Talk:List of Muslim soldiers

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This article received a nomination for deletion on 21 February 2006. The result of the discussion was transferral to talk discussion.
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Votes for deletion This article was nominated for deletion on April 8, 2006. The result of the discussion was keep. An archived record of this discussion can be found here.

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[edit] Worthy of Deletion

The article is worthy of deletion. People who propagated violence, terror, plunder, loot, rape and holocaust all over the globe do not deserve accolades.

[edit] Mujahdeen and Muslim soldiers

Why on earth is this article nominated for deletion...its baseless...guys keep up the good job in the article mujeerkhan 23.15, 17 june 2006 (UTC)


At present state both Mujahdeen and Muslim soldiers articles are useful and gives different information. We should keep both articles. --Spasage 06:21, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Definition of list

One of the things that was mentioned in the AFD was the difference between a muslim soldier and a mujahid. It might be useful to go into more detail about that and what qualifies someone to be on this list. For example, would James Yee go on it? Also, it might make more sense for the century subheadings to be given as 500s or 6th Century rather than 500 and other specific years. I'd do it myself, but wanted to see what other people thought. The opening also mentions "Some of the older entries may be more accurately be described as warriors, and some as militia." It might be useful to go into more about what that means, as I can't really tell. Шизомби 22:38, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

I think as it stands, (the criteria may need a little refinement) Yee wouldn't be on the list; nor should he. The first part specifies leadership roles - generals etc; the second those 'of particular note' - in western terms, Audie Murphy 'might' get on such a list, but not every CMH or VC would. I don't think it would form a useful list if it started to include every soldier, mujahid, martyr etc. I agree on the century markings - & perhaps list both Islamic & CE centuries.Bridesmill 22:46, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

To include Muhammad Ibn 'abd Al-karim Al-khattabi in the "List of Muslim soldiers" is to deny his political views. His struggle was for national independence, it was not religious.

And that's all I have to say about that.

[edit] The first sentence shows why this page is strange

The first sentence of this page can be applied to any fighter warrior irregardless if there Muslim or not.....And by the way.......If you scroll down it lists Osama Bin Laden lol. 71.119.255.31 01:20, 19 May 2007 (UTC)