Talk:List of Royal Navy shore establishments

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Does anyone know of the existence of a former shore establishment that went by the name of HMS Sea Eagle? Douglasnicol 21:53, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 HMS President III? 2 Merge proposal 3 Former Establishments 4 HMS Caroline

[edit] HMS President III?

HMS President III is supposedly described as the accounting base for gunners on Defensively Armed Merchant Ships in Lt Cdr. Warlow's Shore Establishments of the Royal Navy. But I have not seen that source myself. Can anybody confirm this? Abu ari 17:13, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge proposal

Support: Self-evident. Is there anybody out there with time on their hands? John Moore 309 16:38, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I think there is more mileage in mergine this with the other article, since there is already more content there. It's a question of semantics though, I prefer the other title.ALR 15:23, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Former Establishments

Is there a comprehensive list of former short establishments anywhere? I am sure I came across one on the Internet some time ago but can't find anything now. Should this section be expanded to try and collect together a definitive list? Also is there a list anywhere of Ports as in "Port A", "Port Z" etc --jmb 12:26, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] HMS Caroline

Talking to old sailors I have gained the impression that during World War II that HMS Caroline (a real ship, with no engines in WWII) took over many land-side buildings and offices in its role as the Royal Navy HQ in Belfast Harbour. Does anybody know any more about this and if true would it come under the heading "shore establishment"?--Thefrood 09:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I get the impression that quite a number of shore establishments started out as a ship moored in the harbour then moved to a suitable building and the same name used. Stornoway was HMS Mentor, I think there was a ship moored in the harbour initially but they moved to Lews Castle and kept the same name. I also notice that some of the Coastal Forces shore establishments had a series of numbers suggesting that there were annexes in other areas which were given sequential numbers. --jmb 11:05, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

As Belfast developed into a major naval base during World War II, it outgrew the confines of HMS Caroline herself and occupied different establishments in various parts of the city. Eventually several thousand ratings were wearing Caroline cap tallies. The first such establishment was set up in the Belfast Custom House. Later, Belfast Castle was taken over and included a radio station.

There were depth charge pistol and “Hedgehog” repair workshops associated with Caroline some of which would have been on the quays beside her berth in Milewater Basin.

During the early part of the war when RAF Belfast occupied Sydenham (Belfast harbour) airfield, FAA personnel based there were were lodged under HMS Caroline. In 1943 the airfield was transferred to the Admiralty and commissioned as HMS Gadwall. Geologue 13:36, 6 September 2007 (UTC)