Talk:List of Internet phenomena/Archives/2007/May

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RickRoll

Due to the overwhelming occurances of "rickrolls" including the Family Guy rickroll, I think this deserves a place on the list, if it was on there but I overlooked it, I appologize. PvtDonut 71.112.192.153 04:44, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

im in ur/im in your cats

Is there anything on the im in ur or im in your cats anywhere? -Ritarri 14:11, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Lolcat covers the phenomenon of humorously-captioned cats. ("Im n ur" is not specifically mentioned in the article) --George100 14:11, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Suggested additions

I believe The >:3 "JESUS CHRIST IT'S A LION GET IN THE CAR" and Longcat memes deserve mention on this page, as both are prevalent internationally in many sites and a simple Google search (69k for longcat and 8k for the LION (whih doesn't include the ">:3" moniker) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.199.8.185 (talk) 15:51, 9 March 2007 (UTC).

If you can provide reliable sources to attest to their status as Internet phenomena, then they can go on the list. Chris cheese whine 04:41, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

...are you a moron or what? Ask ANYBODY who uses the internet. Jesus christ, how can there be the slightest doubt as to Longcat's status as a meme? 86.76.6.127 10:18, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Incorrect use of 'meme'

'Meme' is not interchangeable with 'fad'.

I don't really consider these fads as good examples of memes. Yes technically they are memes, but only moderately successful ones. EG. A term like "google it" is far far more successful, but obviously wouldn't be suited to this page since you wouldn't call it a fad. This page actually covers very specific fads that are only successful within small groups (relative to the size of the net). I suggest renaming to "Biggest Internet Fads" or some other phrase that doesn't use the word 'meme'. I'm not sure how meme terminology got on here in the first place. Xep 05:55, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

A list of fads would not be suitable for Wikipedia. Chris cheese whine 03:00, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Well this page should just be deleted then. Xep 04:43, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Deletion isn't verifiable by the old media, and I will personally delete any and all deletions. 70.58.114.69 22:46, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't see what that has to do with what I wrote. I wasn't suggesting deletion because unverifiable content, but because according to Chriscf, a list of fads is not suitable for wikipedia. This page is obviously a list of fads. Xep 05:24, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
This article isn't supposed to be a list of fads. It is a "List of Internet phenomena", which suggests something which takes the 'Net by storm, to such a degree that someone somewhere has found cause to write about it. Editors who just insert their favourite 4chan meme are doing it wrong, but there's no need to close the pool just yet. Did I really just say that? Chris cheese whine 05:33, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Fads are a type of meme. --George100 07:13, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes, but not particularly interesting ones or they'd be mentioned on the meme page. Xep 11:52, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

I just wanted to add my opinion--if Richard Dawkins saw this use of meme, he'd roll in his grave. If he were dead. We're using the word meme to justify a list of fads, seriously. And that's just not cool. Somercy 00:01, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Brian Peppers

I'm mystified why this was removed. I realize that Wikipedia has concerns over potential defamation (WP:BLP), but the primary source here is very solid: a state-run online offender registry. There is no reasonable doubt that Peppers does indeed exist, that he is indeed an Internet phenomenon, and that he was indeed convicted of a sexual offense. Perhaps the existence of this phenomenon regarding a physically deformed man is juvenile and/or morally offensive. Nonetheless, under WP:NPOV, it is not our job as an encyclopedia to make such judgments. Our job is to report verifiable facts.

If someone wants to remove this verifiable, sourced material on grounds of WP:BLP or any other policy, please provide a specific citation of the policy language in question. Crotalus horridus (TALK • CONTRIBS) 03:16, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

This has, to say the least, been discussed extensively, in multiple forums across the project. There has been a consistent, strong consensus that this is a non-notable individual and that giving further publicity to these events and providing a platform for mockery of a living person's physical appearance serves no legitimate purpose and is simply an inappropriate thing for what is now one of the top ten websites in the world to do. I am reverting your addition of this material; please do not restore it. Newyorkbrad 03:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Consensus? I remember "putting my foot down, locking this article for a year". Hardly. Oh, and non-notable? You can say that with a straight face? Please, PLEASE type "Brian Peppers" (sure, including the quotes) into Google. About 160.000? Throw in "sex offender" if you think it is a common name. Compare that to the others listed on the page (e.g. Randy Constan, 500 hits, Jeong-Hyun Lim, 900 hits). Or, try this, if you use Firefox: Start typing the name into the Google bar and see what suggestions you get. You sure you wanna stick to your original statement?
80.212.142.143 23:27, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
That's just a count of how many references to Brian Peppers there are on the internet. We don't use crude measures like that. --Tony Sidaway 08:50, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

O rly?

The O rly owl is a notable contribution as is the goatse.cx shock site. I don't see why these shouldn't be included. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Seraphim Whipp (talk • contribs) 17:14, 15 March 2007 (UTC).

It's cool. Found some irrefutable references ^-^
Seraphim Whipp 17:47, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
There is a note at the top of the page saying: DO NOT INCLUDE ANY ENTRIES ON THIS LIST WITHOUT SOURCES DEMONSTRATING NOTABILITY AS AN INTERNET PHENOMENA. This means you need reliable independent sources which attest to a given entry's status as a major phenomenon. Urban Dictionary is not a reliable source. Chris cheese whine 14:13, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Well as you can see from my contirbution to this page, I haven't looked at the whole page's source. I had only edited the section of image, and as a result I had not seen that message. The reference to urban dictionary has been removed. Both the phenomena I have added have reliable sources.
Seraphim Whipp 15:54, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
This reference mentions o rly as a 'legend'. I'll find some more.
Seraphim Whipp 16:05, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
To quote another meme, "your doing it wrong". Look up "legend" in a dictionary. Chris cheese whine 16:08, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
legend n. 3. an inscription, esp. on a coat of arms, on a monument, under a picture, or the like. [1]. Chris cheese whine 16:16, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Whatever, I give up. It's an obvious meme, a phenomenom, a craze. Whatever source I provide will not be good enough. O rly is just one of those things that has been widespread; google returns 1,550,000 results. I edit articles to try and make them better, clearly I did not do that. Before I become too concerned with this, I'm going to leave this page alone.
Seraphim Whipp 16:28, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
There's no such thing as an "obvious" meme. Nobody cares about Google hits - the bottom line is that we need a reliable source which specifically addresses and attests to its status as a Big Thing, not merely in passing. Does this cause a problem for you? Chris cheese whine 16:37, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I have come back to this article to find it's still quite bare. To quote you (Chris) from Talk:List_of_Internet_phenomena#Sourcing:

"Verifiability for the actual things themselves is not an issue where they have articles. We don't need sources on this page testifying to something's existence in that case."

Therefore, why were my edits so contested in the first place? Both of my additions had their own wikipedia articles. Rather than continually removing them, you could have looked for some sources yourself rather than slamming me for trying to improve the article. My edits did not require a leap of faith. I think this article needs to change drastically. If someone adds a well known internet phenomena and it is well known, then it should be left, with a note under the addition, asking someone to find a source for it. It seems utterly ridiculous that this article has been smashed to pieces simply because people would rather remove well known memes and phenomenas, rather than finding sources themselves.
Seraphim Whipp 13:44, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

O RLY? sources: nassau county talking about orly - [2], I would then point to the sources on the O RLY? page already. I believe there is already plenty of sources for the o rly owl. SelfStudyBuddy 20:10, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

I CAN HAS CHEEZBURGER?

This is a pretty big internet phenomenon. I think it deserves a spot. There are currently over 500 similar pictures produced in response to the original (which can be found at http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/i-can-has-cheezburger.jpg ). Many of the other pictures can be found at http://icanhascheezburger.com/, a website that was spawned as a result of the phenomenon.

  • A funny picture of a cat accompanied by Engrish? Wow that is so original, never seen that before! JuJube 02:29, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

The same could be said about any internet phenomenon. That's the thing about them, they aren't really that awesome, but they just catch on. The "happycat" as it is known on the "internets" appears in many many places and is truly an internet phenomenon. I reference: www.cafepress.com/happycat http://wiki.ytmnd.com/Happycat http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Happycat&defid=1406003 http://web.archive.org/web/20031018065704/http://www.happycat.ru/ http://icanhascheezburger.com/(entirely inspired by happycat) http://www.myspace.com/icanhascheezburger http://images.google.ca/images?hl=en&q=happycat&btnG=Google+Search&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi

...I'd say more than just a funny picture of a cat accompanied by Engrish...

  • Let's see what other editors think. I think it takes more than a bunch of links from websites like MySpace and Urban Dictionary... JuJube 20:59, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

The list is only for phenomina which have obtained a mention outside of the internet too. That said, Wired News has picked it up.[3] It's borderline, perhaps we should wait and see what happens? --h2g2bob (talk) 03:01, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

The internet is for...

PORN. Come on, how could anyone forget this video? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.115.4.5 (talk) 19:00, 5 May 2007 (UTC).

Only 1% of websites contain porn --h2g2bob (talk) 02:57, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
He was talking about yet another WoW video on YouTube: The Internet is for PORN!!. I still don't understant what this Wikipedia page is about, but I second the motion to add this video. Maybe what we could instead put an entry on all those World of Warcraft videos. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ruijoel (talk • contribs) 09:41, 7 May 2007 (UTC).
It wasn't originally a wow vid, the audio is from somewhere else. It’s not very notable anyway. Xep 21:10, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
It's originally from the Broadway puppet show Avenue Q. — MichaelLinnear 23:08, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Original internet meme list?

what happened the original list of meme's in the internet meme page that was forwarded/combined to internet phenomena page?

the current grouping of information on this page is a joke compared to the former list on the internet meme page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Brekk (talk • contribs) 06:26, 6 May 2007 (UTC).


Peanut Butter Jelly

This should REALLY be added here, but I can't find any media sources mentioning him. Anyone care to help? Bravemuta 12:49, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Done. I managed to find a Washington Post article through Lexis Nexis that called it an Internet phenomenon :D --- RockMFR 17:44, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Crazy german kid

Why does this redirect here, yet there's no mention of him? Tarc 18:20, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

The redirect doesn't belong without well-sourced coverage here, I've deleted it. --Michael Snow 19:32, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Kissing Hank's Ass

This one is certainly notable; it has been mentioned numerous times on atheist websites and it's a well-known religious parallel. Should be worth including.--Orthologist 16:02, 30 May 2007 (UTC)