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[edit] Moved list

I've moved the list of enemies on Spider-Man supporting characters to this page. It will need cleanup. --HKMARKS 18:33, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Added TWENTY-ONE more villains

Okay, added the missing villains from Maximum Carnage (Shriek & Doppelganger), the Great Game (Justin Hammer, Polestar, Joystick, and El Toro Negro), the Legion of Losers (Grizzly & Gibbon), Seperation Anxiety (Scream, Riot, Lasher, Phage, & Agony), Shadrac (Overdrive), Solo, Rocket Racer, Walrus, and the Marvel Scarecrow.

I also relisted the Stacy twins under the comprehensive list.

Twenty-one new ones...not bad huh? ;-)

---User:ScreenWriterJeb

[edit] Do the Stacy children really warrant being under the greatest foes list?

And any way, shouldn't Gabriel be listed under Grey Goblin?

[edit] Why doesn't this article come up on search?

Why does this article not come up when you plug "Spider-Man villains" into the search engine?

It depends what search engine you're using. It's a fairly new page and sometimes it takes a while for such pages to get indexed by search engines like Google. In addition, once they're indexed, more popular pages that have been around longer will show up earlier in the search results. Category:Spider-Man villains is the second Google result. Also, some search engines might just not index Wikipedia pages. In that case it won't show up at all.
If you didn't find it in the Wikipedia search function, though, you might have just misspelled something. It was the first result for me. -HKMARKS 03:10, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cardiac

I remember a villain named "Cardiac" from one of the Spider-Man collectible card series. I think his power was to cause heart attacks. Was he just a one-shot or what? I remember I liked his costume: blue with white lines (reminiscent of EKG lines), and a cudgel. Can anyone help me out on this? --NewtΨΦ 16:03, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind, I found him here Cardiac (comics), but that article is new since I last checked. --NewtΨΦ 16:05, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jack O' Lantern

Why is Jack O' Lantern listed as one of Spidy's greatest foes? The article on Jack himself proclaims that he was a small time villian. --71.109.37.168 23:19, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Two reasons, probably: one, the first (Jason Macendale) became the Hobgoblin and was definitely not small time, and the (Daniel Berkhart) became Mysterio, also not small time. Two: the page needs to be entirely reorganized. -HKMarks 02:51, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cardiac merge

Per WP:WAF and WP:NOT. There's little more than plot summary in Cardiac (comics), which can be pared down to about a paragraph worth of information to add to the character's entry on this list. --NewtΨΦ 12:38, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

  • Condense and merge --NewtΨΦ 12:38, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Condense but don't merge --HKMarksTALKCONTRIBS 15:25, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Condense but don't merge --Mrph 10:16, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

  • While I think this should be merged, it may be better to merge with Spider-Man supporting characters. --NewtΨΦ 12:43, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
  • It should not be merged. If it's not clear if he's a villain or supporting character, he can't just be merged with one over the other. Also, he's been a Thunderbolt. Too much history for a merge. --HKMarksTALKCONTRIBS 15:25, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

There absolutely should not be a merge. This page is a list of Spider-Man villains, not a place to put in complete articles about them. Cardiac is already listed and linked. The idea that the two should be merged us a joke.Jayunderscorezero 02:33, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Added two

I just added Scorpion and Hydro-Man to the list. Anyone have any objections to those two? 22:17, 26 October 2006

[edit] Added a really bad one

The Fifth Avenue Phantom is probably the worst of the '67 animated series' villains.

[edit] Chance

There's a villain named Chance who fought Spider-Man in The Amazing Spider-Man #299 and #336. He's a mercenary and his name is Nicholas Powell.

[edit] Why are they There?

What are Doctor Doom, Black Cat, and Fortunato doing in their, or at the very least in the big tables? I mean, possibly Fortunato, and possibly Doctor Doom, but Black Cat?--Mullon 05:20, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Whats up with the photos?

Off the top of my head... Vulture--Surely we can find a better one than the beaten up version from Civil War
Sandman--Can we find one where he's not melting?
Lizard--WTF? Is this even Curt Connors's lizard?
Doctor Octopus--Why is Doc Ock from a different continuity here?
Rhino--Why is Rhino from a different continuity here?
Green Goblin II--Why in God's name is the movie version here?
Venom--It should be pretty obvious what I'm going to say here.

I'll attempt to change it later...but is it so hard to find ones from the 616 universe, which is what this article is about?--CyberGhostface 01:13, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Morbius the Living Vampire

is Morbius the Living Vampire a villain, because in its article it says he is an anti-hero, so shouldn't he be removed from hereGman124 14:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

no it's not a list of spidey's villains. It's a list of spidey's enemies. If it were a list of villains then we'd need to take Venom away too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.98.227.10 (talk) 12:20, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

i think Morbius should be added Venom was an anti hero and hes on here. So if you dont have Morbius then you shouldnt have Venom. Edaldren (talk) 23:44, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup needed

The "complete list" probably should go. I don't see how it's useful in the long run. The made-for-tv list probably should go. Either could be cleaned and condensed I suppose, but as of now: it's a cluttered list mess. RobJ1981 06:07, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Aren't there ANY female Spider-Man villains?

Or is the daughter of the burglar the closest the series gets? 68.219.105.76 02:04, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Nope, there's quite a few actually. Most notable are Shriek and Calypso, but there's also Scorpia, White Rabbit, Stunner, Delilah, and a few others. Nyssie 02:12, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
Don't forget Lady Octopus and the new, from-the-future Hobgoblin. Notthegoatseguy 21:22, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ben Parker's killer & Spider-Man 3

(1) Why talk about the novelization of Spider-Man 3 now that the actual film has been released? (2) In the Spider-Man 3 version of events, there is no speculation as to whether or not Marko/Sandman killed Uncle Ben. The man confessed to Peter's face. 165.230.68.206 22:06, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Also regarding Spider-man 3, they display the burglar's full name on screen. I believe it is Dennis Carradine. Surely this is as worthy of notice as is the mention from the video game where his name is identified as "Spike".24.192.245.240 23:57, 8 May 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Alistair Smythe and Scorpion

Alistair Smythe is put in the wrong place. He first appered in ASM ANNUAL 19 (mid 80's) and should be between Hobgoblin and Venom, not from the 1960's! Also why use a Venom Scorpion picture?

Okay i've put Alistair in the right place. We still need a new picture for Scorpion and how about an entry for Spencer Smythe and the Enforcers?

[edit] Morlun?

I haven't read Spiderman in a few years, so I've missed this Morlun fellow, so I'm just curious if he actually qualifies among the likes of the hobgoblin, mysterio, and Venom.... If such a recent one is going to be used, why not someone like Kane from the clone saga, or

Also, why are both Harry and Norman Osborn listed seperate, but none of the later Green Goblins or other Hobgoblins are seperately listed. The second Venom (who lasted how many appearances before the symbiote got bored of him) is listed as a minor... Odd? And "Ringer" or "Armada"? Are these really notable members of Spidey's Rogues? There have to be a number of more memorable and more often appeared villains in Spidey books. TheHYPO 03:36, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Have to agree. Harry as the Green Goblin is much more than someone else taking on the same costume et al of another villain (as with Tarantula, Hobgoblin and others) - a key part of the conflict is the posthumous (as we thought at the time) influence of Norman. Will make the change now. Timrollpickering 00:07, 24 October 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Hyrdo-Man and Macendale (Hob Goblin II)

They might be considered main villians. Hydro-Man would likely be a choice for the sinister 6 if they were to do another movie. And Macendale portrayed the Hob Goblin in the cartoon series which consenquently is the Hob Goblin the general public remembers.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.22.189.106 (talk) 17:40, 14 May 2007 (UTC).

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[edit] Villain entry that needs fixing

I removed a section from the "Minor Villains" section that was majorly screwing with the formatting. Here's the original entry:

R-boy|mega threat (comics) after the young boy of 12 years old was hit by toxic barrels that carried negetive energy, Ricky Pannaman found him self in the same state as Daredevil, blind. he later learnet he could shoot webbing from his wrist, sight like Daredevil, make his knuckles flame when putting his hands into the rock on posistion, enhanced strengh and speed, morph into any animal of his choice and make his soul come out of his skin leaving his body in a frozen state and taking control of his soul. His soul can fly and pass through solid objects

And here's a cleaned-up version:

"Ricky Pannaman was only twelve when he was hit by barrels containing negative energy, which blinded him. Later, he learned he had gained various powers, including enhanced strength and speed, the ability to shoot webbing from his wrist, the ability to see like Daredevil, the abilty to make his knuckles flame when putting his hands into the "rock on" position, the ability to morph into any animal of his choice and the ability to leave his body in a ghostly form, leaving his body in a frozen state. In his ghostly form, he can fly and pass through solid objects."

Personally, I think it sounds like somebody's fantasy. But if it's real, it can be re-added.

69.141.234.101 05:00, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Questions

Couple of symbiote related questions:

  • Why isn't scream listed in the minor villains section? She's had more apparences than most of the other villains in that section.
  • Why is Venom 2 listed on the minor villains table? He was only in one issue and hen died. He shouldn't be on a table
  • Menace is listed as one of spider-man's greatest foes... He hasn't even appeared yet. What's the dealio?

81.98.227.10 (talk) 22:40, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Morbious over Macendale?

Morbious a major villian? Thats pushing it, I'd include Morlun, Hydro-Man, and definetly Macendale before Morbious. When peopel think of Hob Goblin most people think of Macendale.

Are you serious? Morun before Morbius? That's radiculous. Morbius has been a recurring spider-man villain since 1971. Morlun lasted 5 years and was killed. No way should he be classed as a major villain ifmorbius is not.80.5.140.139 (talk) 15:49, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Venom, a villain?

When I read the instructions of how to transform the toyversion of venom into a three headed serpent, Venom was mentioned as a hero. User:Puncharoo Read my page first 20:07, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Merger proposal

I believe the article Menace (comics) should be merged into this list. The article describes a new character who is not notable outside the fantasy world as of yet. If he becomes notable in the following years, then it won't be an issue to split the article out agin, but most characters do not make it to notable. Until then, this article an others like it are better served in a singular article that lists ALL the enemies, and have redirects when proper. --- Paulley (talk) 17:15, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

  • Keep Seperate, mergeing into a list of enemies to one character in particluar(Spider-Man) is near impossible for Marvel Characters. All characters interact with each other and bounce from hero to villian and back again all the time. Updating which character appears on which list of another character is the most counter productive thing one could possibly suggest. -- 69.182.199.231 (talk) 08:44, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
it works for the other fifty villains on the list especially as this character has yet to appear outside this one comic or interact with any other leading superheroes.. he is as tis article name suggests just a Spider-Man enemy. --- Paulley (talk) 10:27, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge The reasoning behind merging non-notable villians is to be able to create content on them in the proper context. A new or minor villian can't support their own article, which is why so many end up and get deleted in AFD. To prevent info loss, merging is the only solution. At such a time that they are deemed notable (and this DOESN'T mean important enough to just fans...) then you can merge the section back into a full article. Not every detail of every story, or every bad guy in every series (comic book or otherwise) passes notability requirements here. In fact, most don't. Otherwise, we spend a lot of time arguing in AFD, when in fact, merging would create better context for the villian, and make it a better article.
    • As a side note, it is NOT an insult to say a character is "not notable". It is a definition as defined by the actual policies here, not a personal opinion on the quality of the character. We need to get passed personal feelings and use the objective standards that ARE the guidelines on Wikipedia. PHARMBOY (TALK) 14:40, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge The character has done nothing significant as of yet, he does not warrant his own article. If he happens to spear head a marvel event, then i would suggest giving him his own article, simply out of notability. Rau J16 04:43, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge Minor villain as of yet. If he becomes a recurring foe or the center of a major story arc, then he'll probably deserve one. Until then, make mine Merger! EvilCouch (talk) 10:55, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge Character just debuted. Just from what I can glean from online sources, all the reliable out-of-universe references available would probably only warrant a paragraph. WesleyDodds (talk) 09:06, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge As of now he isn't that notable. If he becomes a significant recurring character then he should have his own article.--CyberGhostface (talk) 17:27, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Article merged here (spider-man enemies) as he is yet to be linked to the Green Goblin other than his use of similar transport --- Paulley (talk) 13:08, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Minor characters

I was looking over the page, and see that many minor characters have been merged in here. I wanted to suggest that these many character bios be transwikied, before they are trimmed or deleted, as they are not really in the proper format for list page like this. - 66.109.248.114 (talk) 22:29, 20 February 2008 (UTC).

By all mean copy the information to a Marvel wiki... the idea of moving them here was to stop their complete deletion. -- Paulley (talk) 18:46, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rearrange the list

This article should be rearranged so that the characters are listed in a logical fashion, either by debut or alphabetically. This whole "Major/minor villain" business is wholly subjective and not a good way to arrange a list. WesleyDodds (talk) 23:09, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. -66.109.248.114 (talk) 23:37, 29 February 2008 (UTC).

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[edit] Major vs Minor

Hey guys, I was just wondering how do you define a "major" enemy or a "minor" enemy of Spideman. Bobisbob (talk) 21:44, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Merge Blood Spider

  • nomination - This is minor a throwaway character that only appeared in one issue of the Amazing Spider-Man, an no subsequent appearances; in addition the character was a henchman to the Taskmaster (not the featured villian in the issue, he was a henchman to the henchman of the storyline). Too minor of a character even to be considered a minor character, I pose a redirect to enemies with a brief line detailing his appearance and Bagley's art. -Sharp962 (talk) 03:08, 25 April 2008 (UTC).
I could not agree more. Lots42 (talk) 04:14, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Consensus to merge. -66.109.248.114 (talk) 22:33, 29 May 2008 (UTC).

[edit] Unmerge Batwing?

Well not yet, at least. It turns out that he will appear in Avengers: The Initiative #13 as one of the newest recruits. [1] I think we can assume that, after the issue comes out, he will be appearing more in the series and may make a worthwhile standalone article. 204.153.84.10 (talk) 15:45, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jackal, Morbius??

Why isnt the Jackal on here he started clone saga that went from 70s into 90s pretty important villain along with Morbius who has been a ongoing spidey foe since 71 i think Edaldren (talk) 23:51, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] What the hell happened?

I added some names to this list a year or two ago, all of them enemies of Spider-Man, but now they are removed and the article is more messy than ever. I would really like to know what's going on inside the head of some of those who edits the articles here. 84.48.35.203 (talk) 22:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)