Talk:List of Jewish American politicians
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S/be List of Jewish American politicians. 24.17.48.241 06:38, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Delete Article?
There might be something very sinister about this article. I did not see a list of Catholic American politicians, or a list of Baptist politicians or a list of Hispanic-American politicians or Greek-American politicians. There is a list of Italian-American politicians, but it seems to be incomplete and doesn't include those in the federal government. This is the kind of list that can be a prelude to Nurenberg-type laws, and some of the comments below are coming pretty close to the same philosophy. What is your criterion for Jewish? Is 1/8 Jewish enough? Does it depend on religious belief or "race"? What is the justification for compiling only a list of Jews?
There is a list of famous Irish-American politicians, but it isn't just tabulating all the Irishmen in American politics.
It would be appropriate and informative to have one article (perhaps in sections) with statistics on the religious and ethnic affiliations of politicians in the United States. It would then be obvious ,for example, that there were not very many Catholic (1) or Jewish (0 thus far) or Hindu (0) or Buddhist (0) or female (0) or African (0 so far) Presidents, nor many whose ancestors hailed from Southern or Eastern Europe.
Is this list a research project for some Senator who will proclaim, "I have here a list of 57 Jews in the State Department?" Mewnews (talk) 00:02, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Where is MadJackOLantern??
When you get a chance, this is ANOTHER list that has run seriously amuk. What is going on?? Seriously, anybody know whats up?? Thanks! --Tom 20:32, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] You are not Jewish if your father is Jewish, only if your mother is
The following do not qualify:
- William Cohen, secretary of defense (1997-01) (currently a Unitarian Universalist, father was Jewish)
[edit] George Allen
According to his Wikipedia entry, his mother was Jewish. He should be on this list, right? Jeremy Peter Green 08:48, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
- No, he really shouldn't. He may have Jewish blood but he is most certainly not Jewish. I'm removing him, but if people think I'm wrong, they can put him back. 24.229.152.70 06:50, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] John Kerry
Hmmm... I wonder why he's under the Presidential Candidates listing, HE'S NOT JEWISH!!
John kerry his father is jewish —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.189.57.251 (talk) 19:31, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Are ethnic jews included?
If the person was raised catholic but their mother was an ethnic jew, would that person be included in the article? Please let me know, as we are having a discussion on this matter on another page. Yes, I have read the section on being Jewish, but some people disagree with my conclusions. Any thoughts on the matter would be helpful. Thank You.
- Here is the gist of being "Jewish" for Wikipedia purposes (or being "Italian-American", "Irish-American", etc.). If a reputable source called a person "Jewish", regardless of whether that person's mother, father, or paternal great-grandfather was Jewish, then they are Jewish for Wikipedia purposes unless there is an equally or more reliable source that says they are "not Jewish". This is the same for any X-American label. I believe there are sources - mostly excited headlines - that call George Felix Allen "Jewish", therefore it is fine under WP:V and WP:NOR. Mad Jack 08:55, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
- Why don't you tell this to User:Jayjg and his unacceptable, tyrannical, and unreasonable behavior at the List of Jewish American businesspeople article that myself and others spent quite a bit of time building up. He specifically singled out that particular article (pushing his own POV agenda, accusing me of "pointing out every rich Jew in America") for a mass deletion/reversion, citing "failure to source every name" even though well over 90% of ALL the lists of Jews and others on Wikipedia aren't sourced; to point out his blatant hypocrisy I subsequently tagged most of the articles (lists of Jews) that I could find that didn't have a source for every single name (per Jayjg's 'new policy'). If sources aren't added soon TO EVERY NAME on these lists (or if the businesspeople list isn't rightfully restored) I will ask Jayjg to start blanking those lists just as he did the Jewish American businesspeople article. I won't even harp on about the deletion of Category:Jewish American businesspeople, except for the fact that it was a triple intersection category and therefore its deletion meant that many of the people formerly in that category had their Jewish identity entirely lost, sunk forever in to the mass oblivion of the too-broad Category:American businesspeople. --WassermannNYC 17:38, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Richard Holbrooke
Richard Holbrooke is a Jew. Should be added to the list.
[edit] References needed
I have commented out the unreferenced names here using the html comment feature (<!-- and -->). These need to have sources for each name listed and should not really be re-added (uncommented) until the source can be provided. Yes, I know some of these are "DUH"s, but we need to be strict when dealing with sources. Mahalo. --Ali'i 16:37, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Golda Meir
I am tempted to add Golda Meir to this list, but I suspect it is the intention of this list to include people who were politicans in the United States and not also Americans who became politicans elsewhere.
- Since no one responded to my earlier (and sadly unsigned) comment, I went ahead and was bold. -Acjelen 15:25, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
- Well an anonymous user removed Golda Meir, but without comment. American Jews is somewhat unclear about whether American Israelis or American expats in Palestine prior to 1947 continue to be American Jews. I'll leave such politicians off this list until I can learn more. -Acjelen 06:21, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- From the Wikipedia article List_of_Irish_American_politicians: Éamon de Valera - President of Ireland [35] "The child of a Spanish father and an Irish mother, de Valera was born in New York City, but moved to Ireland upon the death of his father. He became a teacher of mathematics and an avid supporter of the Irish language movement...' Therefore, such lists should include Americans who become politicians elsewhere, if there should be such lists at all. There are others besides Golda Meir of course. Benjamin Nethanyahu's mother was American, and I believe he held American citizenship until he had to give it up to be an Israeli diplomat. Mewnews (talk) 00:16, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Other section
I trimed the non politicians from this list. Along the same lines, are cabinet members or people that are selected to serve, ect and not elected considered politicians? Do we have a definition for politician? Thanks, --Tom 14:38, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
- I see a section on Economists? Is this appropriate for this list? --Tom 14:40, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
