Talk:List of Naruto manga volumes

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[edit] Volume names

Need a list of these. Amazon didn't have anything like that listed. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 04:06, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

That's not surprising; the only place it seems to be given is on a volume's title page, it's table of contents, and occasionally its back cover. Anyway, Viz's titles can be found under each respective volume here. As for Japanese titles, I assume these are correct:
  1. うずまきナルト!!
  2. 最悪の依頼人
  3. 夢の為に・・・!!
  4. 英雄の橋!!
  5. 挑戦者たち!!
  6. サクラの決意!!
  7. 進むべき道・・・!!
  8. 命懸けの戦い!!
  9. ネジとヒナタ
  10. 立派な忍者・・・!!
  11. 弟子入り志願 !?
  12. 大いなる飛翔!!
  13. 中忍試験、終了・・・!!
  14. 火影VS火影!!
  15. ナルト忍法帖!!
  16. 木ノ葉崩し、終結!!
  17. イタチの能力(ちから)!!
  18. 綱手の決意!!
  19. 受け継ぐ者
  20. ナルトvsサスケ!!
  21. 許せない!!
  22. 転生・・・!!
  23. 苦境・・・!!
  24. ピンチ・ピンチ・ピンチ!!
  25. 兄(イタチ)と弟(サスケ)
  26. 別れの日・・・!!
  27. 旅立ちの日!!
  28. ナルトの帰郷!!
  29. カカシVSイタチ!!
  30. チヨバアとサクラ
  31. 託された想い!!
  32. サスケへの道!!
  33. 極秘任務・・・!!
  34. 再会の時・・・!!
  35. 新たなる二人組!!
  36. 第十班
  37. シカマルの戦い!!
You might notice that all of these match chapter titles. And you'd be correct. ~SnapperTo 04:30, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, Bleach does something similar. Working them in shouldn't be too difficult. Kanji for JP, translation (offical or otherwsie) for English. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 04:34, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
Damn, actual list here, but flash formatted. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 04:57, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

GO to Leafninja.com. It has detailed information on all the volumes and chapters.

Dude i would help buutttt these sites are soo not in my language. Nice work Though ;-] Theassasin 10:25, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chapter titles

So, how are we gonna do this? Are we gonna have an approximate translation for the chapters with no official title, like One Piece media and release information? Also, is there a reason why chapter 125 doesn't have a title? The Splendiferous Gegiford 19:33, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, romanizations and rough translations would be nice, though the article is in need of someone who can read Japanese and provide that. As for 125, the title doesn't seem to be given in Shonen Jump, so we'll need to wait for the volume release in a few weeks to see what it is. ~SnapperTo 19:41, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair Use Images

The use of images in this way is not in accordance with Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria policy (likely in that the use is not minimal (3.a.) and it is in a list or a gallery (8.)). The gallery has thus been deprecated. EliminatorJR Talk 21:34, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] short chapter summaries

Guys, the main shippuden plot page looks like it's gonna be history. What do you say we pitch in and move the summaries chapter by chapter here? 69.125.198.27 03:09, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

How about volume by volume instead? Chapter by chapter is far too excessive. ~SnapperTo 18:18, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Ah, see shippuden plot was fuxxored. Hopefully someone saved it. Volume by volume for what ha been published as tanks, and chapter by chapter for what is not in tank form yet. that okay? Handren Offma 23:21, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
I don't see why there needs to be a chapter by chapter for unreleased chapters. That just gives IPs free reign to go into four paragraphs of detail for each new chapter. ~SnapperTo 02:38, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Not if we strenuously watch it and cut it down when it gets too big, like we did at the since deleted Plot article... Granted, we could add a lot more info there, but then again, its supposed to be a summary, not an essay covering every single minor plot detail that's happened...
My proposal on the AFD called for a a max 3 to 5 paragraph summary of the uncollected chapters, removing them when they are collected in a Volume, which means, like one every 2 months or so, we remove about 8 chapters worth of information. --GhostStalker(Got a present for ya! | Mission Log) 12:40, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Well, before we can figure out whether or not and how much of a summary should be included, we need a place for volume summaries to be added. I'm no good with wikicode, so someone will need to do that first. ~SnapperTo 18:09, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Splitting

Perhaps a List of Naruto chapters (Part I) and List of Naruto chapters (Part II) should be made for Parts I and II respectively, as to prevent readability concerns, as this article is certaintly going to exceed 100 KB once the Part II summaries are added. It also makes it easier to work on the pages, and push them to FL status. Thoughts? Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 09:03, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

That would probably be for the best; I hadn't expected it to get as large as it has so quickly. I think the article's size according to the Wikipedia software is somewhat misleading, but even then some kind of split is necessary. ~SnapperTo 18:56, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Coming back to this, what should be left on the primary article when it is separated? Food for thought, as to prevent any controversy when the separate articles are created. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 00:12, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Title, volume number, release date, and maybe the chapters the volume covers should suffice. ~SnapperTo 03:25, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Wait what was the point of splitting the article if you were just going to get rid of the summaries anyway? The Splendiferous Gegiford 04:42, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Yea, this page was updated with volume summaries after the deletion of the Naruto plot articles. The split lists should contain at least some summary... I'd understand if people are getting to it. --GhostStalker(Got a present for ya! | Mission Log) 04:59, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Splitting was a logical conclusion in any case. If you look at the List of Naruto chapters (Part I) page, it has ~45,000 bytes, and I haven't even put half the references or written the lead. See List of Claymore chapters (which is going for featured list status by the way) for what I am shooting for. As for individual volume summaries, I don't find that it is necessary. In episode lists, you can handle summaries on an episode to episode basis, making it easier to manage. Here, we have to summarize entire volumes, some of which more often than not contain plot details that require significant explanation for a reader to understand. I'm not against them if they're short enough to not invite WP:NOT#PLOT concerns, but I still don't feel that they're necessary. The old ones were way too detailed though. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 05:21, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
For all practical purposes, I've finished List of Naruto chapters (Part I). Considering that they are indeed short and succinct, plot summaries could be added onto the volumes. Again, I believe it's unnecessary, and attracts WP:NOT#PLOT problems that could otherwise be avoided. Anyhow, if anyone cares to do so, it likely could run through WP:FLC at the moment. If someone wants to nominate it go ahead, I have three nominations (List of Naruto episodes (Seasons 3-4), List of Claymore episodes, and List of Claymore chapters) already present to monitor. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 08:21, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

What is the point in just listing vague titles that don't mean anything to someone who doesn't follow the manga? Summaries, however short, should be included for the sake promoting an understanding of the story and to serve as an aid when searching for a specific event in the manga. - Vagrant Oner 20:38, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

The old summaries weren't that long. Simply paving over a few lesser points and cutting out the more specific battle details would suffice in making them feasible-length. ~SnapperTo 22:35, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

The old summaries were ~37,000 bytes. That's a tad bit too long. Again, I don't mind plot summaries, but they shouldn't delve into specifics at all. A succinct generalization is all that is needed. Six to seven sentences tops. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 23:27, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
So it's decided, summaries are a go. I've begun cutting down the former summaries from Part I, starting backwards from Chapter 27 (just in case anyone has already started from Chapter 1). If someone wants to coordinate, let me know. Vagrant Oner 04:26, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] English volume 28 release date.

SimonSays.com has the release date to volume twenty-eight in America. Rathen then screwing up the coding on the page I'll have someone else add it.

Also, it implies that Naruto will return to three chapters per month when 'Part II' begins.

^^ do you mean three volumes a month? 3 chapters a month isnt even 1 volume —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.71.219.188 (talk) 04:52, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WAAAYYYY too detailed

Wow, we've really detailed this article alot, haven't we? Well, ummm, it's TOO informative to the readers and allows them to know just about everything going on in the series' plot. I suggest we cut down the details a lot so it only reveals so-and-so. Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 20:53, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This page

As I've finished my writeup of both List of Naruto chapters (Part I) and List of Naruto chapters (Part II), what is to be done with this page? The organization of the lead is clear, as it serves as an overall summary of the elements found in Part I, Part II, and the movie manga still on this page, but what to include under the linked sections is the central question. The "list" portion of this page has been significantly reduced, and I'm unaware of how you could include a formatting similar to List of Naruto episodes and not make the page just as long, if not longer, than the two split off pages. Thoughts? Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 03:48, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

The volume details could be added to take up space, something like:
Title Volume Release date
English Japanese Japan US
The Tests of the Ninja うずまきナルト!! 1 March 3, 2000 August 16, 2003
The Worst Client 最悪の依頼人 2 June 2, 2000 December 26, 2003
Maybe there could be a field for what chapters each volume covers? Either way, it's as close to the episode list as you can get without having the old article back again. ~SnapperTo 19:20, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
That seems to be fine. A field for the number of chapters is unnecessary given that practically all the volumes have the same number of chapters. Any oddballs can be explained in a short summary above. Well, after that is added, this list can be cleaned up, and all we basically have to do after that is update release dates and volume information. In any case, either List of Naruto chapters (Part I) or List of Naruto chapters (Part II) could go to WP:FLC right now. Feel free to nominate them. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 22:54, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
I meant something more akin to "Chapters: 73-81", not "Chapters: 9". ~SnapperTo 21:16, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Oh. That's fine. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 22:57, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Plot summaries

Given the comments at the featured list nomination for List of Naruto chapters (Part I) here, plot summaries appear to be conducive to understanding of the topic, and increase the similarity between the article and existing FL episode lists. Ergo, the summaries should be restored. However, the level of detail that the previous ones approached should not be the case, and the summaries should do nothing more than briefly describe what is occurring in the volume. Remember that the summaries are not a substitute for reading the manga. Thanks. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 06:12, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Sephiroth, the previous summaries were just fine, barely longer than a paragraph. IN no way is a paragraph of text a substitute for reading a 200+ page fully illustrated manga volume. They jshould be restored to their proper volumes. Hell, Avatar TLA has episode summaries that take up a whole page. 165.230.31.178 15:58, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Movie manga

Can someone find sources for the release dates of the movie manga (the Japanese ones rather)? I haven't been able to find any. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 22:59, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

This'll do it. I think, anyway. See if you can sort through that. I'm not so clear on it. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 23:07, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
I think these (1, 2, 3) are the manga. They at the very least seem to sync up with what's already in the article. ~SnapperTo 03:11, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FLC

I've nominated this article for featured list status here. Feel free to comment there or improve the article in any fashion. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 07:51, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Featured topic nomination

I've nominated List of Naruto manga volumes, List of Naruto chapters (Part I), and List of Naruto chapters (Part II) to be a featured topic. Feel free to comment at the nomination here. Regards, Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 19:36, 12 November 2007 (UTC)