Talk:List of Prime Ministers of New Zealand

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[edit] Sortable table

Is there any value in the table being sortable? The only field for which I can see any value to sorting it at the moment is by party, since dates don't sort correctly without a bit of work reformatting them, and names would have to be reorganised to get them to sort by surname.-gadfium 03:44, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Not really. The new format is better. --Lholden (talk) 06:00, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pictures

I have sent an email to the office of the Prime Minister asking about the copyright status of all the pictures on the Former Prime Ministers section of the website, and requesting that all photos still under copyright be released under a GFDL-compatible license. --superioridad (discusión) 05:04, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

You're awesome. --Lholden (talk) 06:00, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Actually, I just realised that this is completely unnecessary. The official website of the New Zealand government says that:

Material on New Zealand government web sites is subject to Crown copyright protection or is licensed to the Crown. This material may be used, copied and re-distributed free of charge in any format or media. Where the material is used, the source and copyright status must be acknowledged (eg © Crown copyright). This permission does not extend to material on web sites linked to from newzealand.govt.nz. That material may only be used in accordance with the copyright notice on the web site concerned.

When I first read this, I misunderstood this to mean something else, but it applies to everything on govt.nz. So while I can't upload the pictures right now, since my internet doesn't work during primetime hours, I'll get started on that in a few hours. --superioridad (discusión) 06:43, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
I don't really understand why not, but this licence is not considered free enough for Wikipedia, so you will need to create a fair use rationale for each such image you upload (unless you get a GFDL or similar licence granted by the govt). Make sure to include the names of articles in which the image is used in your rationale.-gadfium 07:43, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Could you direct me to the source of that claim, gadfium? I sent an email to the relevant address asking for clarification on the status of derivative works and on using material for commerical purposes, which are the only things I could think of that might be objectionable, and there's still the request I made for the pictures to be released under one of the GFDL-compatible licenses, so I'll see how both of those avenues pan out. --superioridad (discusión) 09:51, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
See {{NZCrownCopyright}}, which clearly states a fair use rationale is required. See also the history of the talk page, which once listed those sites which used a permissive version of the licence, and those which did not. I would have thought that might be a good reason to split out a new template for those images which were free use, but instead the discussion was deleted. The template itself was nominated for deletion, but kept. None of this makes any sense to me, I just gave up uploading images to Wikipedia when licences like the permissive version of this became unacceptable.-gadfium 18:31, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

NZ Govt lawyers said the licence above was not intended to allow wholesale commercial exploitation. The Prime Minister's office still hasn't responded; I'm going to resend that email. --superioridad (discusión) 07:46, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Parliament

I want to add which parliament each PM presided over to the list, but I don't have the dates of formation/dissolution of each parliament. Could anyone direct me to a source that does? --superioridad (discusión) 10:17, 3 March 2008 (UTC)