Talk:List of Melbourne bus routes

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VFD vote archived: see Talk:List of Melbourne bus routes/Archive 1

1 Great article
2 Accuracy
3 entry syntax
4 About Melbourne Buses
5 broken hyperlinks
- 5.1 Solution: ready-to-go
6 Shouldn't there be seprate articles
7 Fair use rationale for Image:Cardiniabus.gif
8 Fair use rationale for Image:Cranbournebus.gif
9 Fair use rationale for Image:Eastwestbus.gif
10 Fair use rationale for Image:Dysonlogo.jpg
11 Fair use rationale for Image:Driverbus.gif
12 Fair use rationale for Image:Kastoriabus.gif
13 Fair use rationale for Image:Nightriderbus.gif
14 Fair use rationale for Image:Nationalbus.gif
15 Fair use rationale for Image:Invictabus.gif
16 Fair use rationale for Image:Ivanhoebus.gif
17 Fair use rationale for Image:Mckenziesbus.gif
18 Fair use rationale for Image:Moorabbinbus.gif
19 Fair use rationale for Image:Panoramabus.gif
20 Fair use rationale for Image:Peninsulabus.gif
21 Fair use rationale for Image:Reservoirbus.gif
22 Fair use rationale for Image:Portseabus.gif
23 Fair use rationale for Image:Sitabus.gif
24 Fair use rationale for Image:Sunburybus.gif
25 Fair use rationale for Image:Venturabus.gif
26 Fair use rationale for Image:Westransbus.jpg
27 I'm gonna fix it up...

[edit] Great article

I wish to thank everyone who worked on this article. It's great and very interesting. I would like to see more like this. Optim 15:30, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Accuracy

Where is the information for these coming from? It seems to me that the National Bus section clashes entirely with http://www.nationalbus.com.au/national.html, which doesn't seem like a good sign. Ambivalenthysteria 12:57, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I'm not sure where it's been coming from, but the city's bus routes are listed at VicTrip. I ought to compare what's here with what's there, and fill in the gaps while I'm at it. It would take some time though. See here

Another thing, it appears that the archive above is in the encyclopedia namespace, not the talk namespace. Is there anything special to moving across namespaces or not; so it can be put in its place?

TPK 14:13, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)

[edit] entry syntax

This question is related to disambiguation of the term "Upfield" on this page.

What is the syntax used for an entry like this below?

531 - Coburg North - Upfield - Broadmeadows

Obviously the first item is the route number, the last is the operator, but what about the other two?

Route # - ???? - ???? - Operator

Thanks for clarifying this. I would suppose at this point that Upfield should be revised to Upfield, but I await your input before making that change.

Regards, User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 19:54, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Actually, from what I can tell it's a list of suburbs, sometimes train stations. I'll get my Melway and check it out. Josh Parris#: 11:07, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

So silly of me. Anyways, the map says the 540 and 531 terminate at the train station. Josh Parris#: 11:28, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] About Melbourne Buses

Wouldn't this whole section be a lot more suitable at Buses in Melbourne instead? It's also incredibly negative - while there's a long, long way to go, it's still the only form of PT in some areas. invincible 08:08, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm removing this section because it only focuses about the lack of service levels and its apparent uselessness (though I beg to differ, a lot of routes are suffering from a lack of capacity) and this article isn't the right place for them anyway. The section has since been renamed to "Melbourne Buses" but it's the same content. invincible 11:56, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Here's the text removed:

Unlike Melbourne's train and tram networks, which are operated by one company each, Melbourne's bus network is operated by a multitude of private companies. These range from small firms with one or two routes to large organisations that run several dozen.

Apart from some outer area and airport services, bus companies participate in the integrated Metcard ticketing system and receive operating subsidies from the State Government.

Compared to the world-famous tram system, and the suburban electrified rail system that penetrates outer suburbia, buses in Melbourne are very much an afterthought, despite being the only public transport that is within walking distance of about 60% of the population.

The average Melbourne bus route operates every forty minutes and stops before 7:00pm weekdays. Most routes operate approximately hourly on Saturdays. Despite trading hours being de-regulated in the 1990s, only about a quarter of bus routes operate on Sundays and evenings.

It is common for buses every 30 minutes to 'feed' trains running every 20 minutes. Thus connections between buses and trains are more a happy coincidence than because of service planning. Passengers arriving by train are often better off walking home than waiting for the bus, contributing to low patronage. Unlike trams, bus routes tend to be circuitous and passenger information at stops is often missing or inaccurate.

These attributes have made buses a 'mode of last resort', and, except on the few routes that do run frequently, provide a 'social security' type service used mainly by those without a car.

Some improvements have recently been made to bus services in Melbourne. These include extra Sunday services on some routes, route extensions to new estates and three 'SmartBus' routes serving major roads. However until improvements are forthcoming on the majority of routes, most residents will continue to have a long wait for the bus and will prefer other transport modes.

invincible 12:17, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] broken hyperlinks

It looks like a revamp of the metlinkmelbourne.com.au website has broken all links

http://www.metlinkmelbourne.com.au/timetables/timetable_options.php?type=bus&id=MTB237

is now:

http://www.metlinkmelbourne.com.au/line/view/2071

There doesn't appear to be any correlation between the route number and the URL. Alternatively, all links can be fixed quickly by using the search page:

http://www.metlinkmelbourne.com.au/metlink/quicksearch?searchText=237

My recommendation is that all links are fixed by using the search page (one edit, search and replace), and then everyone can help by replacing the link to the search with the direct link. Jayvdb 08:44, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Solution: ready-to-go

I have produced a template that's fairly easy to use, that will generate the appropriate link automatically. The template is Template:MetlinkBus, and the instructions for its use are on that page. The good thing about doing it this way is that if Metlink change their links again, it's basically just a search-and-replace to fix it all. I'll start correcting the links using this template now; if there are any problems feel free to let me know. --Evan C (Talk) 10:32, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shouldn't there be seprate articles

Shouldn't there be seprate articles for each route like the trams and trains?--Adammw 23:38, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

For each individual route? I don't see why, perhaps aside from the SmartBus routes. There are a lot more bus routes than there are train lines and tram routes. Most would be little more than a route description, anyway. --Evan C (Talk) 05:36, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] I'm gonna fix it up...

I plan to do a bit of work on this page, giving every route a link where possible, and having one constant format for the whole article. Please excuse anything that looks half done, I WILL get around to fixing it, whenever I can... Kiwichris1709 (talk) 13:38, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Update: All routes are now in a table. The next step is to provide links for all routes, and find any missing routes.