Talk:List of Star Trek: Enterprise episodes

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[edit] Pictures

There should be a standard size for the pictures, like the TNG, DSN and VGR episode lists, to avoid the annoying length issues that occur with episodes like "Unexpected" and "Sleeping Dogs."

[edit] Old stuff

Where is the ratings for each episode being obtained from? -- KJen74

Why is this called Star Trek ENT? The series is Star Trek Enterprise. And is a list of episode names worthwhile? Are you planning on discussing each episode, or are we supposed to just be content with names? -- Zoe

Aren't Star Trek series names all popularly abbreviated with three letters? There's TOS, TNG, and DS9... not sure about Voyager, though. -- Goatasaur
Star Trek VOY is redirected to Star Trek: Voyager. We also have Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and Star Trek: Enterprise. I really think this should be at List of Star Trek: Enterprise episodes]]. -- Zoe
I vote with Zoe. Although a big Star Trek fan, I was confused by the term ENT. Arthur 22:50 Mar 1, 2003 (UTC)
Well, if there are other articles with the proper name of the series, it should be kept in the same format. I concur. -- 167.1.128.100

OK, I moved it. But I still question the value of a list of titles. -- Zoe

I have been creating a new article for each episode and adding plot summaries for them. So, I think that having an article that lists all the episodes is really whorthwhile. I would like to add plot summaries for every episode on the list, but I am not sure I have the time. I'll try to add as much as I can. --KJen74

I hear your point, Zoe, but real fans are fascinated by this list. You might be right, though, that the list belongs in the Star Trek: Enterprise article. Then the info is available and included in the encyclopedia, but not a separate (why?!) article. -- Arthur 22:26 Mar 6, 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Story arcs

I added the story arcs to the bottom of the list. By all means check them out and edit as necessary, though I'm pretty sure I got all the arcs.

As for the Xindi arc. I'd have to pay closer attention to the list and/or watch them again, but there might be a few eps that aren't directly involved with the Xindi. However, they all take place in the Expanse so maybe the arc storyline should be changed to "The Xindi/The Expanse" or something. Cburnett 22:12, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Oh, and I know there's a few season 3 eps that directly bring in the temporal cold war. Cburnett 22:14, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
This is a good idea and I went in and added a bunch. I also added a note that several arcs overlap (case being the three TCW-related episodes during the Xindi arc). IMO all the season 3 episodes tie into the Xindi arc, however indirectly, so I don't see a problem in listing them all. "Home" is very much the coda of the arc, as well as a prologue to the Vulcan arc, so I added it to both lists. And I added a Birth of the Federation arc list which may include the last 3 episodes as well. What are your thoughts about "background" arcs, as in ones that don't really dominate episodes? T'Pol's development (and occasionally undeveleopment) as a Vulcan has very much been an arc since day one, as has the Trip/T'Pol relationship arc that is coming to the fore now. 23skidoo 01:39, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Should make the existing "Plot arcs" and then create "Character arcs". Both are worthy lists to have. Maybe the Enterprise story arcs merit their own article? From there, a summary of each arch could be given with the episodes it covers. Perhaps a blurb about how the arc is continued in each episode, which would be similar to the episode overview but specifically about how the arc evolves. Cburnett 01:45, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Sounds good, though I fear someone might cry "Trekcruft" (a few months back someone tried to get all the episode summaries deleted). But I think some sort of write-up on the different arcs would make for interesting reading. And without giving away any spoilers, many of the major arcs are concluded now since we have a good idea what's happening in the remaining episodes, so this is a good time to do it. 23skidoo 02:13, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Done. List of Star Trek: Enterprise story arcs, feel free to expand like mad. :) Cburnett 04:21, May 4, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Story arcs intro

This is not completely true is it?

Star Trek: Enterprise, unlike the other Star Trek television series, has numerous story arcs. The first two seasons had only two story arcs with the entire third season as a single arc. The fourth season has had numerous 2 & 3 episode arcs, which more than doubled the total number of arcs. A number of arcs overlap while some arcs set the scene for later arcs.

I mean DS9 had several storyarcs that was at least three episodes. Dixon 13:48, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

By all means, figure out how many story arcs DS9 had and we can compare. Cburnett 14:21, Apr 8, 2005 (UTC)
DS9 had a few - the Dominion War, The Circle from season 2, and the whole Bajor politics thing. But if we're talking multiple 2-3 episode story arcs, involving consecutive episodes, then ENT was the first to do this on a regular basis. Had the show been renewed for a fifth season there is every indication this format would have continued. I do think the statement in question could be reworded a little, though. 23skidoo 06:26, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, my point in writing that was that ENT used story arcs much more unlike the other ST series... Of course, reword as you see fit. Cburnett 06:58, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)
I gave it a tweak. And the idea that ENT was the first to truly embrace story arcs has been expressed by the likes of Rick Berman and Manny Coto as well. From what I understand (per a statement apparently made on one of the DS9 DVD releases - I'm hearing this second hand) is that Berman and his team actually consider DS9 to be one single story -- a novel for TV is the term I believe they use -- and not a "story arc" per se. 23skidoo 14:30, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Boston link

The Boston link could do with updating to point to the appropriate Boston article, but I'm not sure which it is. --John 23:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Links to episodes

I am in favour of linking episodes in the form "<Episode name> (<Series name> episode)" (see discussion at Talk:List of Star Trek: DS9 episodes. However, I would like to change the format for Enterprise (and Voyager) episode links from, e.g. Broken Bow (ENT episode) to Broken Bow (Enterprise episode) (and Caretaker (VOY episode) to Caretaker (Voyager episode)). I think TNG and DS9 are acceptable abbreviations because they are the initials of The Next Generation and Deep Space 9 but this isn't the case for ENT or VOY. ENT and VOY are handy abreviations but I don't think they should be used in a title. I am not sure exactly what to do about the original series. We could use TOS episode but I don't think it's that obvious. Perhaps we could just use Star Trek episode. What do others think? Marky1981 10:06, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

Can article titles be easily changed? We already have a bunch of articles and probably hundreds of links using the (ENT episode) format. Unless there is some global way of changing them, I think it's more trouble than it's worth at this point as we'll be left with a ton of redirects. 23skidoo 15:48, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
Having thought about it, I'd much rather have "TITLE (ST:TLA episode)" since "(TNG episode)" doesn't tell much to anyone outside of Star Trek what it is... Yeah yeah, I know. I proprosed the current format and self-passed it since there were no objections, but I think "ST:" should be appended just to make it more clear.
I agree the abbreviations TNG, DS9 etc. aren't very informative to people who do not know Star Trek well, but I don't think prefixing ST: helps much either! I think we'd have to go for '(Star Trek TNG episode)' etc., which is getting a bit long! Maybe just stick to what we have and be consistent Marky1981 00:09, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
As for the question at hand, I think the dab extension (e.g. "ENT episode") should be as short as possible simply to keep human errors down, etc.
I have just moved Broken Bow (ENT episode) to [[Broken Bow (Enterprise episode)] and fixed all the redirects! I am guessing this epsiode will be the most referred to, being the pilot. I think Enterprise is better than ENT as the initials ENT don't stand for anything like TNG and DS9 do. This is the same convention as Voyager episodes, so I think they should be changed slowly one at a time! Marky1981 00:12, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
I recommend checking with the discussion Cburnett posted, below, back in May to make sure there is consensus before going ahead and moving all the articles. There are a large number of links out there so it could take quite a bit of effort to change things. (I assume you are using the Move function to properly retain the History of the articles.) Cheers. 23skidoo 03:52, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
This discussion should really take place at: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Star Trek#Naming convention. Cburnett 19:24, May 31, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Five-Minute Enterprise

I've been including the satirised shortened versions of Star Trek: Enterprise for the first season already. I feel that it gives humourous insight on the show for fans of the show and Star Trek/science fiction in general, and certainly comes from a rather popular Star Trek satire site (originally called Five-Minute Voyager) and used to be transcribed to Trek Nation's episode listings of Enterprise. I'll continue on, unless others feel the inverse... DrWho42 02:44, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

  • The links should include a brief explanation of what the "Five minute" thing is. (i.e. "Five Minute Vox Sola - parody version") otherwise it might just confuse people who are perhaps expecting it to be an episode review. 23skidoo 02:59, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
  • That I'll do then... DrWho42 03:01, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Cool. I didn't realize there were Five Minute Doctor Whos now -- I'll have to check them out. 23skidoo 05:22, 2 June 2006 (UTC)


Anyone know which episodes Seth McFarlane appeared in? I'd like to know. Thanks.

[edit] Image for Future Tense

The image for the episode Future Tense is from In a Mirror, Darkly. Philip Stevens 10:22, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Naming conventions poll

There is an ongoing poll and Request for Comment at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (television)#RfC Episode Article Naming conventions which has direct relevance to how to title the Star Trek episode articles, meaning that based on how this poll comes out, many Star Trek episodes may get moved around. All interested editors are therefore strongly encouraged to participate, to ensure that your wishes are incorporated into the consensus process. --Elonka 22:14, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request Move

A Request Move affecting the naming of articles in this list is currently being conducted here. All opinions are welcome. --`/aksha 10:26, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discrepancy in Episode Numbering

I amended the entries for the episode "Fallen Hero" as per www.tv.com's episode guide, which shows it as episode 23, not 22 as originally shown in wikipedia. However, I then found the episode listing here in wikipedia which shows "Broken Bow" as episode 1, whereas www.tv.com shows it as a 2-episode story, episodes 1 and 2. Which numbering is officially correct, and what is the source for this? Rodparkes 09:04, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nielsen Ratings

Where did these numbers come from? I don't want to add citation requests for all of them, but the information needs to be verifiable and should be referenced. The fourth season does have ratings in one of the external links, but none of the others do, so are they correct and does anyone have sources? Phydend 02:20, 19 June 2007 (UTC)