanasaurus0077 23:57, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
- Well, that's a wrap. I've just now finished the cast part of Reconstruction. --Ryanasaurus0077 12:56, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- Done. I've already done the first long part of an even longer reconstruction. Want to help? --Ryanasaurus0077 23:57, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
- We'll also put in the Spanish (Latin American and Castilian) voices AND Italian voices. Want to pitch in, Zubenelgenubi? But first, we have to ask Nihon Joe to unlock. --Ryanasaurus0077 01:53, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
- Well, I might need some help restoring the voice actors (I meant to say it'll take a while). --Ryanasaurus0077 21:56, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
- Nonsense. Also, this doesn't belong in the "consensus" section since there appears to be none. Zubenelgenubi 04:45, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Duplicate info/info migration
Many of the characters have their own pages and the information on them in this page is a summary of that info. Is there still a need for these summaries even though the characters have their pages linked to, as the reader is essentially reading the same things twice. Information re. characters who don't have their own pages can stay here as it is.
Also, it seems that all the voice actor info would be more relevant on the character pages instead of being mentioned here. Why not migrate VA info missing from those pages from here to there and then eliminate all VA info for characters on here who already have their own pages? --BrokenSphere 21:24, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
- I think that most readers will not go to the individual character pages, but will use this page as a summary, as intended. If someone does want to visit an individual character page, there is plenty of additional information on all of them that this page really isn't all that redundant. As far as voice actor information is concerned, I agree in principle. However, Ryanasaurus will likely disagree... Zubenelgenubi 07:13, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
- Pardon my language, but why the #$*& would I disagree? --Ryanasaurus0077 20:58, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
- ...because you were very adamant that such info should be in THIS article, and complained bitterly about it being removed? Zubenelgenubi 05:18, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
- How about I set up a link for you to create, and you create the page? --Ryanasaurus0077 10:32, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
- I have no idea what "page" you are referring to. BrokenSphere suggested that the voice actor info be moved from the Urusei Yatsura Characters Page and put on each of the individual pages devoted to the various specific characters. These pages already exist. Nobody is talking about creating a new page that I am aware of. Zubenelgenubi 21:34, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
- Perhaps I did't know squat about those pages already existing at the time! --Ryanasaurus0077 12:56, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
- Maybe not, but irrelevant to the discussion at hand. BrokenSphere thinks the voice actor info belongs on each of the individual character pages. Since you'd be the one moving it, what do YOU think? Zubenelgenubi 20:49, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
- Perhaps I did't know squat about those pages already existing at the time! --Ryanasaurus0077 12:56, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
- I have no idea what "page" you are referring to. BrokenSphere suggested that the voice actor info be moved from the Urusei Yatsura Characters Page and put on each of the individual pages devoted to the various specific characters. These pages already exist. Nobody is talking about creating a new page that I am aware of. Zubenelgenubi 21:34, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
- How about I set up a link for you to create, and you create the page? --Ryanasaurus0077 10:32, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
- ...because you were very adamant that such info should be in THIS article, and complained bitterly about it being removed? Zubenelgenubi 05:18, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
- Pardon my language, but why the #$*& would I disagree? --Ryanasaurus0077 20:58, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
Started on this. So anyone who already has their own page will have their VA info from here migrated there. For everyone else, I moved that info around to read last because to me it's very distracting to try and read a character description and have to sort through x number of VAs first. Where a particular VA is unknown, I deleted that because as of now that info doesn't exist and is also distracting. --BrokenSphere 20:51, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Inspiration Behind Character Design
Would it be appropriate for the article to talk about the inspiration behind some of Rumiko Takahashi's designs? For example, multiple sources (one noted below) state Lum's inspiration as Agnes Lum.