Talk:List of Star Trek: Voyager episodes

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Contents 1 Browser Problem 2 Nav 3 Naming conventions poll 4 Request Move 5 Images 6 Restoring the Images 7 Redirection 8 Removed Wikilink

[edit] Browser Problem

I am using Firefox 3, and it appears that all of the season breakdowns only take up like 300px (1/5 of the page). I think the problem is that the column spans are set to be 5, rather than 4 (there are only 4 columns from what I can see). Does anyone have any objections to me fixing that? PeEll (talk) 18:55, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Nav

I created and put in the navigation in episodes, please add it if you create a new article.
- RoyBoy ⁸⁰⁰ 05:46, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Naming conventions poll

There is an ongoing poll and Request for Comment at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (television)#RfC Episode Article Naming conventions which has direct relevance to how to title the Star Trek episode articles, meaning that based on how this poll comes out, many Star Trek episodes may get moved around. All interested editors are therefore strongly encouraged to participate, to ensure that your wishes are incorporated into the consensus process. --Elonka 22:13, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

A lot of episodes seem to have been redirected to "<episode name> (VOY)" instead of "<episode name> (Voyager episode)" (see the Wikipedia:WikiProject Star Trek guidelines). The 'word' "VOY" doesn't really make any sense in disambiguating, whereas "Voyager episode" does. Marky1981 11:07, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Aye. A guy called "llyria05" did it, VOY doesn't make sense to me either, I reverted Caretaker awhile back. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 11:12, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I would support moving those back to "VOY episide" or some variant with "episode" in it. Cburnett 13:59, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

"VOY" to me seems to ambiguous however, it seems okay for TNG and DS9 as that is just an acronym, but the "VOY" abbreviation seems slightly fanish at best and then the reader has to ask them self, "what is a VOY?" thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 14:14, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Exactly - VOY probably only makes sense to a Star Trek fan. We had this debate a long time ago and it was agreed that Voyager episodes would be located at "<episode name> (Voyager episode)". Now we are only appending this when disambiguation is necessary, which is fine, but there's no reason to be using "VOY". Marky1981 18:01, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

DS9 and TNG are valid and commonly-used acronyms in the press. VOY is not. Under "principle of least astonishment", I would rather see "(Voyager)" or "(Voyager episode)" as the suffix, unless someone can show me that VOY has become a more common term in reliable sources. --Elonka 18:32, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I think we all agree that appending "Voyager" is better than "VOY". As all the articles previously were appended with "(Voyager episode)", most links already direct there. Also, "(Voyager episode)" is better than just "(Voyager)" to make it crystal clear we're talking about the episode, e.g. "Caretaker (Voyager episode)" rather than "Caretaker (Voyager)" which could be about the entity himself. It would also be consistent with all the other series. Marky1981 19:40, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree. All pages that have been moved to (VOY) should be moved back to (Voyager episode) then. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 19:50, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Request Move

A Request Move affecting the naming of articles in this list is currently being conducted here. All opinions are welcome. --`/aksha 10:26, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Images

Regarding the removal of images from the tables, I think they were more than decoration: they help to remind the reader of an episode's plot, as long as the image chosen distinguishes the episode (i.e. it is clear from the image which episode it is from). I know each use of an image needs to be justified, so can we put the above reasoning on each image page and restore the images in the table? Marky1981 11:07, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

See this. Multiple people have been going around removing screen captures under false reasoning. Matthew 11:09, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

It needs to be more then justified, it needs to provide crital commentary on the image in question. Any amount of commentary that would allow a fair use image would be too long for a list. These images are too be used only in the episode article itself. -M^ask? 16:35, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Restoring the Images

I have to agree with Marky1981 that the images were there for more than just decoration. As a huge trekie(trek-fan) myself, I remember most episodes by their names, however I have found that Navigating through the list has defiantly become more difficult without the images. I never realized just how helpful and useful they were until they were gone. They have been vital to the article, and I believe that many other people would agree!

I have reverted the article back to its previous state, with the images as I believe that these type of drastic changes should be well discussed before the changes are made. In addition, this could possibly be vandalism. Please write back to share your comments! -Alex rosenberg35 06:23, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Please read [1]. The images have been removed from most LOE's pages eZio 06:55, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

I respect that Wikipedia is in favor of the fair use of images, however instead of simply removing all of them without a supplement, there should be some sort of compromise. Please consider alternatives. It really is easier to navigate with them! -Alex rosenberg35 07:08, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree, but the thing is the admins feel that people were abusing the WP:NONFREE policy. I'm no admin so maybe you take up the discussion with one of them, some of the names are in the link i gave earlier. And please don't restore the images till you have sorted the matter. Thanks eZio 10:57, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

(unindent) I've got the page semi-protected because unidentified people were reverting to the version with images. eZio 20:02, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Redirection

There was a tag at the top of this article stating that "The Cloud" redirected to here. However, as there is an article for that episode, i've changed the redirect to point there. Rojomoke 12:27, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed Wikilink

I removed the wikilink to Flesh and Blood (Voyager episode) as it was just looping back to the list of episodes rather then an actual summary of the episode. When I attempted to revert that page back to a version that had a description my edit was undone and the redirect put back in place. I'm not really sure why as that episode has a better description then some of the other episodes that are not redirecting. GenkoKitsu (talk) 01:46, 24 December 2007 (UTC)