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[edit] Reruns?

i missed heroes this monday (the 28th, a week after the finale) and i just wanted to know if their airing reruns now or the heroes origins mini series. cuz the whole thing on origins didnt quite explain itself too much.--Late Leo 14:08, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] information

please put the names of the directors + writers 89.217.24.134 06:32, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree, please put the director names....so we don't have to keep clicking the episode titles for the directors.... Sstrieu 20:36, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Why aren't the director names listed yet???? Sstrieu 23:15, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Saw that the directors are now listed. Thanks! Sstrieu 04:24, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ERRORS

There is an error in the next episode date of 2/26/07, its listed as 2/25/07. I cannot change it for some reason

Not an error at all, airs tonight in Canada, see citation given next to date. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 23:51, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
But is this true for everyone? Unless it airs everywhere on the 25th, it probably should be changed to the 26th. PureSoldier 23:53, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Why would it be changed to 2th because "it doesn't air everywhere", you do realise "it doesn't air everywhere" on the 26th? The field is for original airdates, not "Original American airdates", we go by what's verifiable. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 23:56, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
No need to get hostile. However, if it's airing on both dates, it should be stated as so, and where. I'm looking for a source to verify it for the next day as well. PureSoldier 23:58, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Then put a note on the episode page. You ain't seriously suggesting however we list every worldwide air date for episodes though, here? thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 00:01, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
I am seriously suggesting that if we are to state the air date, then we should be correct about it. Showing Canada's air date is not correct for the United States, and showing the United State's air date is not correct for Canada. So, what would be the best way to be the most correct? Show both dates. PureSoldier 00:05, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Canada's airdate is correct, the cell states (like every other LOE), "Original airdate", Canada *is* the original, regardless. A note on the episode page would probably be appropriate. Remember that Wikipedia doesn't conform to one nations views, it represents a worldwide view, as such the original (ala première airdate) is correct. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 00:10, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Gotcha. I misread the original air date as only air date.PureSoldier 02:56, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

The date for epidsode 17 (Company man) appears to only have been viewable on the 25th in eastern canada. Am i correct?

Global Television Network aired the episode a day early to make room for a new show. I believe they have affiliates as far west as Winnipeg, though someone more in tune (ha!) with Canadian television should feel free to correct me. →Bobby← 14:37, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
According to their web site, Global has affiliates from Halifax to Vancouver Island. They don't necessarily have the same air time in every market. Avt tor 07:39, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
I live in Vancouver, BC and it aired here on the 25th on Global. Gary Steinke
I agree with the statements above that this is not a US centric site, but a world site. However, a date is specific to a time zone. You can't just put a date down without putting a time zone or time. Is there a standard that Wikipedia uses for dates? Perhaps UTC Time (the new way of saying Greenwich Mean Time)?

[edit] Protection

I have gotten this article semi-protected, hopefully this will prevent (at least most) people from changing the air dates. --WillMak050389 22:03, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Plot summary length redux

"Distractions", "Run!", "Unexpected", and "Company Man" (and even "Six Months Ago") all have excessively long plot summaries. I agree that it is importinat to ,mention all of the significant occurrences in a given episode, but Wikipedia is not the place for scene-by-scene verbatim reproduction of every episode. Pages such as "Godsend" and "The Fix" are examples of reasonable-length articles. We should work together to ensure that we don't go overboard in our episode summaries. - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 18:12, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] episodes number

i think that season 1 has 23 episodes planned for so should we post blank entrys to show that?

Where did you here that? I haven't seen anything saying there would be 23 episodes, and besides, most tv shows only have 20 episodes. Arwen undomiel 17:15, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Entries should only be placed once there is verifiable information, i.e. TBA cells are unneeded. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 17:20, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
actually, the first season will have 22. it was announced when they said they would pick heroes up for a full season... -Xornok 17:28, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Further to the above, shows tend to have 22-24 shows per season. Sci-Fi has done a number of 20-episode seasons, for Stargate and BSG, but the major nets usually go a bit longer. --Ckatzchatspy 17:42, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
In an interview from Wizard Universe (TV Q&A: HEROES—TIM KRING), Tim Kring states Volume I (which spans all of season 1) will have 23 episodes. Jeff Loeb adds in another Wizard Universe interview (TV Q&A: HEROES—JEPH LOEB) that NBC wanted more episodes but there wasn't enough time to produce more than 23. - fmmarianicolon | Talk 20:12, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Correct. There will be a total of twenty-three episodes this season. Thus it makes sense to post TBA entries for the final five of the season. I know how much trouble it was for me to find out when the season finale was. Having the info on Wikipedia makes it a lot easier. -alongwaltz 16:41, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 119 Air date

The list has the Air date for 119 as April 23 but the two referencing pages both list episode 119 as airing next week, I'm wondering if anyone has a reference for the delayed air date? It doesn't seem very appropriate to show that kind of break in the schedule without any reference. -Tomaszkolo 03:27, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

There isn't any sorce for the airdates of episodes 19 - 23. I recommend stating "no airdate released" until one of the official websites states otherwise.-L_001_002 03:32, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes there is. It is April 23. [1] Arwen undomiel 03:40, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Episode 20

There is some information avalible about episode 20. We know that it takes place at least partially in the future (5 years hence) and that most of the heroes will be dead in this possible future. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.189.155.40 (talk) 04:34, 5 March 2007 (UTC).

..... -Xornok 05:11, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
I didn't want to believe it, but he's right. At least about the future bit. Jack Coleman[1] and Greg Grunberg[2] have both said it. The Coleman bit is second-hand(from a radio interview), but Greg's statement is word for word. Huh. Five years later. Weird. Valaqil 20:49, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
in perspective it's not really the weirdest or least plausible thing on the show. it's likely the future hiro is now visiting.130.126.130.178 16:10, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

I will take your word(s) for it about episode 20, however if anyone can find the reference this information comes from can they citate it in the main article because after a quick search I couldn't find anything to back up your claims about episode 20. Valerieg 00:10, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

heres the page about it being in the future for episode 20 - http://spoilerfix.com/heroes.php

[edit] .07%

It is not just TV.com giving information about .07%, so would people please stop removing info on the episode? http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/photos/general/ and many other reliable sites have talked about .07% Arwen undomiel 19:48, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I've added references to official photos from NBC and the news report from CBR. - fmmarianicolon | Talk 20:33, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Series

when does the first season end and when it does well there be others? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.16.89.117 (talk) 03:09, 18 March 2007 (UTC).

The first season will end with the next episode, ".07%". A second season has already been announced by NBC. dposse 16:40, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
??? I'm presuming you meant after five more episodes... the next batch starts with .07%, followed by four more. --Ckatzchatspy 20:32, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Correct--the season finale isn't until May 21. Arwen undomiel 20:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New episode titles

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=40615


According to Sci-Fi Wire, see link above.

Episode 22: "Landslide" Episode 23: "How to stop an Exploding Man"

http://www.herosite.net/herositespoilers.htm

and from HeroSite.net

Episode 20: "String Theory Episode 21: "The Hard Part" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Heroesfan40 (talk • contribs) 16:43, 19 March 2007 (UTC).

Spoilerfix.com cannot be considered as a reliable source. I think we have to remove the entries. -- Magioladitis 00:48, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

No, I don't think we need to remove them. There are now several reliable sites naming the next four episodes, the sources cited in the article are just a few. Arwen undomiel 01:11, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I found a reference at heroestheseries.com which redirected to scifi.com. Scifi.com is a fairly reliable source, I would say. Valaqil 13:10, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Ok. Can someone make a general icon for the future episodes like the one in the List of Jericho episodes? -- Magioladitis 19:37, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Screen captures and fair use

Ed's trying it at List of The Wire episodes now (removing them), he's also trying to get the FUC reworded to effectively "ban" screen captures, Wikipedia_talk:Fair_use#Screenshots_2. Matthew 15:41, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Attempt to create precedent disallowing individual episodes

There is discussion at WP:AN/I#Fancruft_issue_again, and an AfD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kept Man that is attempting to create a precedent disallowing individual episodes. - Peregrine Fisher 18:09, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

User:Peregrine Fisher and User:Matthew are attempting to vote stack this AfD by telling other users that this AfD will effect unrelated episode articles. This AfD is only about this set of articles, and stands on it's own. AfD is not a vote. Editors coming here to support a different show's set of episode articles should take the time to comment on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kept Man situation individually. -- Ned Scott 18:54, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Usage of images in LOEs

There's presently a discussion at WP:AN in regards to image usage in LOEs. With several having gone as far to edit war in the hopes of removing images. You are invited to participate and give opinions, so that another consensus (of many) may be reached, again. Matthew 12:20, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Wow, this looks so empty now.--156.56.151.21 00:16, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Agreed, it looks kinda depressing.Toxic Ninja 00:19, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
Could someone please give me a link to the discussion? Jakk55 18:22, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Season 2

The summary for season 2 is wrong, the reference link cannot be followed because it says "http://http" and even after following it,to Kristin's blog, nowhere does it say anything close to the summary given. Can some admin correct this? And Why is the page protected, I mean the season is over and I am guessing there will be less vandalism, isn't it? eZio 06:49, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

The season ends on May 21, as far as the comment above this page, the page was protected so people stopped editing the air dates. Vicco Lizcano 14:40, 3 May 2007 (UTC) (Hey! Listen!)
Oops! Wonder why I thought that the season is done! eZio 14:53, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
I fixed the http://http typo. Cburnett 15:00, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Could you also fix reference link number 4, it doesn't point to anything eZio 09:20, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Done. Cburnett 12:47, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] typo

At the bottom, under season 2, I think it should be "M.O." or "MO" and should link to "Modus operandi" instead of the current "m.o." HOwever, I cannot edit. DrIdiot 22:46, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

I have seen it abbreviated as m.o. in the American Heritage New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy. [2] I'm pretty sure it could be abbreviated either way, but it should be abbreviated to MO to ensure continuity with Modus operandi. Arwen undomiel 00:50, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Done. Cburnett 12:48, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
I can't see the link to "Modus operandi", or has it been reverted?


I would also think that the "'cause" should be changed to "because" as per an attempt at some sort of formality in the writing. Thanks! Michaeloz 17:09, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Episode....

could someone update the first sentence to show 21 episodes aired? thankee you..... Purples 04:16, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

I'll unprotect the page. Please do not add the images back without project-wide consensus. CMummert · talk

Done. Cburnett 01:04, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you admins! - Purples 01:05, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Whoops

I messed up the bottom of the page where it lists the characters, episodes and etc... I really didnt mean to, could someone fix it back [Admins]

[edit] Episode titles (105 and 119) revert

Edits were made in good faith. Sources: http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/episodes/season1/105/ http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/episodes/season1/119/--unsigned

Those links don't make the titles wrong, just shows the NBC web team didn't proof-read. Matthew 09:23, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Episode Summaries and What Wikipedia is not

In 5 days (June 25, 2007) I will be redirecting any Heroes episode articles that do not have "real-world context and sourced analysis" as per WP:NOT#IINFO to List of Heroes episodes. I also posted this notice to WikiProject Heroes talk page, please comment there to keep the discussion in one place. Thank you. --Phirazo 17:51, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Please refer to Gwinva's note here. There is a proper process for reviewing episode articles, as defined through WP:EPISODE. Five days notice plus blind redirection will only cause problems, especially since the Heroes project already has plans for improving the articles. Thanks. --Ckatzchatspy 19:20, 20 June 2007 (UTC)


Kevin Smith will direct the pilot episode of Heroes: Origins. It will premiere on April. In Heroes there will be a new female character named Monica from New Orleans. Heroes will also be released as a comic I think by DC. It is confirmed that Alex Ross and Jim Lee will do the art for some of the covers. I read all this in a reliable site and I didn't know if you were aware of this new info. I hope I was of help.

[edit] Tim Kring Interview With The Guardian

The part under Season 2 about Tim Kring's interview with the Guardian is totally false. There has been no such interview. I've checked.

Uwaisis 12:49, 15 August 2007 (UTC)uwaisis

[edit] Never Before Aired Piolot and Deleted Scenes

Hi, I'm new. I was just wondering if there should be a plot summary page for the unaired pilot on the season one DVD. Also, I was wondering if there should be a list and short description of the deleted scenes, perhaps on the pages of the episodes they were deleted from. --Lord of Narf 23:25, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

The unaired piolot could be of some interest on the main Heroes page and maybe this page, however deleted scenes arn't needed.--Wiggstar69 23:02, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] wtf?

Whoever wrote the episode info for season 2 episodes 3-5 is clearly about 11 years old. Can someone please delete all that garbage? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.30.212.61 (talk) 05:09, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Season Episode 1

It states, "Takezo Kensei (new series regular David Anders)" Please remove that, I doubt that David Anders will be playing Takezo Kensei. Also, other sites state that his character will be named kane? ?????? I guess it was correct afterall But wtf, why does the good asian guy always turn out to be a white guy? (ie, the last samurai)......

 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.8.8.182 (talk) 01:25, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Maya J

LOOKING FOR HEROES TRIVIA. 70.48.242.206 04:32, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Season 2

I removed all that writing for season 2 because it isn't needed anymore. We now have the table of all the epsidoes and most the information is already in the episode summaries. (Wikirocks2 13:45, 27 September 2007 (UTC))

Please stop adding the information for season 2! Whoever is doing it: STOP!! It is no longer needed! The season has started, and all that information is useless now. We do not need it! (Wikirocks2 04:27, 28 September 2007 (UTC))

Speaking of, I'd like to point out a couple things. Because of the table format, you cannot cite episode titles, because the cite gets stuck inside the quote mark of the episode title. I put in a request at the template for a change so that the quote marks need to be added manually, which would allow for citations to exist beside what they are citing. Anyway, moving on to season two...the source for the title "Lizard" is nonexistent. It goes to an NBC search engine, and when you hit enter zero results pop up. And Wikirocks, we aren't a current events source, we should keep all relevant history on the development of the show that we have verification for. If you had a source that verified an airdate, you should not remove it when the episode actually airs.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 14:05, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Well I have no problem with you deleting the table and making a new table format. Be my guest. Anyways I believe we should delete all that information under season 2. We do not need it. Why don't any of the other TV shows have info in the "List of Episode" pages?? I just believe we should delete the information. But of course I am sure you [Bignole] will find something wrong with what I have to say and discredit it! I look forward to your response.... (Wikirocks2 03:37, 30 September 2007 (UTC))
Different articles do things different ways. Look at Lost (season 3). It's a "List of episodes" page, that looks nothing like this page. Though, I think relevant info should be moved above the table, because from what I read it looks like information discussing events leading up to season two, and then beyond. But I'm not the authority on anything, merely expressing my opinion. Since Ckatz reverted your removal, there's obviously objection to its non-existence, which means further discussion from as many people as can be found.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 04:21, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

here is a LINK FROM NBC that confirms the title of LIZARDS for episode 2 http://nbc.epk.tv/view.aspx?request=show&show=heroes —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.168.220.243 (talk) 16:38, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Well I must say, this page is certainly looking better... (Wikirocks2 16:44, 30 September 2007 (UTC))

The link for the episode titled "lizards" currently redirects to the artice on lizards, can someone fix this please? --Lord of Narf 04:24, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

"Matt seeks allies against the new Hero killer" is under Lizards. I don't understand this statement, I saw no evidence regarding this in the episode. --Mjrmtg 16:16, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I can't figure out why the plot summaries to the unaired episodes keep getting deleted. I've put them back up, but feel like I'm missing something. 124.170.122.209 05:24, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Maybe the text beneath the edit window that you see each time you edit an article can provide a clue:
"Do not copy text from other websites without a GFDL-compatible license. It will be deleted."
It's a core policy. You are still free to add a summary, but you will have to rewrite it in your own words. — Edokter • Talk • 09:33, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Can somebody changes the season list for Season 2? Season 2 only has 11 episodes and then Season 3 starts.Mlooijen (talk) 14:57, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Volume two is over... we don't know about season two, and won't until there is some official announcement from NBC. (Think of the volumes as creative groupings for storylines acording to the creators, whereas the seasons are production groupings per the contract with the broadcaster.) --Ckatzchatspy 18:52, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Future episode sources

Hello. I am new. Not sure how to sign. Anyway, someone keeps deleting the chart with the episode titles and sources that I have been reposting. I am assuming they delete it because I have not cited a source. So, here is my source. Can someone please tag it on to the chart so that it wont be deleted again. My source is from NBC.com and has episode titles and previews and blurbs and list who will star in that episode. here is the link from nbc, http://nbcumv.com/entertainment/storylines.nbc/heroes.html

http://nbcumv.com/entertainment/storylines.nbc/heroes.html

http://nbcumv.com/entertainment/storylines.nbc/heroes.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.168.220.243 (talk) 02:26, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

No, your sources are to the Futon Critic. Which mentions only one episode title. Which I've reverted multiple times. So stop it. Will (talk) 07:25, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

If u look at the links above, u obviosly can see that the sources are nbcmedia village. it is the site where nbc releases it press packages and press releases. so i am changing the chart back. thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.168.220.243 (talk) 15:33, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

can someone unprotect the page. i have stated my sources so i dont understand why i can not make my edits. my source is from nbc.com. so, whats the problem? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.168.220.243 (talk) 15:37, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

sorry i havent been signing. still not sure how to sign. --76.168.220.243 16:02, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

At the end of your statment type 4 tildes together (~) and it will sign it for you Mjrmtg 20:54, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] episode 6 title and details

episode 6 will be called

the line

the source is http://nbcumv.com/entertainment/storylines.nbc/heroes.html

over AT NBC--76.168.220.243 05:20, 6 October 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Kindred- Sylar returns

write it down in the plot box thing.also, there needs to be a better link to the episode summary. the title of the episode is "kindred" not "kindred spirits" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.246.148.8 (talk) 00:12, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Season != Volume

If I recall correctly, Tim Kring or someone else stated that Volume Two will not comprise the entirety of the second season (additionally, Vol. 2 technically began in HtSaEM). Based on this, I don't think we should be equating seasons to volumes by stating their titles in the contents box. I think there is a place for the Volume information, but I don't know specifically what it is. --iTocapa t 01:43, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Volume three began in the last episode, did it not? Or perhaps the one before it. Matthew 07:31, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Volume two started with both HtSaEM and FML. If you hadn't noticed, Heroes overlaps its cliffhangers and episode starts a lot. Will (talk) 11:09, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Color

The second season's color is currently grey, which blends into the page. Can we get a new one? Thanks, –thedemonhog talk • edits • box 23:17, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Changed to metallic gold (I'm trying to replicate the eclipse). Will (talk) 23:20, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
I've updated the colour again as I don't believe that the "replication" went very well with the page. I've used a pastel black. Matthew 16:42, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Why are the colours so emo? Could we make em like blue and green? (Wikirocks2 06:31, 18 October 2007 (UTC))
Because we write crappy poetry, wear girls jeans and listen to FOB. Will (talk) 12:49, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Haha, very funny! (Wikirocks2 (talk) 12:16, 13 December 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Revert explanation.

Edit box was too small:

I see no reliable/official sources on the article that indicate that either Season/Volume 2 will end on December 3, 2007. The strike may not even effect Heroes beyond Origind being shelved; we cannot speculate the length or effects of the strike. Will (talk) 18:41, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Season 2 consists of volumes 2 and 3. Season 2 was picked up for 24 total episodes with Volume 2 coming to an end after 11, which airs Dec 3. Regardless if there is a strike or not volume 2 ends Dec 3. However, its unclear when volume 3 will resume again due to the strike. Grande13 20:17, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the source. Will (talk) 20:20, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] episode summary format

I think there needs to be a general guide for the episode plot summary. Some are in the order of character plot events while other are in chronological order for the episode. At best can it be decided what format to use when posting the plot summary on an episode page? Macgyver Tape 20:30, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

If you're talking about individual episode articles, it should be noted that work is on progress to overhaul all of the episodes' plot summaries, but it isn't yet very far along. When I was condensing them, I tried to condense each character's story into a single paragraph. For the most part, I ordered them by first appearance in the particular episode, except where it needed to be done otherwise to mesh well with the entire summary. --iTocapa t 03:09, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Heroes: Origins

...I just thought that since this is a "List of Episodes" page, Heroes: Origins isn't needed. The summary already is on the main page...why repeat it? Since there is no longer going to be any episodes (in the near future anyways) I think it should be removed. (Wikirocks2 08:24, 7 November 2007 (UTC))

Actually, point taken. Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance is only mentioned once in the BSG LOE, not ten times. Will (talk) 11:26, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Ok, cool. (Wikirocks2 05:34, 8 November 2007 (UTC))
I've restored (and rewritten) the text. Sorry, but it is directly relevant to the article. --Ckatzchatspy 07:32, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
I just don't understand why we need it. It is just repeating info for no reason. (Wikirocks2 08:15, 8 November 2007 (UTC))
Why are we repeatig the origins info soooooo much? i mean, it is on the main page and then it has a seperate page. it needs to be removed. honestly, if someone needed info on origins, why would they come to the episode page when they could just click the origins link on the heroes template. on the main page, their was a discussion to more origins from the plot summary section to production and the change was made. same change here. especially since the info on origins is word for word the same as the main page. I say delete the information. pointless info on the wrong page. no eps have been produced, therefore, it is irrevelant to this page.I say delete the information Agree or disagree?--Chrisisinchrist 04:07, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
There, it's been rewritten to focus directly on the connection to season two, the desire to avoid the ratings slide in season one, and the fact it is now on hold. Details about the series itself are removed, as the main article covers them. This should address any concerns voices above, while retaining relevant, sourced information. --Ckatzchatspy 10:09, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
The rewording is much much better. Now the section serves an encyclopedic purpose, rather that just repeating info. great compromise user: CKATZ. I think this is better.--Chrisisinchrist 18:48, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Volume Three: Villains.

That source was obviously wrong. The third volume will be called "Villains", not "Exodus". Anyone who just saw the ending to "Powerless" saw this to be true. Once Greg Beeman gets a new blog post up, then we can source it properly. dposse 03:08, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ratings table

I have noticed that for a lot of new shows, a ratings table for individualy episodes has been put into the "list of episodes" page. I think this would be great for Heroes. Most of the individual articles already have the ratings and sources ready, so all we would have to do is insert them in the table. We may not be able to find ratings for all episodes straight away, but I believe if we work together we can do it.....wow that sounded so inspirational! ;) Well what do we think? (Wikirocks2 (talk) 12:15, 13 December 2007 (UTC))

Looking at the episode articles, there seems to be no sources for the ratings. :( Now we have double the work. :( (Wikirocks2 (talk) 12:31, 13 December 2007 (UTC))
they usually have ratings section per season. like a season one ratings, season two and so on and so fourth. we have only had one complete season of heroes, so it probably would be wise to wait until at least the end of season two. put if you are talking about an episode by episode ratings chart, i like that. but, i dont know if anyone would support it. maybe you should take this conversation to the main page of the project page so more people can repsond and give their opinions on the matter. --Chrisisinchrist (talk) 19:06, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
I thought that I had already responded to this. Maybe I forgot to hit "save page"… Anyway, I can get on this in the next few days. Do we want an extra column or a separate table? –thedemonhog talk • edits 08:09, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
I think that the seperate table is more clearer and concise. It makes comparing ratings easier. Thanks for doing this and if you need any help I'm always here. (Wikirocks2 (talk) 08:58, 17 December 2007 (UTC))
Always? Well, that's kind of creepy.  ;) I prefer an extra column, but let's hear what others have to say. –thedemonhog talk • edits 15:35, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
OK, maybe always is a bit exaggerated, lol. I guess we should wait until we get more of a consensus. Oh yeah, and thanks to you, I Wikirocks now! No more being number 2. :D (Wikirocks (talk) 05:40, 18 December 2007 (UTC))
It seems like this is going nowhere. What should we do?  Wikirocks  02:10, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, yesterday (or two days ago Wikipedia time), I added the ratings for the second season. I just have not gotten around to do season 1 yet. And please, other editors, let us know that you are there. –thedemonhog talk • edits 04:14, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Oh ok, I didn't realise you insterted them. It looks really good! Good job. (  Wikirocks  04:26, 21 December 2007 (UTC))
Each rating now has a citation. –thedemonhog talk • edits 21:12, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
OK, cool! We did it! ...or rather you did it! lol. You did do most of the work....but I think I can take 1% credit. ;)  WikiRocks  02:10, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Page format

I love with what has been done to the page. The whole lead in is fantastic and it really is looking good now. Well done!  WikiRocks  05:53, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

When I finish rewriting the summaries in the next couple days, I will be taking this to WP:FLC. –thedemonhog talk • edits 06:32, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
...I don't know what it is, but the summaries are wierd. Some are an overview of the episode, some state the storylines of the featured characters, and others have spoilers which aren't really necessary. I think we should chose one way to write all of them. Щіκі RoςкЗ(talκ) 05:18, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
I've only rewritten up to "Godsend." It's a work in progress. –thedemonhog talk • edits 07:16, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
I have now rewritten each summary. I will read it over and edit some more. I would appreciate feedback from other editors. –thedemonhog talk • edits 07:30, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
I find the summaries very plot spoiling orientated, and you know how I feel about spoilers. I am not very fond of the summaries, but I guess another editor will the they are excellent, as everyone has different views. I commend you on rewriting all the summaries and I think you did a good job. Щіκі RoςкЗ(talκ) 14:49, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
The FLC is here. –thedemonhog talk • edits 19:36, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Truth & Consequences

Did I miss something? Because it seems the page for this episode has been deleted. What happened? Щіκі RoςкЗ(talκ) 09:56, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

AFD result due to notability concerns. Will (talk) 12:14, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
OK, but that's so random. Most of the other individual episode pages are like that too. Why just randomly delete that one? Щіκі RoςкЗ(talκ) 12:52, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
I've established the notability now. Will (talk) 15:04, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
OK. Thanks for that. :) Щіκі RoςкЗ(talκ) 16:22, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Centralized TV Episode Discussion

Over the past months, TV episodes have been redirected by (to name a couple) TTN, Eusebeus and others. No centralized discussion has taken place, so I'm asking everyone who has been involved in this issue to voice their opinions here in this centralized spot, be they pro or anti. Discussion is here [3]. Even if you have not, other opinions are needed because this issue is affecting all TV episodes in Wikipedia. --Maniwar (talk) 23:48, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Episode Summaries

None of these episodes fall under wikipedia's notability clause, and we should delete all of the page long summaries. They fall under the category of something in the heroes wiki. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.6.113.158 (talk) 04:11, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Please see the section above this one. –thedemonhog talk • edits 07:49, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Colours

Demonhog must you insist on having colours that look like barf? I agree that white isn't a really good colour, but at lest make it blend in with the rest of the page! Corn.u.co.pia Discussion 06:17, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I was trying to get an orange that didn't look like the new messages banner. Feel free to change it. –thedemonhog talk • edits 06:36, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Season 3 episode titles

Found the first four here. I'd edit them in myself, but it's late, so I don't feel like messing with the table code right now.-Jeff (talk) 04:31, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, but do not edit in these titles. We need confirmation from either NBC, a producer or an actor on the show. For all we know, those titles were made by a fan, gained popularity and have become popular around the Internet. Are they true? Probably, but inclusion would violate WP:CRYSTAL and WP:RS. Sorry, –thedemonhog talk • edits 06:06, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
My mistake then, I saw the same site linked in anther article so I thought it was a reliable source.-Jeff (talk) 18:32, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Series overview table width

I liked it when it was 98% because it matched the other tables. –thedemonhog talk • edits 19:48, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

No hostility here, but I like it better now. It is clearly distuinguished from the actual episode lists, and there is no point in having it too large. Corn.u.co.pia ♥ Disc.us.sion 06:48, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't see how it is too large and is still clearly distinguished from the other tables because it is a different colour and title. Input, please, –thedemonhog talk • edits 18:02, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Well I know of at least one other editor who likes it small. I don't really mind the size of the table, but I think we should find consensus as to whether it should be big or small. Corn.u.co.pia ♥ Disc.us.sion 05:06, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Heroes Episodes for Season 3 Titled

Hey I just found some possible titles for the first 4 episodes of Season 3 of Heroes. Here is a link to the source-

http://www.tv.com/heroes/show/17552/episode_guide.html?season=3&tag=season_dropdown;dropdown;2

I started to edit the page, but had no idea and would probably end up here anyway apologizing for goofing up the page. So there's a link I found. Glad to be of help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Earlman27 (talk • contribs) 02:17, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Please see above discussion. –thedemonhog talk • edits 04:24, 27 May 2008 (UTC)