Talk:List of Spooks characters

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Alexander Siddig was actually in Episode 2 of Series 2.

[edit] Current/Former characters

This section violates WP:FICTION. Articles must be written in present continuous tense. None of the "former" characters were dead in the first episode for example. 59.167.45.168 (talk) 13:05, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Establishing Notability For Characters/Consensus to Redirect

Time to get the ball rolling here to restore a semblance of encyclopedic order. To summarise the existing problem, per our notability guidelines and policies (WP:N, WP:NOT#PLOT and WP:FICT):

  • Most individual character articles are written from an in-universe perspective and they fail to establish real-world significance, supported by verifiable and independent third party reliable sources.

It is currently the consensus view that Wikipedia is not a fansite and as a result the bulk of the information we provide needs to be centred on the real-world impact of individual fictional characters. This clearly is currently not the case, so remedial measures should be introduced.
Having looked for material about these characters to satisfy our notability and fiction criteria, my conclusion is that demonstrable real-world impact does not exist. But I hasten to add: this does not mean that this is a correct assertion.
Per the recent arbcom ruling, which exhorts:

The parties are instructed to cease engaging in editorial conflict and to work collaboratively to develop a generally accepted and applicable approach to the articles in question.

editors are invited to contribute to the question of how individual characters can be improved to meet our standards. What we do not need are !votes unsupported by reference to policy. What we DO need is:

  • agreement to redirect characters that fail to establish notability to the main Character list , or
  • clear demonstration that the assertion above, viz. demonstrable real-world impact does not exist is erroneous, in which case those character articles for which this is true should be retained.

It would be salutary if editors could weigh in with specific reference to our consensus notability and fiction policies, since that is where the crux of the solution lies. Providing clear links to sources that substantiate assertions of notability would be particularly commendable.
I would suggest that if, in a week, no clear demonstration of the existence of such sources can be adduced, these be redirected forthwith. Eusebeus (talk) 17:24, 21 April 2008 (UTC)