Talk:List of University of Toronto people

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[edit] False Positives

The list of University Professors is all formatted as article links on each name. Unfortunately few of these bios have been created. Those with more common names are tending to get "false positives" - linking to pages about someone else with the same name.

I sampled the first six names that were not redlinked, and of these, three were to the correct page while the other three were false positives.

One option would be to create stubs for every bio, disambiguating every one with a name collision, but that would be a lot of typing.Birdbrainscan 04:10, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] University Professors

The list of University Professors is merely a list of every University Professor at the U of T ([1]). While it is no doubt an academic honour, I don't think being a University Professor makes someone inherently notable any more than being a Professor makes someone inherently notable. Perhaps this list should be checked, the non-notable profs removed, and the blurb about the notable ones (which most probably are) can be changed from the subject they teach to what makes them notable (e.g. for James Arthur, change from "Mathematics" to "Mathematician, former president of the American Mathematical Society" or something like that)? Danelo 16:59, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Being a "University Professor" at the University of Toronto IS a great honour. Only a few Professors make the grade, after a long vetting process. Bellagio99 (talk) 15:40, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Citations

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This article has been tagged for citations. Adding citations to every person included may become cumbersome. If anyone has any ideas... Hughey (talk) 13:33, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree. The crosslink to the person's bio elsewhere in WP should be enough, or at least to an article where that person's work is prominently used. I'd like to remove the tag. Bellagio99 (talk) 15:40, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
That's not enough. In-line citations are required. GreenJoe 17:26, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
GreenJoe, A good point for regular articles. But I've seen a number of List of Notable people pages that just show crosslinks to the named persons' articles, without inline citations. If you want to know more about the person, you just click on the crosslink and you're there. Three I Watch are notable persons from The Bronx, Bronx High School of Science and Lafayette College, for example.Bellagio99 (talk) 00:10, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Every featured list of this type, uses in-line citations without exception. Check out List of Dartmouth College alumni for example. I'm not saying this one should be featured, but it should have in-line citations. If you make it a group effort, it won't take that long. GreenJoe 02:42, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Per GreenJoe, citations are needed. Just pust them in a table and they won't be cumbersome at all. --Padraic 16:39, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
It depends on the source in the crosslink. Is it unreliable, or likely to be removed? Is the subject of a borderline notability that may lead to an AfD? forestPIG 22:17, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
I disagree. I removed a ton of names where there affiliation with UofT wasn't mentioned. I didn't even care about references at that point, I just wanted there to be a mention. Thus it needs an in-line citation, in this list. None of the articles I looked at (and I looked at them all) had a reference in relation to their being an alumni of UofT. GreenJoe 22:25, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
I agree, there should be inline citations, as we don't know that the wikilinked article has a reliable source referencing that fact in it. Per GreenJoe, if every featured list of this type uses incline citations, this format should be followed. DigitalC (talk) 07:16, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Is there support for incorporating tables into the article, such as with List of Dartmouth College alumni?

I like the idea of tables, makes it look a bit more clean, but as long as in-line citations are incorporated, I'm fine either way. GreenJoe 13:13, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Having gone through this same discussion on other lists in the past, I can assure you that lists of this type are expected to contain inline citations rather than relying solely on the university happening to be mentioned in the linked person's article. The fact that some other lists haven't yet been upgraded to meet current policy expectations does not absolve this list of that responsibility — it just means the other lists need to be tagged and improved too. I would certainly recommend that this list be converted to table format at the same time, but that isn't a requirement per se — sources, however, are mandatory. Bearcat (talk) 15:39, 27 May 2008 (UTC)