Talk:List of Parliaments of England
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[edit] Reginald Bray
Speaker of the British House of Commons lists Reginald Bray as Speaker in 1496, yet this article shows no parliament nor speaker in that year. Which is correct? —Stormie 08:06, Oct 30, 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Interregnum Parliaments
I think there is a problem with the ordering of the Parliaments in this list at the end of the Interregnum. I think that there is one Parliament missing "Third Protectorate Parliament" 27 Jan- 22 Apr 1659 [1] and the ordering of the recall of the Rump and the Long Parliaments, "in May 1659, Richard was obliged to recall the Rump Parliament that his father had ousted in 1653"[2]. ". Monck arrived in London in February 1660 and secured the re-admission of MPs excluded since Pride's Purge. The restored Long Parliament voted to dissolve itself on 16 March 1660 and call new elections. [3]
Althougth I have used the same web site as a reference the ordering makes more sence than assuming that the long parliament was recalled and then the rump.
The List of Speakers of the British House of Commons gives these as the speakers between 1653 and 1661. I have put next to them what I think are the correct parliaments.
- 1653 Rev. Francis Rous -- Barebones Parliament (Little Parliament)
- 1654 - 1655 William Lenthall -- First Protectorate Parliament
- 1656 - 1658 Sir Thomas Widdrington Second Protectorate Parliament
- 1658 - 1659 Chaloner Chute -- Third Protectorate Parliament
- 1659 Sir Liselbone Long -- Deputy Speaker Third Protectorate Parliament
- 1659 Thomas Bampfylde -- Deputy Speaker and then Speaker Third Protectorate Parliament
- 1659 - 1660 William Lenthall -- Rump Parliament and Long Parliament
- 1660 Sir Harbottle Grimston -- Convention Parliament
- 1661 - 1671 Sir Edward Turnour -- Cavalier Parliament
Unless anyone objects or has any more information on the subject I am going to change this page to reflect the above. Another souce which has more details of the speakers and confirms the ordering of the Parliaments [4]:
- 3 Nov 1640 - 20 Apr 1653 Long Parliament (from 6 Dec 1648 Rump Parliament), London
- 4 Jul 1653 - 12 Dec 1653 Supreme Authority, Nominated Parliament, London
- 3 Sep 1654 - 22 Jan 1655 First Protectorate Parliament, London
- 17 Sep 1656 - 26 Jun 1657 Second Protectorate Parliament, session I, London
- 20 Jan 1658 - 4 Feb 1658 Second Protectorate Parliament, session II, London
- 27 Jan 1659 - 22 Apr 1659 Third Protectorate Parliament, London
- 7 May 1659 - 13 Oct 1659 Rump Parliament, London
- 26 Dec 1659 - 16 Mar 1660 Rump Parliament (from Feb 1660 Long Parliament), London
- 25 Apr 1660- 13 Sep 1660 Convention Parliament, London
--Philip Baird Shearer 11:52, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Convention Parliament of 1689
Should this really be described as a parliament of James II? It was summoned after he left the country, and its first act was to pronounce him deposed and make William and Mary King and Queen. It seems that it is more appropriately assigned to William and Mary. john k 07:55, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
- This is a good point. However I suppose in theory King James II was still the King until the Convention definitively decided he had abdicated (although I prefer the Scottish Convention's solution of themselves deposing the King rather than the English Convention's tortured constitutional reasoning). Other parliament's which changed the regime, such as the Convention Parliament of 1660, have in this list been placed under the old regime not the new one they created (or recognised). Similarly some Parliament's not summoned by the King himself (see DeMontfort's Parliament) have been included in the list of Parliaments for the King.
- If we are going to change this then the 1660 Convention Parliament should be put under Charles II and the 1689 Convention Parliament in William and Mary's list, with footnotes to explain the monarchs did not themselves summon the body. --Gary J 12:53, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Older parliaments
Is there a reason why parliamnets older then 1485 are not listed? Is it because they are not so consequitive? If there is no particular reason I will probably add the likes of Wonderful Parliament, Model Parliament, Merciless Parliament and Good Parliament. MeltBanana 20:47, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure that there is no reason - if you look at the history of this page, it was originally a data dump of Parliaments back to 1485, and nobody has got around to adding the earlier ones yet. Warofdreams 09:34, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
- You forgot the Parliament of Dunces. 68.39.174.238 03:49, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
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- And the Parliament of Bats and the Drunken Parliament and the Parliament of Devils... 68.39.174.238 03:53, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
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- And the Miraculous Parliament... 68.39.174.238 22:47, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
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- And the Useless Parliament (I have a suspicion that some of these are really the same under different names. Also see http://www.infoplease.com/dictionary/brewers/parliament.html ). 68.39.174.238 22:52, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
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Fire and Faggot Parliament, Addled Parliament
[edit] 3rd parliament under Charles II
The list gives two times a 3rd parliament under Charles II: one from 21 Oct 1680 to 18 Jan 1681 and one from 21 Mar 1681 to 28 Mar 1681 (the Oxford parliament). Is there any reaon why these two parliaments were given the same ordinal number? By the way, the article Oxford Parliament (1681) states that the parliament 21 to 28 Mar 1681 was the fifth and last parliament of the King's reign which I suppose would include the Convention Parliament of 1660. Could someone clarify this? --88.73.51.225 15:34, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Plt column
Is the Plt column really feasible? It refers to the parliament elected in 2005, the current parliament. But not that far away a new one will be elected and tho whole column would have to be renumbered. Str1977 (talk) 22:03, 9 June 2008 (UTC)