Talk:List of The Apprentice candidates (UK)

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[edit] Series 3 Candidates

This sounds like it was copied from somewhere... probably the BBC website. Cannot copy and paste on wikipedia! Goldbringer 20:13, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Indeed. It was a copyright violation from [1] and I have thus removed it. └ UkPaolo/talk┐ 19:48, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Is it possible to like put the picture of the candidates with their name 86.150.68.12 17:58, 19 April 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Including screenshots for Series Three

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Would uploading screenshots from series three (like those already present in series one and two) be fair use? The reason I ask is that there would then be six screenshots in the article - the fair use covers a "limited number" of screenshots. I am aware that in articles such as List of Big Brother 2006 housemates (UK) (where there were 22 images, one of each housemate) the screenshots were removed. However, this list features 4 different series, so does fair use take that into account? Seaserpent85 21:13, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Can't we just use the promotional photos which include each and every candidate, as used on the series articles? I'll make that change now, if anyone has any objections-please speak now (or forever hold your peace :-D). Happy editing! Dalejenkins 14:57, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
I've reverted your changes Dale - what is the point in having images in a list of candidates if you can't make out who is who. So far no one has raised an issue with the screenshots, so there's no need to change unless a problem is identified. Seaserpent85 16:13, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Didn't you just raise an issue with the screenshots? Suerly it's better to have all or half? Dalejenkins 16:28, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Not an issue, more just clarification - these images are allowed under fair use. It is justifiable to have 2 screenshots from each series, for identification of the content (the candidates). I don't have anything against having all the candidates in one image, it's just that the images we have aren't all suitable for identifying each candidate (particularly series two). Seaserpent85 16:39, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Inclusion of the Michelle Dewberry photo

Does anyone else think that the Michelle and Sir Alan photo should not be at the top of the page, as this is not really the focus of the article. Maybe a picture of Sir Alan or the show logo? Dalejenkins 16:36, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm not understanding your point of view at all. Surely a picture of a notable Apprentice candidate is exactly what is needed in the lead of such a list? Look at any other lists, they will generally include such an image (a notable example). Sir Alan isn't a candidate, why would he be in a list of candidates? And what do you mean by "this is not really the focus of the article"?? Seaserpent85 16:43, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Should the page be Semi-protected?

Many IP Address users are coming on and adding rumours, unsourced statements and original research. I think the page should be semi-protected, anyone agree? Thanks. Dalejenkins 19:25, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't think it's necessary. A lot of what is being added is useful and is citeable. The problem is that there is a lack of info being added by anyone other than unregistered users... semi-protection will just freeze the article in its unfished state.Seaserpent85 00:01, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nargis Ara paragraph is confusing

"It has since been revealed by contestant Alexa Tilley that the team were given no choice in this matter, this fact was not revealed to the television audience." Given no choice about what? Using cats for the calendar?

Unfortunately a lot of the bios on this page haven't been touched for ages. If you see something that is unverifiable, please feel free to remove it! Likewise, if you can improve it and find sources that would be great too! Seaserpent85 16:07, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kristina and Simon-Seperate articles

Following in our tradition, and most other Reality TV article's traditions, of creating new pages for the winner and the runner up of a RTV programme (see Tim Campbell and Saira Khan and Michelle Dewberry and Ruth Badger), would anyone like to make a start on Kristina Grimes and Simon Ambrose? Dalejenkins 08:03, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree - I'll make a start on Kristina. However, if it turns out that the runner-up fades into obscurity, there's no need to have an article just because they were the runner-up. Seaserpent85 09:53, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Agreed. Dalejenkins 09:59, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
I Think there should be a seperate article, as Kristina has a good quality article, and so should Simon whether or not he remains in the public eye for long, as he competed, and played a major part in a nationwide BBC programme. Olz06 19:35, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Feel free to make one Oz, it's only because no one has had time to make one rather than it not being a worthwhile article! Seaserpent85 13:43, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Definitely, if Katie and Kristina have one then Simon should too (Jackofalltradesmasterofnone 13:08, 14 June 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Images

Looking at what is used on the American counterpart of this page-[2]-I was wondering if we should do something like this, with the candidates photos. Dalejenkins | The Apprentice (UK Series Three)'s Peer Review-Review now please! 10:58, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

I think the image on the US version would be a candidate for deletion if it were actually viewed often enough! Unfortunately, I don't think there's a way we could it and keep to the screenshot guidelines. Seaserpent85 19:38, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 3 seperate articles

Do you think we should do this, 1 for each series. If 16 more candidates do series 4, the article will be huge. Also, the articles will be easier to improve if they are seperate. Thoughts? Dalejenkins | The Apprentice (UK Series Three)'s Peer Review-Review now please! 19:33, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, I'm 2 minds - I don't really mind either way to be honest.
  • Pros of splitting
    • Increased readability
    • Would give further context to each series
  • Cons of splitting
    • 3 articles to maintain instead of 1
    • Decreased usability if someone is looking for a candidate but can't remember which series.
So, overall I'd be inclined to say no to splitting, I don't think it's too long yet. However, when it comes to the fourth series then it will definitely need splitting. Seaserpent85 19:42, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] James Max - separate article or not

There is a dispute over the inclusion of the article James Max. It has been redirected to the item within this article a few tiems, but these have been consistently reverted by User:Butlermonkey. I favour the redirect, but would prefer to establish what consensus there is on this matter first. Fritzpoll (talk) 15:44, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I have now nominated James Max for deletion at AfD Fritzpoll (talk) 13:08, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 'Dress Sense'

Surely it's not really necessary for references to whether a contestants 'dress sense' has been critised or not. After all this is a business show not part of the Next Top Model franchise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.111.119.222 (talk) 12:23, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps as a subject on its own, then maybe not but I think it does reflect how the general media, and maybe the viewers, are taking a much deeper interest in the program. Helping to build a 'bigger picture' of the program and its influence maybe? (80.193.99.43 (talk) 09:51, 21 April 2008 (UTC))
I have to agree - it would be fair enough if it's referenced by the programme, but what the Daily Mail thinks doesn't seem notable or relevant, nor can it be taken as a reliable source; the Daily Mail criticises all sorts of people. We do at least have a reference for a counter-point of view to this however. Mdwh (talk) 00:03, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Is Lee McQueen Gay?

In episode 9, Lee mutters something about not liking Lucinda's idea about a TV advert that plays on homosexuality. I cannot work out if Lee says "Well I'm a gay man so I wouldn't buy it" or "If I was a gay man...". Did anyone else pick up on this? Supereddy (talk) 22:40, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Is Alex really 24?

If so, how was he born in 1982? I heard this DOB mentioned on The Apprentice: Final Four special recently also. So what age is he?

I think this is due to the filming taking place in September/October 2007, they've quoted his age as that at the time of filming. If he was born in 1982, then he must have turned 25 at the end of last year. Seaserpent85 23:00, 12 June 2008 (UTC)