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[edit] New and Improved hopefully

Ok the new page is up. I'm not sure if I did it correct, but I made a back up copy of this page a few weeks back and tried to include all updates, but seems like are a lot more <include only> things that weren't there before, well hopefully we'll figure it all out soon. Sorry it took so long, I've been trying to check everything, and it'll probably get changed again soon any way, like the name Japan Pro Wrestling: Tohkon Road Brave Spirits, it took correcting after checking and still it'll probably be renamed again some time, but now it shows what the box says, as well as Tigger's Honey Hunt, It's been a long few weeks, hopefully the new page is simple and easy enough for everyone to understand and find the information they are looking for. I need a good dozen hours sleep or so, hopefully there won't be too much disagreement about what is to be on this list and what might need to be removed. (Floppydog66 21:39, 3 November 2007 (UTC))

Looks pretty good, I'll go through and remove the exact translations later this week. Hopefully some more editors more familiar with the list will help out too; I've asked SeizureDog to help out with the list as well. (Guyinblack25 talk 22:06, 3 November 2007 (UTC))

I think I got the spelling of everything as good as we'll get it for a while, but sometimes like The Star Wars Shadows of the Empire, the Romaji is slightly different then the USA meaning, and cases like
New Japan Pro Wrestling: Tōhkon Road Brave Spirits
Shin Nihon Pro Wrestling: Tōkon Honō Michi

I was checking the spelling and I think I pasted the Japanese text into Wikipedia and it brought up the main article about New Japan Pro Wrestling and then I noticed that the lion head logo with New Japan Pro Wrestling was also on the Box art and Cartridge, so that'd technically be the name of it using alphabet characters, and the Kanji where the same words that where above and below it so we should probably not use the Romaji for them, but just the English that appears on it. I'm not sure if the English words appear on part two or not and if they don't it might be better to list that one with the Romaji, but it's all sort of the same and either one will work. I noticed on a few of the games like this one instead of the Japanese using the "ō" as we've been doing, with the "o" having a line above it for the Romaji "Ou" they seem to change it to "oh". I was also thinking that we could add a mini cover art icon to the list but that would probably push us over the 100kb and isn't really needed, but it'd be another use of all the box art images that are on the separate pages. Wikipedia likes when things have more then one use. The box art also helps when checking spellings and deciding which words may or may not come first in the title. I tried to list all the new changes even the one about a week ago when SeizureDog changed Jikkyō Powerful Pro Yakyū Basic-han 2001 to the correct spelling "ban" they'll probably change a bit still but hopefully most of the checking and rechecking has helped work out most of the kinks and if someone is interested they can find the information they want, and complete the stub article about the game. Even sometimes just going to IGN and looking at screen shots enough information can be found to make it into a general article, and list a few good references. As I promised I'll try not to worry to much about what is used and what isn't, if someone thinks there is too much information here, or not enough there they'll probably change it again any way and sooner or later there'll be a majority consensus about which way is best, I'd still like to see some French N64 titles but with all my research even if there are a few it seems the English name would appear over it, and the French somewhere small off to the side or below it. I only have one other question regarding the <include only, > things that seemed to be all over the page they seemed to appear in the middle of a table one instance at the start of a paragraph and all sorts of other places that seemed more random then as a purposefully used Wikipedia tool, I wasn't able to find them on other "List Of" or other pages I went to so none of them appear on this new version of the page. Well that's about it, I hope at least a few people out there will like our new creation, "It's Alive..." (Floppydog66 15:29, 4 November 2007 (UTC))

As far as the box covers go, I believe that would be a violation of fair use. Wikipedia is a bit stricter on images used in lists. I remember when doing the List of Kingdom Hearts media, we couldn't use almost all of the images we had in there. Admittedly, I think it would be a cool idea and make the list more visually appealing and useful, but it wouldn't be allowed on Wikipedia.
Also, it looks like you've gotten all the needed information from the List of Japanese Nintendo 64 games. If you have, I'll go ahead and switch the page to a redirect. I'll wait a day or two before I do in case you don't check back here right away. (Guyinblack25 talk 18:56, 7 November 2007 (UTC))

I think both lists still need things such as release dates and what they are compatible with such as Memory Pak, Expansion Pak, and the such, because we'll be eventually making one for the USA games sooner or later, but having it on the other pages seems like a waste of repeating a lot of the game names when it could be easily glanced at here, or on the Japanese page, but for right now we only have the Japanese complete list of release dates, which I still need to add to the other list, and the other information about the Paks they used, and stuff. When adding other things to this page it still might need to be split into two separate pieces, since it already displays a message about its size when saving changes. I've also started a discussion about the Famicom games and been checking them for both Famicom and Disk, the total of officially released games seems to be 1236 not counting demos and stuff, but only the retail store ones. Most of those lists seem to be rather large and not very accurate yet either, but its surprising how few mistakes I've found. Maybe some day we'll get a chance to put all the Japanese Nintendo systems and there games onto one large list sort of like list of Cancelled games, with different page sections for each system, and the regions it was released in, The Europe games seem to be a bit harder then the USA ones to find a release date for, most of the USA games are mentioned in some magazine with their release date. As for this page there are things like Star Wars: Shadows and such that might need to be changed or seen as repeat information, but that's one of the difficulties if we use some, all, or not much of the Japanese titles. It looks pretty good, but there will probably be spelling changes and names being tossed about for along time to come as official spellings and such are found, or someone gets one of the items and finds that it says, or is spelled out in English a different way. I'm used to correcting them every few months, but to others it'll probably be a big pain to try sort through, and if we get a few more people involved they'll probably want the Japanese games removed to their own page anyway, with a little checkmark on the JLN64g page to show the ones that were released outside Japan. (Floppydog66 21:21, 8 November 2007 (UTC))

The List of Japanese Nintendo 64 games has been redirected to List of Nintendo 64 games. I'll archive this and the related above discussion some time this weekend. (Guyinblack25 talk 18:41, 9 November 2007 (UTC))
For the record, the 'includeonly' tags that were removed per the text above were used to define a portion of this list to display on the featured content page. With them removed it attempts to transclude the entire list onto that page and gets a bit messy. --CBD 14:32, 27 December 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Game Articles eventually may be lost if not expanded

It's been nearly 2 years since the effort began to include all listings and info about Nintendo 64 games onto Wikipedia but some of the articles have not been expanded since first being started as Stubs, and there is the growing possibility that those articles may eventually be deleted I've already tried to save the article Mike Piazza's Strike Zone twice from being reverted to the article about the player, with only the following info being listed there;

In 1998, Mike Piazza's Strike Zone was released for the Nintendo 64, system.

Which doesn't even tell which company released it or the date it was released, however the only info on the game's page is only slightly more and only the infobox information was missing from the Mike Piazza player article. The game's page probably will be moved there with a proper link to the Legacy section of the player, but the way it was redirected was nearly the same as when the Japanese list of N64 was requested for deletion, and no effort made to try and preserve the information already available, and its importance scale was changed to 'importance=no' which might happen to other games on this list, game links both here and on other pages continue to be redirected to articles about a anime series and other things that don't even mention the date that the game was released. Sadly I know of very few books and reference points for these games outside or magazines and web pages like IGN.com, but if more reliable references could be found about these games, even just the date and issue these games where released and reviewed in, would help to inform people about them and make them a more permanent part of Wikipedia, this should include both games that are really popular as well as games such as Super Mario 64, if one is of no importance then that only lessons the importance of another item in the same category. (Floppydog66 (talk) 16:01, 5 January 2008 (UTC))

[edit] Box Art and Screen Shots for game articles

Finished adding references to Mike Piazza's Strike Zone article and expanding it quite a bit, I feel that the Instruction Booklet of the game should also be considered a Reference, since many times in game articles the story and other info is listed there, none of the instructions text should be used here, or at at maximum a sentence or two that might be hard to explain in any other way. There also is a lot of images from these articles being removed mostly because they seem to have been clipped from some other page and placed on Wikipedia with "Cover Art of game" and that being the only info they leave on the image page. I think this, and the screen shots are two of the things that would help make these game articles better and make them more useful and helpful for Wikipedia, but there are also users using illegal roms and posting the images here, which is not good. For Screen Shots and box art I suggest anyone who has the item take a picture of the cartridge or box and submit it as Cover art, but keep it under 100kb and in JPEG format. For a screen shot I suggest if you wish to add one go to Video Game Museum and, or contribute the game screen shot there before posting it on Wikipedia, and then fill in the game info as below, remembering to put the double { before and after this on the Licensing section of image upload, and to fill in the Article name, and lastly deleting the asterisk;

Non-free use rationale

  • |Article=
  • |Description=Screen Shot
  • |Source=http://www.vgmuseum.com
  • |Portion=Full image
  • |Low_resolution=low quality image not suitable for pirating or copying of their work.
  • |Purpose=show game in progress
  • |Replaceability=none other available
  • |other_information=Image is used according to their policy;

Can I use your images on my website?

Yes, you can use the images, as long as you give credit to the website where you found them.



This will keep Wikipedia free from user uploaded Emulation pics that many people would seem to feel that Wikipedia was supporting Emulation. I feel that if we have screen shots here we should get them from another source and add them here with a reference to where they came from outside of Wikipedia, rather then making your own screen shots using emulation or whatever and them being posted by the Wikipedia users. I think this will help us out as well as Video Game Museum as long as we only use one or two of the images and try to make sure its not reproducing all of their images, so people can still go there to find more images of the game or box art, ect. It will hopefully keep Wikipedia lawyers from getting a headache, and still enable people to see and share information without illegal emulation ROMS being considered something that was used here for and encouraged by Wikipedia. (Floppydog66 (talk) 20:12, 6 January 2008 (UTC))

[edit] "L" Category Removed at some point

Just passing through, and noticed the current article lacks a listing for "L". Previous versions possess it too. Just bringing this up.

SpellingGuru (talk) 09:01, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

I had commented that one out, not only because there don't seem to be any N64 games with their main title starting with "L", but also because the table for "L" was incomplete and incorrectly set out, and was disrupting the structure of "M" table. As a trade-off, I just re-introduced the section, but not its table (who'd want to see an empty table here?) - Politically Corrupt (talk) 13:09, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Make tables sortable?

As per title: does anyone agree with me that this list would benefit from making its tables sortable, at least by release year, publisher and developer? One drawback I'm considering is that, the way the list is constructed, sorting would only affect one table at a time, i.e. one starting letter. - Politically Corrupt (talk) 10:48, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Does that mean when people view this page they could sort it by the view they are looking at similar to Ebay, Ending soon, lowest price that type of thing? I'm not sure what it looks like, could you post a link to a wikipedia article that has this on it? It sounds pretty good as long as it doesn't have to be changed by every one that edits and that thinks it should be alphabetized or "released by" company list. As I mentioned in the archived or other talks it's nearly impossible to list them by release date since they where released in so many different times and regions, and some USA and Europe dates still aren't known.(Floppydog66 (talk) 14:14, 22 February 2008 (UTC))

As an example, I invite you to take a look at the List of video games by Cryo Interactive I've been putting together lately. Every field in the table header includes a gadget for sorting it by that field value. The difference is that the List of N64 games would need such a header for each starting letter, which would not allow "global" sorting by other fields. Politically Corrupt (talk) 09:40, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I think I arranged the sortable tables the proper way, its pretty neat it refreshes that section of the page without reloading the entire thing, pretty handy for wanting to view all the Nintendo developed games in that section, a little sad that it's not for the entire page, but it dose make finding some info a bit easier, but I think it's much easier having the short sections rather then one long list with no breaks in it. (Floppydog66 (talk) 18:36, 27 February 2008 (UTC))

Sorting is nice, but it really needs to be worked into a single table for it to be actually useful. It would be very helpful for people trying to see the order in which games were released or to find all the games by a specific developer, etc... In my opinion its a must for the continued growth of the article. Divegato (talk) 21:25, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Also IGN.com has the exact release dates for all of the n64 games (at least all the games I checked). That would be very useful for sorting and increasing the quality of the list in general. Divegato (talk) 21:34, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Alright, then if no-one objects, I'm going to combine the tables. Divegato (talk) 10:46, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


Sorry about not getting back to you sooner, our dog has been sick, and there was a friend's birthday. There are only two minor problems with having the list as a single table. First it's really big for people to edit and if they accidentally mess up one entry on the table, it'll show up on the entire page. The second is that the contents link at the top to the various A b and such doesn't work. I'm not sure if there's a way around that, while keeping something to make it quicker to jump to the various points in the table, sort of like the reference links. Standard e-book type html links might work but I haven't seen anything like that used on Wikipedia before and they might have some other way it might be done. But yes I think it's a better list with it as one sortible table, I wish there was a way to separate the sections a bit more though. As for release date the hard part would be finding and deciding which ones to use, most of the ones that we have on the various N64 games have different USA and Europe release dates, if we only use USA dates that could be considered biased to USA/North America releases, but if we do it like the list is set up the 1st English speaking release, or Japanese if exclusive. If a Europe date is not known we could use a USA one, but they would probably need references to them if it was listed as specific dates, even on the articles themselves the various release dates sometimes have one or two references just for the dates, Europe, USA, and Japan, which helps verify what the article says about it, and that someone didn't just come up with a date to fill in the blank. I think it's best with just the year release date because that seems nearly the same for each release, but if you wish to try adding the full dates to each here I have no objection. We could even go as far as a Chronology of N64 release dates, all dates for each release would be great to see, but like the "List of Japanese Nintendo 64 games" it would need a lot of separate references, and might seem to others to be repeating some of the information here and it might get marked up for deletion. I'd still like to see one :) but it'd probably be best to do a complete list of release dates outside of Wikipedia and have it posted somewhere else, it might even be used as a reference here and on the various articles pages. (Floppydog66 (talk) 20:18, 7 March 2008 (UTC))
Technically I think we should list all of the release dates for each area, possibly a separate column for each. I'm not sure how well this would work with the width of the table, information available or sheer amount of work though. I think its a good idea to remove the abc link box at the top. Since the list is now sortable it isn't as useful anyway.

Also, why does sorting not work correctly for the flags column? It's close to correct but not quite. Is it a brackets problem like the number of players column? Divegato (talk) 08:13, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Game Magazine, and articles needed

I've been trying to dig up all the Strategy guides and magazines I can find to help give the games more references and make them more substantial, any magazine that tells about it can help every time it is mentioned helps to improve it's note worthiness. Some where even reviewed by Newspapers such as Washington Post and such if Educational or extremely popular, any reference to these games would help. I have all the Nintendo Power issues that dealt with the original N64 years, but that's about all the ones I have, to help improve the references, I hope more people will take the time to look through their collection of old magazines and help improve the articles about these games.(Floppydog66 (talk) 14:14, 22 February 2008 (UTC))

[edit] Improved Math

Of its 387 releases, 297 were released in North America, 42 of which were exclusive to North America. 197 were released in Japan, 83 of which were exclusive. 243 were released in Europe, 4 of which were exclusive. Snowboard Kids 2 was released in Australia, but not in Europe for a total of 244 games in Australia.

Here are the total number of games from each release zone based on the current list. Does this look good for including? (Divegato (talk) 11:29, 4 March 2008 (UTC))


I think our region listings still needs work and that the "Exclusive" only numbers are better to show how many of the different games weren't released outside of their regions. They became a almost unreleased game, Taz Express can still be considered a Unreleased game in Japan and USA, even though it was reviewed in Nintendo Power as a game that would be released in the USA, we also only have the three lists below as reference, and they don't say for sure which games where released in which regions, the games being listed by region still could be considered "original research" and was possibly made by looking at these lists checking release dates and online searching. For regions released we probably still need a listing for the rest of Asia, that had N64 games released there, and South America, that would be a total world view of the system and its games, but it'd probably still be difficult to tell which games where released where, and how many each had, without official lists, like the one Nintendo of America made. (Floppydog66 (talk) 21:18, 7 March 2008 (UTC))

[edit] Contents box

It does nothing, because of the way the list's table is built. If each letter of the alphabet was its own table then it would work. So my question is should we just remove it? --AeronPrometheus (talk) 10:42, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

I think the sorting does what this once did. I think it should be deletedDivegato (talk) 17:27, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Japanese Titles in Japanese

I saw that this was a big discussion in the archived talk pages. Seeing as this is the English Wikipedia, shouldn't the Japanese titles be in translated form. Most people (on English wikipedia) cannot read in Japanese whereas the translated titles would get all necessary information across. I'm not gonna go ahead and delete anything unless there is some agreement though. Divegato (talk) 17:37, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Which are you concerned about? 1. The Japanese titles themselves such as wanting English names for the games such as Yakochu II, being re-titled as "Glowing Seaweed II", or 2. Is it the Japanese text, and you think it and the Romaji shouldn't both be in displayed such as this;
(スーパーロボット大戦６４?)
Super Robot Taisen 64

In WikiProject Japan, (a part of English Wikipedia) it asks that all articles when referring to Japanese books and such, to give a conversion, or most popular name of any given title and then give it's name in it's original form. It shows besides their usual English title, they where also given a Japanese title of their own as well, in many cases having both printed on there cover. The Japanese and English spelling of those words also gives anyone with the Japanese script the chance to check the Romaji spelling. For instance:
(ゼルダの伝説。　時のオカリナ?)
Zelda no Densetsu: Toki no Ocarina

If Japan titled their version
(レジェンドオブゼルダ。　オカリナオブタイム?)
using Katakana (as is usually done when translating English words directly to Japanese speech) then it would be a direct translation of the English name , but it's not. It is given it's own unique Japanese title, and instead of titles like "Star Wars: Teikoku no Kage" being translated straight into Katakana, they where given unique names of their own, in this case the alternate title is also displayed on it's cover, in the same way "XG2" and "Ten Eighty Snowboarding" have alternate titles along with the main title on their covers. In a list of Japanese games which we've already had at one point the title would be listed as Zelda no Densetsu: Toki no Ocarina, and there for is a alternate title, compared to a simple translation of a title. If we put here "Super Robot Wars 64" instead of "Super Robot Taisen 64" then it might be understood that the two games where the same, but in both cases the official names should be listed here, and even though "Super Robot Wars 64" is not a official title of a game, it could be seen as a alternate title, since other games in this series have "Robot Wars" in English, but either way we should still keep the Japanese name, whether we keep "Super Robot Taisen 64" and (スーパーロボット大戦６４?) or simply Super Robot Taisen 64, at least one should be listed here. Then in that case, it should still be used in titles like "FIFA: World Cup he no Michi '98, Star Wars: Shutsugeki! Rogue Chuutai, and Star Wars: Teikoku no Kage, Tsumi to Bachi: Chikyū no Keishousha, and Zelda no Densetsu: Majora no Kamen.

When we updated this page with Japanese titles I listed it so all available info was available at once, including Japanese text, and left it up to anyone else to keep either or both the Japanese text and or Romaji, Guyinblack25 removed some of the Japanese text, that he felt where translations of English words, and yet left "WWF WrestleMania 2000" in Japanese, and in cases like "Star Wars: Shutsugeki! Rogue Chuutai" even I missed the chance to list the Romaji for Rogue Squadron for some reason even though they are different. I still feel Zelda no Densetsu: Toki no Ocarina, should be listed as alternate title as well as the others, like New Japan Pro Wrestling: Tōhkon Road Brave Spirits, just as long as either the Romaji and, or Japanese text is kept in the alternate titles section, either one or both. l feel if people come and see "Akumajo Dracula" they'll add the Japanese titles of Zelda also. Altogether there are only about 10 games that are like this but some editors still don't want the Japanese "Zelda" title mentioned, when the English one is here. These two are sort of Special Editions like ClayFighter 63 1/3 Sculptor's Cut, and Blitz Special Edition, they should be listed under alternate title, since they are officially released games.

  • Super Mario 64: Shindō Pak Taiō Version
  • Wave Race 64: Shindō Pak Taiō Version


I found while looking through our original reference by Thiago Simoes, that these games have been missing from our list, the only other game was Pokemon Attack, besides being the name of a SNES game it seems to have been a pre-production name for Pokemon Puzzle League and not actually released, by that name.
Yannick Noah's All Star Tennis '99 (French only)
and two additional names for "Michael Owen's WLS 2000"
Telefoot Soccer 2000 (French only)
RTL World League Soccer 2000 (German) (Floppydog66 (talk) 23:35, 15 May 2008 (UTC))