Talk:List of InuYasha chapters

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[edit] Format

Ok I created a rough format so that we are not just listing scroll titles. What do you think? --88wolfmaster 00:09, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I do not understand how that format works, so if you want me to continue adding scroll titles, you will have to clean up after me. OK? JRSpriggs 10:18, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Thats fine--88wolfmaster 23:29, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

ok, the current setup is going to create a huge table of contents so i'm modifing it.--88wolfmaster 19:20, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Volume
Cover Scrolls
Scroll Title
Scroll Title
Scroll Title

[edit] Volume tiles and scroll numbers

The volumes I have purchased do not have titles other than "InuYasha, vol.4" or some such. And the scrolls within each volume are numbered beginning with 1. JRSpriggs 06:37, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

well i got the info from the viz site (but i could be wrong). as to the scroll numbers, even if they start over the numbering I think for organizations sake we should have an ongoing numbering system. I'll leave the decision to whether to keep the titles or not up to you.--88wolfmaster 23:36, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
OK. I now see that what you are calling the titles of the volumes ARE on the volumes after all, although not on the front cover or the "title" page. They are the headlines of the blurbs or teasers on the back cover, but only about two millimeters high. Still, I suppose that they are better than just a volume number. Those blurbs are the same as at the web site. JRSpriggs 04:44, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
yeah, better than nothing. I'll just make sure they are linked to the vis site for citation purposes.--88wolfmaster 18:53, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Error in scroll numbering

I noticed that there is an error in the numbering of the scrolls. It jumps from 26 to 28 in volume 3. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_InuYasha_chapters&diff=118691950&oldid=118484526 This is an example of how using numbers different from the original source can get us into trouble. JRSpriggs 04:47, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Apparently, 4.167.174.231 (talk ยท contribs) has done us a favor and fixed the numbering. JRSpriggs 09:29, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
awesome. yes i know that its a lot more work this way, but it helps when trying to sort out the number of english chapters.--88wolfmaster 18:45, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What next? Descriptions of whole volumes or of separate scrolls?

Apparently, the original plan was to describe each scroll's contents. However, given the large number of scrolls, I wonder whether it might be better just to give summary descriptions of whole volumes instead. What do you think? JRSpriggs 07:21, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Ok what I was thinking was summarize the volumes, maybe state which anime episodes the vol covers, add release information, and integrate the ISBNs. Also i think we need to cover production information.--88wolfmaster 19:20, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Flopping

I've seen that the inuyasha articles soley refer to the english manga as flopped but in the 2003 2nd edition didn't they put it back to normal--Greedisland14 03:26, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I do not know what you are talking about. I bought volume 28 of the manga in January 2007 and it reads left-to-right as do all earlier volumes of the English version of the manga. Perhaps you are thinking of the ani-manga which reads right-to-left. JRSpriggs 06:54, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Table Format

I've been trying to figure out a good way to incorporate all the information into a single, organized, understandable table. Tell me what you think (example is at: User:88wolfmaster/Sandbox).--88wolfmaster 02:25, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

It looks nice to me. JRSpriggs 07:31, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

I have all the manga which has been translated officially so far. But I have only volume 1 of the ani-manga. And for the anime, I am relying primarily on List of InuYasha episodes and secondarily on my memory of seeing them on television. Consequently, the manga to episode correspondence may have some minor errors at the boundaries between successive manga and successive episodes. Also, notice that some of the episodes appear not to be derived from the manga; and some of them are taken out of order, e.g. Noh mask and Peach man. JRSpriggs 10:10, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


This page sucks, why are there only english chapters listed? Put back all of them or name this list: list of english Inuyasha chapters

[edit] problem

We are already over the 32 KB limit. So do we continue with the volume summaries and disregard the limit or what?--88wolfmaster 06:57, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

I think that that limit is too low, many articles exceed it. However, I agree that we would probably exceed even a more generous limit, if I continue to add the summaries. I see three options: 1. forget the summaries, 2. push the sections into sub-pages and include them by template, or 3. separate the article into several articles (one per section). Option 2 seems like the best idea. However, I have never tried it out. So I cannot be sure that it would solve the problem the way I think it would.
I see that you have encountered the same problem at List of InuYasha episodes. I think that keeping the short summaries of the episodes is vital, because that is the only way I can be sure which episode is which (the titles and numbers are not adequate). JRSpriggs 09:42, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
I had a thought after I signed off last night. The Plot of InuYasha looks like it could use some major work so we could just have all the summaries on that page.--88wolfmaster 19:21, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
That is tempting. But I think that it would not really solve the problem, merely shift it to that article. The underlying difficulty is that InuYasha is just so long that it cannot be summarized in a coherent way without the summary itself being too long to fit in one article. Even my summaries by volume have left out many important facts. For example, I did not even mention Myoga even though he is quite an important character. Any summary of the whole series, divided by volume, would necessarily be extremely long or hopelessly inadequate. JRSpriggs 06:27, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
In other words, to fit a summary of the series into the Plot article, I would have to completely omit any mention of the Noh mask, Mayu, the Peach man, and many other subplots. JRSpriggs 06:43, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Not really. Someone pointed out to me recently that the 32kb is more of a guideline (so as to keep pages easy to load for the browser). the volume summaries are your thing so I leave the decision up to you.--88wolfmaster 03:33, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

I moved the section on volumes 1 through 5 to a subpage and it seems to be working the way I hoped. The only down-side that I see so far is that you have to put the subpage on your watch list separately. JRSpriggs 11:28, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
i dont mind adding the sub page manually.--88wolfmaster 23:59, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

To reiterate what I commented to JRS earlier: this is a very inelegant solution, to something that's not really a problem. The 32K warning is indeed not a "hard" limit, but article size relates mainly to stylistic considerations, and to some extent to consideration for browsers; size of the edit page is largely besides the point, especially as one will generally be editing by section, anyway. And the problem with the 'solution' is that sub-pages aren't technically supported in the article-space any longer: these are accordingly each "top-level" articles in their own right, hence them having shown up in my sweep for uncategorised articles. Indeed, they're currently showing up on the uncat special page: [1]. What I'd suggest is refactoring in accordance with WP:SUMMARY: i.e. condensing the main article, and (if justified on notability grounds), creating additional stand-alone articles covering the elided detail. Obviously this will require time to implement, so I'll hold off on taking any other action in the meantime. Alai 04:00, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Peach man

To whom it may concern: My description of the peach man incident in volume 9 is longer than it might have been because it is quite different from the anime version. JRSpriggs 08:10, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Original appearances

I can't help but feel the synopses for the volumes run a little longer than is ideal, but what would really be nice would be the date and the issue number for each episode/scroll's original appearance in Shonen Sunday. Can anyone provide these? HipsterDad 19:49, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template

# English release date English ISBN
 
 
 
 
 

I plan on slowly converting each section to this format unless there are any objections.--88wolfmaster (talk) 03:06, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List issues

This list needs to be completely redone to include the Japanese release information and chapter titles, to remove the OR anime episode listings, add sourcing, and drop the transclusions completely. That is not an appropriate use of them at all and likely violates Wikipedia guidelines somewhere. Many of the plot summaries are to long and should be rewritten to be 150-300 words in length at most. I have tagged it for all of these issues and alerted the project to the need to overhaul this list. Collectonian (talk) 04:44, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Note, as anyone watching the page has probably noticed, the transclusions are being replaced with a proper, single page list of chapters that are using the proper format. Meanwhile, the plot summaries all need to be trimmed down significantly. Anyone want to tackle this? Collectonian (talk) 02:40, 29 April 2008 (UTC)