Talk:List of Soviet Army divisions 1989–91

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[edit] Zapas

Re: 'Spare' division (cadre?), Spare is the literal translation of the Russian zapas. Zapas simply means reserve. It is not a status of the unit, but rather its personnel. The unit can never be in reserve because neither Soviet Union nor Russian Federation have such a thing. The personnel just go on the reserve rolls, and for officers and NCOs this means they add 'v zapase' to their rank (e.g. kapitan v zapase). The unit itself changes readiness status from A, to either B (Б), V (В) or G (Г). This means a higher degree of equipment conservation, lower training and operational performance, etc. The units that became bases are however another matter. They have become equipment conservation facilities. This means they have no reserve personnel assigned to them in peacetime, and are manned by a security and administrative detachment only. This is not a new experience for the Army, although not on this scale.--Mrg3105 (talk) 10:14, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that - that clears up, mostly, a question I've had for ages. Had a good handle on the VKhVTs but not the 'Spare' divisions. What's the source for your information? Buckshot06 (talk) 04:23, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Its just one of those things every one knows. My father was a sergeant v zapase until we migrated. His first division was in Trans-Caucasus, he was then called up for a free trip to Czechoslovakia (never made it in though), and he was called up again 3 days before we were supposed to fly out; he said no thanks. Let me look for a source you can use though ok? Alternatively you can just say "Greg said so" ;O)--Mrg3105 (talk) 08:11, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Beatification drive

Are there plans to eventually add the various unit awards to the articles like the Guards badge and the Orders?--Mrg3105 (talk) 01:21, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

If you mean putting them in this list, no. If you mean creating an article for each one of these divisions, with appropriate links to Order of Suvorov, Order of Kuznetsov, Order of the Red Banner etc, maybe, as part of the ten-year plan... Buckshot06 (talk) 01:25, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

No, I meant adding the images to the unit articles. I just used talk here as a central reference point--Mrg3105 (talk) 01:28, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

It would be a nice idea. Why don't you create a small thumbnail version of each award and fiddle round with one particular division - 2nd Guards Taman would do, I suppose, and put them in the top-right hand corner (thumb|right somethingorother) Buckshot06 (talk) 01:32, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Where do I upload it to when I'm done?--Mrg3105 (talk) 01:47, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

You only have to resize the existing image. Just steal it from the Order of the Red Banner, for example, article and fiddle with the size - change it to 150px or something Buckshot06 (talk) 01:49, 26 December 2007 (UTC)