Talk:List of Israeli assassinations

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I have removed the citation tag from the top of this article since most assassinations now have a ref. Joshdboz (talk) 13:33, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] POV Tag.

Article lacks reasoning for targeted killing and additional input on other possible suspects. Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 17:46, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Er, it's a LIST, not an article about the policy per se. And in any event the intro already says "as a response to ..". And finally, be careful what you wish for - someone may come along and insert claims that the reason why Israel engages in this sort of activity is because it's a vicious, terrorist state that operates outside the boundaries of international law. Apologies for "stalking" btw. --Nickhh (talk) 18:06, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

The barely noticeable disclaimer does not make the article neutral and there should be some addition of the mentioned input before we can call this article neutral.

Is there a good reason to exclude the information I mentioned? Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 22:38, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I gave at least two just now - 1) it is a list of events, not a debate about the rights and wrongs of the activity; 2) the information is already there in the lead in any event (I can see it, even if you had difficulty noticing it). Putting in even more detail on how and why Israel justifies or explains these acts will of course not make the article neutral; quite the contrary, it will make it a one-sided apologia. The List of Hamas suicide attacks page doesn't kick off with the claim that they are carried out in response to Israeli aggression and occupation, nor do I see anyone suggesting that it should. --Nickhh (talk) 23:03, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm thinking we should turn the list into a category rather than a List article. Thoughts? Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 23:14, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Disagree about turning into cat and disagree about neutrality tag or accusation of POV. A) It's a list B) It's merely a list. If you would like to deepen the discussion, the place for that is a 'main article' to this list. A very legitimate article.--Shuki (talk) 23:24, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Link? Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 10:28, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi Jaakobou, I'll try to answer your concerns. Article lacks reasoning for targeted killing. Somewhat true, I guess since this is simply a list of assassinations, not an article on the assassinations, descriptions are rather short. Most of the more notable assassinations have an article on the person himself. That being said, if you think reasonings need to be added for certain targets, by all means see what you can do with it. Additional input on other possible suspects. I don't know if you're trying to say that this list is incomplete, or if the responsibility for certain assassinations may have been ascribed to groups other than Israel. In either case, I would again urge you to add more info/describe where you feel it to be necessary. Joshdboz (talk) 13:28, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Joshdboz, I think you understood my concerns perfectly. I figured I'd start by making note of these concerns with a POV tag and a bit of talk... I'm a tad backed up though so I don't think I will be able to go fishing for details on these cases. Maybe someone familiar with the topic can make some basic changes that will help the situation? I know it's a tad annoying to post a tag and then not do anything about it, I'm open for suggestions and compromise though. Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 17:01, 14 February 2008 (UTC)