Talk:List of Manchester United F.C. players

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There are two other lists of similar nature, List of Arsenal F.C. players and List of Liverpool F.C. players, which are both featured, so we should try to bring this list up to a similar standard. One main difference between the lists is that both the Arsenal and Liverpool lists have the same criteria, which is, only players with 100 or more first-class matches for the club, or have made significant contributions to the club, are included in the lists. I think we should also introduce the same criteria in this list. --Thaurisil 05:31, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Contents

[edit] As of December 21, 2006

After researching, I have found the following players who have started in at least 100 games for MANU and are missing from our list:

  1. Bob Bonthron
    James Brown - debuted in 1935
    Francis Burns - debuted in 1967
    Walter Cartwright
    Ronnie Cope
    Alex Downie - debuted in 1902
    Fred Erentz
    Don Gibson - debuted in 1950
    Billy Griffiths
    Jack Griffiths
    John Grimwood
    Vince Hayes
    Graeme Hogg - has had 109 total appearances
    Dick Holden
  2. Tom Jones
  3. Frank Mann
  4. Billy McGlen
  5. Bill McKay
  6. George McLachlan
  7. Hugh McLenahan
  8. James McNaught
  9. Jack Mellor
  10. Jack Mew
  11. Harry Moger
  12. Charlie Moore - debuted in 1919
  13. Billy Morgan
  14. Teddy Partridge
    Albert Quixall
  15. George Stacey
  16. Alfred Steward
  17. Harry Thomas
  18. George Vose
  19. Jack Warner - debuted in 1938
  20. Arthur Whalley
  21. Jack Wilson

--Crzycheetah 22:49, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

All done. All players added to list with a stub article. Patken4 16:29, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Omissions

Is here no place on this list for Jesper Blomqvist, Karel Poborsky, Jordi Cruyff? They may not have left to the cheers of testimonials, but I'd think their presence at the time was by many considered notable.. MURGH disc. 16:24, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

For all of them, their appearance counts do not meet the criteria of 100 appearances. If their appearance counts was closer to 100, perhaps above 85 or 90, they could be considered, but none of them even reaches the 60 mark. It is just too low for them to have been able to make significant contributions for the club. Thaurisil 03:48, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Juan Sebastian Veron is in sight of that 60 mark, and it feels strange to distinguish between him and Laurent Blanc.. Yes, the numbers are against all of these, but I'm not so sure about applying appearances without considering length of stay or other criteria to judge "significant contributions to the club's history". -MURGH disc. 05:17, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
I fail to see the justification for Blanc. 25 games is a long way off the 100 watermark, and I can't recall any hugely notable contribution. Oh, and I agree with Thaurisil regarding Cruyff etc. HornetMike 23:21, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
I agree that Blanc hasn't made sufficient contributions to be on the list, so I have removed him from the it. Anyone who feels he should be on it is welcome to add him to the list. Thaurisil 13:42, 22 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Substitute appearances

There are several players listed with substitute appearances before substitutes were permitted in 1965-66.

Can some-one more knowleadgable about M.U.'s history check and amend the list?

Incidentally, why is David Byrne on the list at all? If he only made 4 appearances, even allowing for the 3 goals he scored! Daemonic Kangaroo 05:45, 3 February 2007 (UTC) (Life-long Southampton supporter)

I have removed David Byrne as there is no article about him in Wikipedia - there are articles David Byrne (English footballer) and David Byrne (South African footballer) but both were born long after the time the David Byrne in this list actually played. Either it was a false addition or a person who is not well-known so I have removed them. No idea on the players with "substitute" appearances, alas, I will defer to any Man United experts here. Qwghlm 00:12, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Michael Carrick

I notice Michael Carrick has been added to the list, despite only having made 50 total appearance? Personally, I don't think he's quite noteworthy enough to add to the list, especially since he's only made 50 appearances so far. Removal? PeeJay 11:28, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Table formatting

Something's messed up in the table's formatting. When you sort by name, you'll see the issue appearing at the top of the table. - Dudesleeper ยท Talk 02:14, 18 May 2007 (UTC)