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moved from Romanian-American. bogdan ʤjuʃkə | Talk 08:51, 16 July 2005 (UTC)


Adrian Sfarti (Ati3414 and 67.170.224.36 ... User_talk:Ati3414), I'm sorry to tell you, but "Socrunchy" is not Kevin Mantey. Nor is the user "Sfarti". From all your craziness, you have obtained a kind of reputation as a funny "egotistical fool". The very fact that you keep trying to add your own name to the list of Notable Romanian-Americans just fuels this. Let me also point out that it is against Wikipedia rules to try to publicize yourself. Gregory9 02:58, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

There is also a rule against "sock puppets" "gregory" aka Kevin Mantey. There are also rules against vandalism.


Adrian- removing your name from a place where it doesn't belong does not constitute vandalism. When adding your own name to the "list of notable Romanian Americans", please consider the things that Wikipedis is not. Refer, specifically, to the note on self-promotion.Socrunchy 03:40, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

There is also a rule against "sock puppets" "Socrunchy" aka Kevin Mantey. You should know about them: [[1]] There is also a rule against vandalism.

Sorry, I'm not Kevin Mantey. And if you're assuming that everyone who removes your name from the list is Kevin Mantey, then you should be accusing Royboy and lulianu as well. Furthermore, it hardly seems beneficial to you to bring up the rule on sock puppets, given that Ati3414 and 67.170.224.36 take turns adding Sfarti's name to the list, and have both had links removed on the "Age of the Earth" and "Half Life" pages to some amateur calculations by a certain Adrian Sfarti.Socrunchy 18:45, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Please stop accusing us of vandalism. We haven't removed or defaced information from WP; merely corrected an attempt at self-promotion. Note that at least three different people have removed this name from the list. Socrunchy 21:54, 13 March 2006 (UTC)


Adrian, just because several people don't agree with you doesn't immediately mean they are all one person. Not only that, but you seem to be back to your old tricks where you somehow "forget how to read" ... for if you actually read the Wikipedia rules, you will see that in regards to this article, no one (not even you) has violated the 3 revert rule which states that "Do not revert any single page in whole or in part more than three times in 24 hours." And if you actually read the rules you'd see that you have violated them countless times with your self-promotion. Gregory9 23:49, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Gregory: it seems that Sfarti is not notable enough to have an article in Wikipedia. Filing a patent doesn't make you a noted inventor. bogdan 00:05, 14 March 2006 (UTC)


Having 23 awarded patents does. Especially when some of them are the foundation of the computers you are working on. Besides, "gregory" (Kevin Mantey) is just a "sock puppet" (alias "Socrunchy) who has a grudge from a previous encounter where he was caught cheating and whose only intent is to mess with my posts. Neither "gregory" , nor "Socrunchy" have any posts of any value except for the vandalism ones.

Again, I'm not gregory/Kevin. I've had no previous encounters with you, so please spare me the delusions of persecution. Furthermore, as you've been using a sockpuppet on this very page, I fail to see how you believe that you benefit from arbitrarily accusing other people. If you check Wikipedia's standards for notability, you'll see that Adrian Sfarti does not belong on this list. The fact that you're adding yourself should be a good indicator.  :-P Socrunchy 01:56, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

You sure are. Look at your "contributions and at your registration date [[2]] vs [[3]]. Up to your standard tricks, Kevin. You are only fooling yourself. Take your grudges elsewhere.

Your insistance on imagining that gregory and I are the same person doesn't help you. Pretend what you will, several different people have still removed your name from this list, starting back in November. Are we all the same person? Do we all have some mysterious grudge against you? The fact that you shouldn't be using Wikipedia for self-promotion is unrelated to who it is that's correcting the page. Socrunchy

You are a bad liar, Kevin. They don't teach computer science too well at UIUC, the computer specifics give you away every time. That's why you got none of the 4000$ that you were hoping to scam.


And, somehow, you've ruled out the possibility that more than one person at UIUC knows about you? Or are you just trying to distract us from the issue at hand (abuse of Wikipedia for self-promotion)?

Furthermore, if you're trying to establish yourself as notable, you might want to avoid making references to your irresponsible gambling habits. Socrunchy 03:48, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

You are a bad liar, Kevin. And a cheat as well. Get a life.
Sorry buddy. Believe it or not, I've only removed your name from this article once. Do you honestly believe that everyone that has removed you from the list is me? You need to stop and think: If the only way you can get on the list is to add yourself, do you really believe you are notable enough to be on the list? Wikipedia isn't for self promotion. Please stop trying to blame these problems on me. If you really want to explain to me why I'm wrong, I'm still looking forward to you coming out here and giving a speech. It will give you a chance to show me up in front of my peers if you really are correct... which I know you aren't. I, and many others here at UIUC, are looking forward to your visit. Gregory9 05:51, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Scratch that, I've now removed you for a second time. Gregory9 05:53, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Ethnicity lists discussion

Please see discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) for current discussion of a potential policy to apply to all ethnicity lists on Wikipedia, including this one. JackO'Lantern 20:33, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

I have sourced the list in accordance with Wikipedia's Original Research and Verifiability policies. Basically, anyone described by a reliable source as "Romanian" or "RomanianAmerican" (i.e. as opposed to "of Romanian descent", "Romanian mother", etc.) is on the list. Here are the few people I couldn't find anything for. If you have a reliable source that fits that please restore the names:

Mad Jack O'Lantern 08:38, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

We need explicit sources that call them "Romanian-Americans" (or of course, "Romanian"). We can't use our own opinion of what a Romanian-American is or should be, and we can't use Wikipedia articles as sources, either, only reliable external sources (for obvious reasons). Mad Jack O'Lantern 23:26, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

ok then , so you gave sources for each of them (almost), and why we cannot consider them notable Romanian-Americans????????????? And don't remove what I wrote because I can post them when I want, right?

a worried user 18 May 2006

You can't post personal attacks or profanity against other users - that's why I removed it. What is your question? I gave sources for the ones that were described as "Romanian" or "Romanian-Americans", so they're included. If you find anyone else described as "Romanian" or "Romanian-American" in a reliable source, they should also be included. Mad Jack O'Lantern 23:07, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Are u Romanian dude? Do you know how are Romanian names? If in the article is written, his/she is Romanian-American, that means he is. Or if your a fuck-head that doesn't know to read or you need reliable sources because your fuckin' brain is not able to judge, leave it like that,ok? all was ok here till you handicapated came here.

It doesn't matter what someone's last name is, or what their Wikipedia article says about them (unless that article sources that fact). I am strictly following the Verifiability and No original research policies that we must follow on Wikipedia. No personal attacks is also good. I won't revert your edits right now because I don't want to edge close to 3RR, but I will revert soon enough in accordance with Wikipedia policy. I've tried finding sources for the people who I removed, but couldn't. If you can find a source that describes them as what you want to call them, "Romanian" or "Romanian-American", then they should be re-added. Mad Jack O'Lantern 00:56, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes yes I believe you, you can't find something about them 'cause you don't want, not because there no sources about them. I inform your fucked brain that Google or Yahoo Research, and you can look there if you're not to stupid to see their names in the research, guy. You're so hypocritic, like a pig head.

[edit] People I removed

OK, here is why I removed the ones I did (I didn't look at them all):

  • Art Garfunkel - [4] - first of all, this is Wikipedia. I mean the source you gave is Wikipedia - it's a copy of our article circa January of this year. Second, it says he is of "Romanian Jewish descent". It doesn't say he's "Romanian-American" or "Romanian"
  • Adrian Zmed - same thing, [5] is a copy of Wikipedia
  • Gheorghe Gaston Marin - [6] Answers.com is, indeed, also a copy of Wikipedia, though one of the most obvious ones. Wikipedia has so many mirror sites out there

Mad Jack 21:35, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Red links

The problem is red links. If there's a red link, there is no article and therefore no way for the Wiki community to decide if the person is notable or not. Mad Jack 19:10, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed Moscovici

Lauren Bacall is notable, but Claudia Moscovici's references all traced back to her own pen. Her own Wikipedia article was deleted today. Gadgetry 00:55, 8 November 2006 (UTC)