Talk:List of Skins episodes

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[edit] Grammar

I'm sure this needs some work... 11 "Michelle's Dating Video[9]" "Sketch" This video features Michelle making a video for a dating website on behalf of her mother. Some of the traits she list this man must not have are hairy bums, commenting on breasts, weird gnome fetishes or skin tight green jeans. Michelle also states numerous times there must be no ogling of schoolgirls. It should be noted that this video was released exclusively on Myspace

The man must not have hairy bums? I'm not sure how to phrase this.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Petronella pettigrew (talk • contribs) 13:03, 29 February 2008 (UTC) 

There is a lot of bad grammar. We need the edit function back on the main article! :-\ User:Johnthepcson —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.148.50.249 (talk) 19:18, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Episode synopses

They read like C4 press releases, are they being cut and pasted from somewhere or what? 86.145.60.76 19:31, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

If you look at the C4 website [1], they are. AuroraD 00:54, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Episode 9

Is it really Abigail-centric? There was nothing to do with her in the preview, I think it's an Anwar one... especially as it has his parents in it... -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 23:10, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree. I think thats why soemoen else removed it, and then it was readded. It does seem Anwar centralised.... Reedy Boy 10:36, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
And does that mean that the Maxxie/Anwar one was actually just Maxxie's one? -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 11:33, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
There wasn't really a lot about Anwar in the Maxxie/Anwar episode. However, I don't know if you've noticed but instead of printing the centralised character's name at the start of each episode, the last picture of the title sequence just before the title 'Skins' changes with each episode and is a picture of the centralised character for that episode, have a look. The Maxxie/Anwar episode show a wide angle shot of both of them. AuroraD 00:51, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Does that make episode 8 a Tony/Effy episode?~ZytheTalk to me! 13:41, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Episode titles

Are we going with "Maxxie" for the epiode formerly known as "Maxxie and Anwar" and "Anwar" as the one formerly known as "Abigail"? We need to reach a consensus... Actually, where do these episode names come from? Are they officially confirmed or just unofficial names? Where do they come from? -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 20:09, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I think its sorta been unofficially decided... Ie, the main characters... The Maxxie and Anwar episode wasnt really a Maxxie episode, so would be quite wrong to name it as so. We could do Skins Season 1 Episode x ? Reedy Boy 20:12, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
If it's unofficial it should be changed unless a source for the names can be provided... they may be on the DVD cover, we don't know yet, though I think it best to revert to "Skins episode x" until we know for sure... -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 20:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, thats how Channel 4 have it Reedy Boy 20:19, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Am I misremembering, didn't the episodes specifically say "Maxxie and Anwar", "Chris", "Effy" etc. but this one didn't? It just had a montage showing "the boys".~ZytheTalk to me! 11:54, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

They don't have titles, so I think we should move the episode articles to "Episode 1 (Skins)" etc. -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 17:30, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Did the E4 site used to give the episodes name, but since changed them to just numbers?~ZytheTalk to me! 17:55, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

There was never any names, they have always been numbered - there's no official source to suggest that those are the episode names. -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 18:35, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I guess they were all just good guesses. Go ahead and move them. We'll have to change every instance of the episode names and re-write a bit on the main page.~ZytheTalk to me! 11:08, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
I've done most of the moving, and changing around in the articles and the episode list - its just the other instances that need to be changed. -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 19:18, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Currently, there is no published, reliable source for the above claims about episode titles. ("Channel 4" is not a source that someone can check properly.) Wikipedia requires sources for such information, not just consensus among us editors. There is a reliable source for the character-naming of the episodes — IMDb. Unless someone can counter with published, reliable, verifiable sources for the claim of "number as name", I plan to change all the episode titles to the ones documented at IMDb. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 06:30, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

The Channel 4 official website documents them as numbered episodes. See here. IMDb is erroneous, and misleadingly gives Episode 9 the title "Abigail", when the character of Abigail didn't even appear in the episode. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Trampikey (talkcontribs) 09:12, 5 April 2007 (UTC).
Is there any reason we're not going with the episodes names that are given on the DVD set (which were the names of characters)? Planewalker Dave (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 19:42, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
We're going with the only viable source for the titles (The Official Website) and as those are the names given there that is how they shall stay.Benv-b92 (talk 19:13, 24 May 2008 (UTC).

[edit] Short synopses

Are we allowed to use the summaries from the official site or are they copyrighted or something? The ones at the moment are a bit basic. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lozregan (talkcontribs) 22:48, 1 April 2007 (UTC). Lozregan 22:49, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

We have to write our own. - Peregrine Fisher 22:50, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Also, why is there a list of unseen episodes, do these episodes exist? 
And if they dont why are they included in such detail in comparison to the rest of the article?

-they do, they are on the skins E4 website under 'videos'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.108.73.102 (talk) 08:17, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Episode notability

All of the episodes of this series fail the notability guidelines for television episodes. The way for these articles to be improved is through the inclusion of real-world information from reliable sources to assert notability. That is unlikely to happen, and these only have certain bad aspects (though all may not apply) like containing overly long or one sentence plot summaries, trivia, and quotes. Per that, they need to be a small part of this list.

If there are no objections, these will be redirected soon. Otherwise, discussion will take place here. Please remember that this is not a vote. If you like the information, that's fine and dandy, but your opinion doesn't really count towards anything. The only opinions that do count are ones that that lean towards the inclusion of real world information. TTN 23:00, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I think removing the episode summaries was unnecessary and pedantic. I'm not going to get bogged down in arguing about Wikipedia policies. I'd just like to say that I think that all you've done is make Wikipedia less informative. Lozregan (talk) 00:52, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Episode Pages

Why on earth are the episode pages being deleted when there part of WikiProject British TV shows? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Benv-b92 (talkcontribs) 15:53, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Just because something falls under a wikiproject, it doesnt assert their notability. Reedy Boy 18:21, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Not having the individual episodes pages

  • I don't know why the episodes of skins has been merged into one pafe, with just a small sypnosis on each episode. I does not make sense as pages were deleted because the individual pages, such as "music featured in skins" etc. How is it fair that big programmes, like 'lost' have their own individual episode pages, is there a rule on this? I think there SHOULD be a vote, or even if the person who is responsible for changing the format make their decisions clear, as currently the whole of skins on wikipedia is NOT useful. A one sentenced sypnosis is not useful. What I call useful, and what was, is individual pages devoted to each episode, showing, guest appearences, trivia, soundtrack. etc. I don't want to sound all moany, but I hope this will convey other peoples thoughts, including mine. Tomcowie (talk) 15:47, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
  • This is completely right, the show is fairly notable it's part of the Wiki project things, it should have episode pages, I even tried to make some but someone deleted them without saying why.
  • Actually I understand now why they were taken off. I understand that the information was not relevent for an encyclopedia, but... I think information on the pages were insightful, even though they would've been classed as trivia. Is there any way that these can be restored under proper guidelines? I would personally liike to be part on overseeing it. (talk) 00:15, 16 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.141.215.37 (talk)
  • I could understand the pages being removed if they were just trivia, but at least with the pages I created, the only information added (at that time) was the air date the cast and a short synopsis, that doesn't seem very trivia like to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Benv-b92 (talkcontribs) 01:15, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Right, I have been and done the appropriate research and if the page gets so detailed it is overly long then the rules say each episode SHOULD have it's own page,Read here so let's get detailing this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Benv-b92 (talkcontribs) 04:56, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Just bring back the bloody episode pages! Duh! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.35.81 (talk) 15:00, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Please read Wikipedia:Television_episodes#Process_for_creating_articles_on_television_episodes. Also Lost has many articles that are featured articles such as Through the Looking Glass (Lost) Russell [ Talk ] 20:58, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

*Someone could always start a wikia wiki to put that extra info in... Actually there is one at http://skins.wikia.com ; but it's not that active. khlieeq tec 23:44, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

I totally agree with all of you (especially the one that said 'just bring back the bloody episode pages. Duh!') JUST DO IT, WON'T YOU!!!!! George.millman (talk) 12:22, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Really should have a page for each episode. Why some people in the minority keep deleting them is beyind me. - TC 14/04/08 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.208.98.59 (talk) 21:31, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] objection to the word "chavs" used in the episode guide

Can anyone explain why this word is necessary? Insulting stereotypes don't belong on wikipedia and I've never heard the stereotype used in the show itself. I'm removing it unless anyone has a good reason otherwise. Eica (talk) 23:33, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

The word has been used and a social group is not an insulting stereotype, the only change that should be applied would be using quote marks around the title.Benv-b92 (talk) 00:24, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 6th episode

How do we know that this episode revolve's around tony. Because didnt the first episode around Tony? [And Maxxie] So maybe we should just leave it blank for now. Only a suggestion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.145.242.100 (talk) 18:36, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Music

Where could you find a list of music listed in episodes? Is something that could be included by a smart and talented individual who's not lazy like me:D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.151.178.205 (talk) 22:22, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Titles...

Im pretty sure that the DVD lists the titles as such... Reedy 23:19, 1 June 2008 (UTC)