Talk:List of University of Oregon people

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[edit] Notable Faculty

Is it just me, or does anyone else find it odd that the only two notable faculty members listed are the football and basketball coaches??? Hospitalhill 02:20, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup of non-notables and external links

Speak up now for your favorite redlinked UO alum. Though redlinks encourage article development, lists like this attract quite a few vanity additions. So make a case now for redlinks that should be included, because I plan to clean this list out in a few days. If someone meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines then he or she should really already have an article. The presidents are safe, everyone else had better link from somewhere else or a good case for them made on this page, or they will be deleted shortly. External links to folks' businesses are also going to get axed, per WP:EL and Wikipedia is not a linkfarm. Again, if someone's business is notable, then it should have an article, not an external link. This is not LinkedIn or the UO Alumi Association. If it were, I would deserve a link here too. I assure you, however, that I am not currently notable. Thanks for your attention to this matter. Katr67 02:09, 3 November 2007 (UTC) P.S. A Pulitzer Prize will get you in, but a redlink and an external link to your business is the kiss of death, as far as I am concerned. Katr67 02:12, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Alright, I guess since I edited this page so heavily I'm going to have to take the hit for this one. I'll go through the list and the redlinks and external links (whether I added them or not). For Architecture and design: Allied Works Architecture is one of those firms that is well known, but is virtually synonymous to the founder. For example, Morphosis redirects to Thom Mayne. Rick Mather and his firm are relatively well known although he may not be up to "celebrity status" yet. Judgement call. It seems that Gensler now has a page (huge firm), though I'm unsure if Vice Chairman is worthy of note. Wilkes and DWRB is a large firm in SD as far as architecture firms go, but may not be worthy of note. Martin Willard may not be of note either, since the Pioneer Courthouse Square is the only building of note he's designed. In Arts and literature, all Pulitzer winners were considered as notable. In Business, my entries typically required either (co)founder, CEO, chairman, or president of a well known or Fortune500 company. Procter & Gamble is Fortune500. Bernard and Univar...I uh, don't know. Borland International is very well known among programmers. Columbia Sportswear is a well known attire company. Chambers Com. is well known in Oregon, not sure about anywhere else...maybe shouldn't be on here. US Bancorp is a Fortune500 company. Not sure if founder of Taco Time should be on here. How well known is Taco Time? Not sure how big Arrowhead Insurance is. Not sure about MediaOne either. Pape Group is big in the construction industry, in the west coast at least. Unsure about its notability. Gucci is huge in fasion. Big Lots is a Fortune500 company, as well as Tech Data. Not sure how relevant the first mutual fund in Oregon is. Widmer is a large brewing company. It's known up and down the west coast, but not sure about the east coast. In Education, I considered all presidents of universities. I have no clue about Film and television, I considered them all a judgement call (same with Music). For Military, I left all the top admirals and generals, MoH's, and special instances, like Malarkey or Simpson, who has a page. In Law and Politics, I left anyone with a title of their respective subcategory. Under Sports: Other, I included any Olympic medalists. George Streisinger's accomplishment seems notable. The Faculty/Staff: Athletics section was a bit different. Some positions like head coach of football are notable by its own virtue. Athletic director may not be one of those positions, but I listed Kilkenny due to the entry in business. Lananna I believe is one of the most well known T&F head coaches around, but I don't know if that is notable enough.

Is there a way to list a general guideline for entries? Would it be effective to list it in the discussion? Cluskillz 04:43, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for looking into it. Some articles like this have a commented out section with guidelines that people will see (one hopes) when they try to edit the article, but guidelines on the talk page could work too. Sometimes on articles that get a lot of external link spam, there is a section where people can argue for the inclusion of their link, so that approach might work too, where if you delete an entry for non-notability, you can use the edit summary to direct the editor to the talk page discussion. I admit I've got a rather anti-corporate bias, so I'm not entirely sure simply being a CEO of something confers notability. I'll check the notability guidelines and see if they give a clue. But I'd say if somebody is only redlinked on this page and nowhere else, it might be time to prune them. See List of Oregon State University alumni for an A-class list to see how they handle such things. Katr67 06:19, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Hrm...I just realized that there is a notability guide on the help section. In reference to CEO/Charirmen/Presidents of businesses specifically, there isn't a direct guideline for them. I agree that just being a CEO does not confer notability, but I included the qualifier that the business must be significant (ex: Fortune500) or be extremely well known. CEOs of large and/or influential companies tend to be recognized and well published in Business journals for example (which would qualify under Basic Criteria), due to the impact their decisions make on their respective industries and the economy in general. Granted, I haven't checked to see whether the listed heads of business actually have been well published and I was just running under that basic assumption. Perhaps each case should be verified to see how well published the respective person is. As for the Oregon State University list, I've looked it over and I must say that I'm not particularly impressed with how they screen the entries, particularly for athletics. They appear to list many professional athletes who have had extremely short and insignificant stints (sometimes not even in the top league) in their respective sport. I find it hard to believe that, for example, Tim Boyle, who has appeared in many business articles would be "less notable" because he is redlinked, than a large number of "1 and out" pro athletes out there with just stubs. While we're on the subject, I've seen a lot of blue linked people (particularly associate justices and district court justices) with pages that are not stubs, but are not included in the list. Since the notability help page says that lists ought to follow the same guideline, do you think all bluelinks with substantial pages should be included on this list? Cluskillz 22:14, 9 November 2007 (UTC)