Talk:List of Sex and the City episodes

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Contents 1 Format 2 Question on Fair Use 3 Infobox color 4 Writer & Director

[edit] Format

I'm wondering what people think about the format of this list. The standard format does not include the writer and director on the list, but I think it looks neater, and its the standard used for most other episode lists. For comparison, see the samples below.

	Title	Director	Writer(s)	Original Airdate	#
	"Anchors Away"	Charles McDougall	Michael Patrick King	21 July 2002	67
	Carrie realizes her relationship with New York City is as dysfunctional as her relationship with men. Charlotte decides she needs to distance herself from her former life as Mrs. Trey MacDougal. Miranda tries to adjust to her new life with her baby, Brady Hobbes. Samantha gets phone calls from Richard begging her to take him back. Guest Stars: David Eigenberg, James Remar, Lynn Cohen

Screenshot	Title	Original airdate	#
67	"Anchors Away"	21 July 2002
Carrie realizes her relationship with New York City is as dysfunctional as her relationship with men. Charlotte decides she needs to distance herself from her former life as Mrs. Trey MacDougal. Miranda tries to adjust to her new life with her baby, Brady Hobbes. Samantha gets phone calls from Richard begging her to take him back.

If I don't hear back soon, I'll go ahead and change it. I think it looks neater, and we can reserve information about guest stars, writers, and directors for the episode pages.Sarahjane10784 20:27, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

I think that it's a waste of space to devote an entire line (or almost an entire one) to the title, when none of them come close to that long. Also, the way it is makes it very easy to get a list of who wrote/directed which episodes. Not to mention the fact that we only have pages for a fifth of the episodes at this point. As for paragraph form vs. bulleted list, I think that in this case the list actually works better due to the nature of the show. For most episodes, the women have four similar but completely independent plots, so a single line for each woman makes it easier to distinguish between story lines. A paragraph form would work better if the stories were more interconnected.

I like the bar separating the episodes, the title in bold, and removing the guest stars. We should defiantly do these three things. Perhaps we could use a different color for each season for the bar. Removing the guest stars looks like it would leave much less space underneath the images.

You mentioned that this is the standard for episode lists. What are some other shows that follow this method? I haven't seen any kind of standardization among episode guides.

You might also want to bring this up at the Sex and the City main article, since it probably has more people watching it and the discussion page. You might get more opinions that way. Koweja 22:05, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

You can go Wikipedia:WikiProject List of Television Episodes to see the discussion of a standard format for all lists of television episodes. At Template talk:Episode list, they discuss the inclusion of writer and director, but decide against it because it makes the page too cluttered (especially, I assume, for shows with multiple writers). For examples, see List of Gilmore Girls episodes, List of Scrubs episodes, List of South Park episodes, etc.

Since most of the titles are short, we could include the writer and director. I would also argue that the stories are fairly interconnected, so I think the single summary is neater than the bulleted style. The bulleted style also takes up more space. Sarahjane10784 22:45, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Another idea, to throw it out there, is just include it in the summary text. For example:

Screenshot	Title	Original airdate	#
67	"Anchors Away"	21 July 2002
Directed by: Charles McDougall, Written by: Michael Patrick King Carrie realizes her relationship with New York City is as dysfunctional as her relationship with men. Charlotte decides she needs to distance herself from her former life as Mrs. Trey MacDougal. Miranda tries to adjust to her new life with her baby, Brady Hobbes. Samantha gets phone calls from Richard begging her to take him back.

-- Ned Scott 23:35, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

I've redone the 5th and 6th season tables. I couldn't put the bullets into the summary section, but I left the character names in bold. Let me know what you think about this. I've also listed the Director and Writer(s) as sections in the table, but I also like the idea of including them in the summary. What do other people think? One problem with including them as separate categories is that often there are multiple writers. Sarahjane10784 23:51, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

I like changes, with the character names in bold you kind of get the best of both words (bullets and paragraphs). Good idea, and thanks for making the changes. Koweja 00:01, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

I support the writer and director appearing in the headers instead of the summary only because the Title header is longer than it needs to be. In the case of multiple writers, we just need to be generous about column width. If the line gets too thick, we can stick with only the last names if they've already been mentioned before. --Will2k 20:09, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question on Fair Use

From the image pages for each episode:

There are just under 100 episodes listed, and a growing number of pictures. Is ~100 pictures a not a "limited number", or am I being too paranoid? Thanks, GChriss 06:32, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

If each use is a valid fair use then it shouldn't matter how many images there are. Although, all the images do need Fair use rationale written for each screenshot in order to copy with Wikipedia's fair use policies. For example, Image:Kamisama Kazoku ep03.jpg. -- Ned Scott 07:50, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox color

I find the color used in the individual episode infoboxes makes it hard to read black text on it. How do others feel? - Peregrinefisher 19:50, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

I changed it to the toned down pink used on the Season Six table. Is this good, or would something non-pink be better? Koweja 20:36, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

That looks great. Pink isn't my favorite color but in this case I think it's appropriate. - Peregrinefisher 20:46, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Writer & Director

I think we should take the writer and director out of the boxes that have individual episode pages. The info will be one click away, and the short summaries look best when they are about 3 lines long. - Peregrinefisher 06:54, 23 October 2006 (UTC)