Talk:List of Square Enix games

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[edit] List organization

Is there any better way to organize this list? I was thinking we could possibly put it into table format, like List of Virtual Boy games (a Featured List). If you think that tables are incompatible with big lists, see List of Nintendo 64 games. --Tristam 05:33, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Tristam has a good point. It is pretty sloppy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.34.26.1 (talk • contribs) 04:21, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

I've reorganized the list. It probably needs additional columns, but it's going to be a chore to find sources for North American and European (not to mention Australian?) publishers when they're different than the Japanese one. Kariteh 21:19, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I think the list needs some rethinking. Obviously more things need to be included, and I'm not sure the Jap release date is the only one to include. I'm going to start working on it a bit. Just wondering, why didn't you include some of the games? There are a few missing. Also, if we're going to preserve the system information, it's going to be hard to use the current tables. The release dates are different for each system. That's probably why it used to be organized by system. Khsater 14:25, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

What about something like this? Khsater 15:46, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Title Developer Release dates
3-D WorldRunner Square FDS: JAP00012-03-1987 1987 March 12

NES: NA00001-09-1987 1987 September 1
I left some games out? I don't know, apart from unreleased games I thought I had included everything. Although yeah, I didn't count ports and remakes. Not even sure why though. It's open for discussion. Also, I left out systems because I wasn't sure how to present them... There are so many (take Final Fantasy I for instance), and it will be very difficult to find exact dates for each system and to source them with reliable references... The big problem is that there's so much information we could include; there are different systems, different regions, different publishers per regions, etc. I tried something in my sandbox here but it's missing the systems. (Don't mind the overwhelming references in every rows and columns, I've put them so I'm sure I source everything, but we don't have to do that in the article's final version.) Kariteh 18:12, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Also, just wanted to note that finding the actual publisher's names for PS1 European games is really a chore... Some sources say Sony Computer Entertainment Europe for one game, other sources say Square Co. for the very same game, etc. Mobygames is also inconsistent. It's really confusing. Maybe SCEE and Square Co. were both the publishers for these European games?? Kariteh 18:15, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
You only included games that had wikipedia articles. It wouldn't be a problem, except the only source of information in english about some of these games is this list. I agree with you on the sourcing info. I find it hard to even prove some of these games exist. Is it necessary to use exact dates? Could we do just a year? I've seen multiple publishers on a lot of games so I don't see why the PAL games couldn't have both square and SCEE as publishers. I think that mostly has to do with porting the games to PAL systems. Khsater 18:32, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Aww, I forgot those Satellaview games and stuff, I see it now... Well, it's going to have to be fixed, hopefully with sources. As for the dates, we can probably put just the year. If this ever gets Featured List candidate, we'll see there if it's a problem or not I guess. Kariteh 21:02, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
How about something like this (the two first sections)? First year of release, Developer, First publisher, List of consoles of release, and Regions of release. For more details, the reader is free to click on the game's name anyway. Kariteh 12:48, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
Looks good to me. Khsater 14:39, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CT

Chrono Trigger was listed under Enix Games. I removed it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.12.224.98 (talk • contribs) 03:51, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merger with List of Taito games

Taito is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Square Enix now, so shouldn't the games go here now? JohnnyMrNinja 07:42, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't know what's the name, but I think Taito isn't totally merged into Square Enix, which means that their games are still released under the brand "Taito". So I think they should remain separate. Also I'm currently working on this list in my Sandbox, and I think maybe the Square, Enix and Square Enix games should be separated (not on different articles, but different sections here). Kariteh 08:15, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
If the Enix and Square games each have sections in addition to Sqare Enix wouldn't it make sense to have a Taito section? You are correct that the games still say "Taito" but they are as much a property as Final Fantasy. JohnnyMrNinja 10:35, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
Well, I really don't know. Maybe you should post about it on the WikiProject Video games talkpage to see if there's more input from more people there. Kariteh 11:54, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
I don't think so. SE games are under the SE label whereas Taito games are still Taito games...--Claude 04:33, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

OK, I withdrew the proposal. I guess I'll just reformat the Taito list to look like this one, and cross-link. As it is, it's looks sad (the Taito list, that is). JohnnyMrNinja 04:50, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Should The Last Remnant be on the list?

Or is there a separate list for upcoming Square Enix games? Just because a game isn't released yet doesn't mean it's not a Square Enix game! -Anthony- 07:06, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Okay but try to add the other unreleased games for completeness also. Kariteh 10:14, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Split

It looks like the article has reached the template usage limit as the bottommost references are broken. The list is currently uncomplete (games released on different consoles at different times must be separated instead of listed only once) and yet it's already 61 kb long. Perhaps it would be better to split this into a List of Enix games, List of Square games, and List of Square Enix games? This would allow for faster page loading and easier navigation, since currently it's kind of difficult to see in which table we are when we scroll the page quickly. Kariteh 10:14, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree and also Squaresoft and Enix were completely different companies so it is not fair to list all their games together like this. It would cut down on length and avoid confusion of the pre SquareEnix era. 76.174.57.133 20:19, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Alright, I've split the two sections. Kariteh 16:18, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tons of new games added; a lot missing

I just added tons and tons of new games to the list, but I recognize that a lot of them are still missing. Maybe I will add them later after some research, but some help would be lovely. Thanks! Shiggy 16:48, 23 September 2007 (UTC)