Talk:List of Prime Ministers of Spain

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Proposal to move to List of Presidents of the Government of Spain or List of Prime Ministers of Spain:

Over-literal translation of presidente del gobierno. Needs to be moved to List of Prime Ministers of Spain. — Chameleon 17:47, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

I don't have strong feelings either way on this one, --SqueakBox 18:42, May 19, 2005 (UTC)

Prime Minister of the Government is just ridiculous and even worse than the literal President of the Government. —Cantus 08:02, May 20, 2005 (UTC)

I've moved to the more correct "President of the Spanish government," which is a literal translation of the Spanish "Presidente del gobierno español" [1]. —Cantus 08:11, May 20, 2005 (UTC)

What makes you think that a literal translation favouring the use of false cognates is more correct? — Chameleon 10:18, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
We're not dealing with false cognates here. —Cantus 12:31, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)
Yes we are. Presidente only means "president" when it refers to a head of state. Its primary meaning is "chairman", the presidente del gobierno being the chairman of the government — i.e. the Prime Minister. — Chameleon 12:51, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
President doesn't just mean head of state. Consider, for example, the use of president with regard to companies or universities. Jadedmaidn 21:18, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] List of Prime Ministers of Spain

The heads of government of Spain have only been "presidents of the government" (del gobierno) since Franco. From 1834 up to Franco they were "presidents of the council of ministers" (del consejo de ministros). I think the normal English rendering for both of these would be "prime minister". IMHO the title should be List of Prime Ministers of Spain, with redirects from the formal titles. Compare List of Prime Ministers of Italy (their official title is "president of the council of ministers"), and List of Prime Ministers of France (they were also "presidents of the council of ministers" until 1959). --Cam 21:16, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)

Indeed. — Chameleon 22:00, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Now fixed.
James F. (talk) 10:02, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] acting

What does "acting" mean here? --euyyn 18:10, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Mistake

There is a mistake, with the colours of the Presidents. Niceto Alcalá-Zamora y Torres has got red, and Manuel Azaña Díaz has blue. Felipe González and José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero have got red, and José María Aznar, blue. These colours aren`t true. Niceto Alcalá-Zamora wasn`t socialist, and Manuel Azaña wasn`t like José María Aznar. Azaña was socialist, and Aznar isn`t socialist. Alcalá-Zamora wasn`t socialist; he is oh right.