Talk:List of Italian American mobsters

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This article was nominated for deletion on 18 November 2005. The result of the discussion was keep.

This article was nominated for deletion on 24 March 2008. The result of the discussion was keep.

[edit] Reversion

Taestell,

Regarding your recent edit, as many of the mobsters listed in the Italian-American mobsters category are contantly being added, several mobsters are presently not on the list. Although the list is periodlicly updated it also provides a more detailed listing then the present category describes. If you feel the page should be deleted, instead of redirecting it to a category, you should at least consult the original author before making major changes. MadMax 22:45, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Notability

Are Tony Cipriani and Matthew Giuffre, "Bat Jew" (1989-2006) appropriate contenders to be listed here. Is there a real Tony Cipriani as well as the videogame mobster. And as for Matthew Giuffre. A seventeen year old mobster who was killed this year. Do we have any sources for this. Unlikely but possible for the American mafia more likely to happen in the Sicilian mafia or 'Ndrangheta. Just clearing this up. --Alexbonaro 07:16, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

I am adding and have added a great number of mobsters (Italian-American ofcourse) to the list. Many of them not known to the general public but I am %100 sure of their existance at one stage or another. If you have any queries drop a message here or on my talk page rather then deleting them. Thankyou. --Alexbonaro 10:26, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jan 2007 clean up in order

I just finished removong Italian-American from most of the articles. Now for this list. Should we have so many red links? What about nuking them until the article is created. Also, this list contains <drum roll> zero references?? Why am I not surprised. I guess we are going by the individuals wiki article? I removed Dan Marino and a few others.--Tom 20:10, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Nine-plus months later: This list appears to be the target of a lot of unwatched vandalism. I just reverted/undid four or five entries that either plainly were or strongly smelled of complete fabrication. And that was just from the last dozen or so edits. The list needs to be vetted from top to bottom. All the red links should go, unless there's a secondary article to link them to for verification, and all the blue links need to be checked to make sure they're actually organized-crime figures.--ShelfSkewed Talk 18:14, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jan 2008 cleanup in order

any objections to moving all redlinked items that also lack a reference citation and place them in a section of this talk page. Being on the talk page, they can remain until/if they have WP articles of get references showing the people are actually Italian American and mobsters. I will do this anytime after Jan 26 if no one objects here. Thanks Hmains (talk) 05:56, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Heil mobsters! Siegel Heil!

The ethnical profiling of criminals (such as this article on Wikipedia) is more than suspect in europeans' eyes. List of jewish-mobsters is horrendous due to history, but this huge scroll of italian mobsters is also an abomination.

We should consider that this is EN. wikipedia.org, not US.wikipedia.org (that is general english language wikipedia as opposed to unitedstatesian wikipedia) and thus article modesty policies should apply here which are acceptable for all civilized cultures. The genetic profiling of people according to "race vs. criminality" assumptions is a huge taboo in Europe and elsewhere, even if it is commonplace in USA.

Please relocate this and similar articles to us.wikipedia.org, so they do not lead to blocking of en.wikipedia.org access in many countries which have racism-ban laws! Those who are interested in these kinds of lists will find them on us.wikipedia.org. 82.131.210.162 14:48, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

In the United States, as well as parts of Canada, organized crime has historically been based by ethnicity. The "Cosa Nostra" in particular are closed to non Italian-Americans (although Irish-Americans and others have been hired from time to time for freelance work such as contract killings and armed robbery). I'm not sure I understand your claim that this would consitute as "racism" given Italian-Americans belong to an ethnic group while Judaism is a religion (the Jewish-American mobster list also applying to ethnicity as seen on the related Jewish-American organized crime article). However, you are certainly free to make your comments known on Wikipedia:Village pump. MadMax 19:10, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I totally agree with the User. This list is an abomination. Has it ever been proposed for scrapping — that is, removal from Wikipedia? In great disgust, GeorgeLouis (talk) 06:15, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

If an article proves that someone was Italian-American and a mobster, it belongs on this list. If these articles are accurate, I see no reason why a list of them is racist. The burden is on all of us to produce articles that meet these standards. Rogermx (talk) 22:23, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] John Germanotta

John Germanotta has never had any involvement with the mafia. The inclusion of his name is an insult to a great man. I'd like to know what basis User:Alexbonaro has for including him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peshal (talk • contribs)

Firstly, which John Germanotta are you talking about? Then I can help you by responding adequately. Tell me about this John Germanotta of yours. Alexbonaro 05:00, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] People lacking WP artricles or references to justify being in this list

The following people do not have WP articles and also lack references to justify them being in this list. Keeping them on this talk page allows for further research and possible placement into the article.

[edit] A

Anthony Abbatemarco, "Tony Shots"
Antonino Aiello, "Commerciante"
Sandro Aiosa
Vincent Angellino, "Jimmy"
Anthony Antico, "Tico"
Salvatore Aparo, "Sammy Meatballs"
Anthony Arilotta
Salvatore Aurello, "Toddo"
Carmine Avellino
Louis Avitabile, "The Gump"

[edit] B

Joseph Benanti
Paul Bevacqua, "Paulie Guns"
Joseph Bilotti
Robert Bisaccia, "Bobby Cabert"
Dominick Borghese, "Fat Dom"
Jerome Brancato, "Jerry"
Joseph Brancato
Salvatore Briguglio, "Sally Bugs" (d. 1978)
Adolfo Bruno "Al"
Ludwig Bruschi, "Ninny"

[edit] C

Tommasello Capello, "Tommy Sneakers", "Tommy Twitch", "Tommy Blackjack" (1920 - 1969)
Thomas Cafaro
Rocco Cagno
Frank Calabrese, Sr., "Frankie Breeze"
Frank Calabrese, Jr.
Jody Calabrese
Anthony Calagna
Danyael Shovera Caliberi, "Sho Caliberi"
Frank Calise
Nicholas Camerato
Frank Campanella
Joseph Campanella, "Joe Camp"
John Campopiano, "Johnny Echoes"
Stefano Cannone, "Stevie Beefs"
Dominick Canterino, "Baldy Dom"
Robert Capazzio
Gregory Cappello, "Whitey"
Joseph Cappola, "Joey Caps"
Pat Cappola,
Robert Caravaggio, "Bucky the Boss"
Paul Carbo, "Frank Tucker", "Mr. Fury", "Mr. Gray" (d. 1976)
Thomas Carbonaro, "Huck"
Joseph Carbone
Mike Carbone
James Cardinali, "Jamesy"
Anthony Carillo, "Tony the Sheik"
Ronald Carlucci, "Ronnie Mozzarella"
Thomas Carlucci Jr."T", "Tommy"
Anthony Carminati, "Tony C"
Joseph Carna, "Little Lollipop"
Larry Carna, "Big Lollipop"
Charles Carneglia
Salvatore Carucci
Ernest Casazza
Benjamin Castellazzo
Eugene Castelle, "Bubsie"
John Castellucci, "Big John"
Salvatore Catalano, "Toto"
Dominic Cataldo, "Little Dom"
Vittorio Cavaliere, "Big Vito"
John Cerasani, "Boobie"
Basil Cervone, "Bobby Cherry"
Thomas Cestaro
Thomas Cherubino, "Tommy"
Gerard Chilli, "Jerry"
Joseph Chilli
Dominick Cicale
Louis Cinquegrana, "Louie the Pigeon"
Guido Cirillo
Freddy Civano, "Foxy"
James Clamenza, "Jimmy Green Eyes"
Ettore Coco, "Eddie"
Aniello Colello
Anthony Colombo
Christopher Colombo
Joseph Colombo, Jr.
Jack Colucci
Joseph Colucci, (d. 1970)
Frank Condo, "Frankie California"
Thomas Contaldo
Pasquale Conte, "Patty", "Patsy"
Vincenzo Cotroni, "Vic the Egg"
Jerry Coppola
Ralph Coppola (d. 1998)
Richard Copson, "Little Man"
Gerald Corallo
Blaise Corozzo
Paul Coscia
Joseph Cosentino, "Joey Blue Eyes"
Benny Crapanzano
Patsy Crapanzano
Michael Crincoli
Peter Crociata
Sam Cufari, "Big Nose" (d. 1984)
Ralph Cuomo, "Raffie"