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[edit] superpowers?

superpowers sounds soooo corney!!! lol. can we change it to minor characters with powers or minor characters with special abilities?--76.168.220.243 05:35, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

"Special abilities" would be fine by me :) Just as long as we change the term in List of characters in Heroes as well. However, it's ought to be discussed at the talk page of List of characters in Heroes before changing though. Pjär80 05:42, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
Coming to think of it, "special abilities" is the term used by the producers and in the show, and given that I moved the page. Hope it doesn't upset anyone. Pjär80 13:06, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alchemy?

I get the reference, but it should just be "turn matter to gold". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.241.255.250 (talk) 17:23, 5 October 2007 (UTC)


How abot "Midas Touch" amd link yto an article on King Midas? All hes been shown to do is turn things to gold. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.214.142.172 (talk) 02:16, 19 October 2007 (UTC)


Alchemy? Alchemy is magical. We have yet to come across a character with sheer magical powers. Bob's power is molecular. Not only was it implied but Tim Kring said it. Bob has the power to alter and manipulate the molecular structure of inanimate objects. If he wanted to he could've turned that metal spoon into a golden coin. Elemental5293 (talk) 22:41, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

  • Alchemy isn't magical, it was regarded as a science for a long time. It seems to me that Bob only changes the base material. So he could turn the spoon iron, platinum, or maybe even wood, but it would still be a spoon. 75.80.139.24 (talk) 16:20, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rollo Fusor

Hm... Rollo Fusor didn't have any special abilities (as said in the articl). The passage should be replaced by "Rollo Fusor's partner". Right? Pjär80 16:16, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I don't think it was conclusively shown that Matt's Dad was Molly's Boogeyman.

Molly looked at he picture, and started screaming, this shows that someone on the picture was the boogeymen. Others I have discussed this with, cited the issues of when molly searched for Matt's Dad was when she got put in an unconscious state, but considering the way Molly's power is show, that the Boogeyman can see her when she thinks of him. It is plausible that she could have thought of Matt's Dad and the Boogeyman could have been in that house with him, and sensed Molly looking too closely. I may be wrong about that, but what is simply true is that Molly never said "Matt your dad is the boogeyman" or anything like that, she just began to get upset, before they could confirm what she was saying. So all that should be said is that the boogeyman is on of the 12 older Heroes. 70.21.119.27 14:48, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

As a point of order, Sylar is the Boogeyman. Matt's dad is the person Molly says is "worse than the Boogeyman". Matt pointed to his father in the picture, and Molly freaked out and said "Please don't make me find him... He is the nightmare man." If she was referring to someone else in the picture, this would not make sense; Matt was asking her to find his dad, not anyone else, but Molly reacted as if she has been asked to find the nightmare man. If it were someone else in the picture, Molly would have said so, and she wouldn't be so afraid to find Matt's dad. Wanderer32 01:36, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Last night's episode, Fight or Flight (Heroes) confirmed that Matt's father was indeed the person Molly found. His own statements and the use of his power also prove that he is the nightmare man. ZZ Claims ~ Evidence 20:18, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Hes the Nightmare man, not the BoogyMan. Baaleos 16:04, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
He is both the "Nightmare" and the "Boogy" man. When she looks for him she is taken away to his house (in her mind) she says that is what he has been trying to do. He scares people. He locked Matt in a room with his wife and Nathan where his brother "died". Maury is conclusively the boogey man also because all of the people (as of last episode) have been tracked down. She wouldn't call the mysterious woman the boogey man. And whoever stated Sylar is "worse than the boogey man" you are correct. But he is not the boogeyman. He doesn't have a power that would let on that he had a power to manipulate the mind (except telekinesis). thanks!! Hooty88888 (talk) 19:45, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
No, How to Stop an Exploding Man showed that Sylar was the boogeyman, and Maury was shown to be the Nightmare Man in Fight or Flight. KC109 (talk) 23:14, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Molly to Have her own article

I think it has been confirmed that Molly Walker is going to play a big part in the second series. I think I know how . . . but before I get to that point, I think somone should make an attempt at giving her an article. ♠ Anyhow, I believe, believe it or not, that the person who killed Kaito Nakamura was "MOLLY", I believe Matt Parkman's dad is using his power to get into her dreams, and using her power of "Clairevoyance" (maybe wrong spelling) to in a way, astral project to the people he is trying to kill. I know her power isnt "Astral" Projection initially, but then again, Matt's power wasnt initially being able to "speak into minds" either. How much you wana bet that everytime somone has been attacked by the "killer" that Molly has been having a nightmare, also, put this together with the drawings she has been doing, people's faces with Helix over them. (Like the photo's, one could argue, that these photo's are the images she is being shown while asleep, to make her "project" to her victims.)

I dont think she is evil, but I think an evil person, Parkman's dad, is using her power to do Evil.
I know this is original research, but I would ask people to leave this paragraph intact, just in case it turns out I got the plot right on the head. (proves how intuitive I was :P)Baaleos 16:11, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Second part of this article is void. We already know that the killer is Adam Monroe/Takezo Kensei. Hooty88888 (talk) 19:48, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Molly should have her own article and plays a big role. I hear that she may become a regular. But anyway, the reason Molly was drawing those nightmarish pictures was because I think her cliarvoyant powers are psychic and being a psychic is naturally drawn to the king of psychic powers, telepaths and telepathy and since Maury is the Nightmare Man she probably is drawn to him and therefore sees what he is doing and what he is even thinking about due to a psychic link established. That's what I say. How do you get pictures on here? Elemental5293 (talk) 22:47, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

We should probably hold off on the personal opinions. We should all probably stick to fact for now :) Hooty88888 (talk) 00:11, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ted Sprague to be merged in here

Information in Ted Sprague article is mainly plot description and certainly can be shortened enough that the character joins the main article. -- Magioladitis 19:59, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

I've got no objection. He was central to the season one plot, but that doesn't make him a major character. That being said, we need to keep track of where we put people. We are starting to get quite a few articles going and I'm starting to question some of them (Like, do we really need a separate list of Minor Characters vs. Minor Characters with Abilities?). Padillah 14:56, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
I have not problem with the minor characters/minor char. with abilities separation (maybe we have to reconsider in the future of course). My biggest problem is the new articles for characters poping up "just in case the become important" like Alejandro for example. The normal tactic is that IF some character is worth mentioning THEN we have to make a separate article. -- Magioladitis 15:40, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

The decision to make seperate pages for Bob and Molly Walker was discussed on the main page discussion board and agreed upon. their were no objections.--Chrisisinchrist 16:32, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

I am referring go the Alejandro article and to the Charlie one (which was deleted after some time). I've no problem with the Bob article but I believe in the future we may write one for the "12" alltogether. -- Magioladitis 16:43, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

No, I disagree. If Ted is put in, why not put Eden in too? Ted was far more important to the plot. Moreso than Claude as well, and Hana. As such, it's worth keeping the main guest stars out. Either only have active guests, or keep the main ones. Aside from Angela and Linderman, Ted's the most deserving of a page there is. Just needs a bit of tidying up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.254.81.69 (talk) 22:51, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I think we have to merge Eden as well. Sorry. -- Magioladitis 22:58, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

And Hana, Claude and the big one I forgot, CANDICE. Who has not been critical to the plot in any way. If you merge Ted, all 5 should go in. Alejandro shouldn't have been made in the first place. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.65.245.79 (talk) 17:51, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I already have proposed Alejandro for merging and I never supported the creation of an article for him. Hana plays an important role in the novels and in the Heroes 360 experience. for the other I don't know. The problem with the article about Ted is that mainly consists from plot description and I'm pretty sure this information can be shortened. If someone improves the article I' ll change my opinion. As you see I didn't merge it yet but I'm waiting for suggestions. --Magioladitis 18:19, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Please give me until the end of Sunday night (UK time). Ted will be a strong wikipedia article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.254.81.29 (talk) 21:55, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Hey. You have more time if you want. Friendly, Magioladitis 22:28, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Don't merge Ted Sprague's article with the minor charachters article.

yeah, a bit more time... say this sunday? sorry, interview at cambridge dec 3rd is distractin me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.254.83.148 (talk) 21:44, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I didn't touch the article! I believe thta you want to fix it. You have more time if you want. Please sign your comments. Friendly, Magioladitis (talk) 00:01, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Claude should stay, but Ted, Alejandro, and Candice should be merged, since they're dead. I think D.L. could stand to remain his own article for a while, at least. --Piemanmoo (talk) 06:31, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Easy. Just the main characters keep their articles. All the relevant info is covered there. For minor characters, a brief summary is enough. And merge Claude as well. You can see, how nicely this can be done, check Alejandro. For example for Claude: A former employee by the company who can become invisible. When he decided to quit, the company decided to kill him. He escaped, leaving the company convinced that they finished him off. Later, when Peter Petrelli meets him, he becomes his mentor and teaches him how to control his acquired powers. And that's more or less enough. --Tone 20:55, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Those with Unknown Abilities

Specifically, the others at the head of the Company. It has been said a few times that the core founders of the company were all people with special abilities. This means that Mr. and Mrs. Petrelli, Kaito Nakamura, and Charles Deveaux (and those other one-off minor characters) all have (or had) abilities. Anyone else think that something on this page should be devoted to those confirmed to have abilities, but with no indication to what specific ability they posses? 72.198.6.171 (talk) 23:14, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

It was said that the founders of the company were people with great power, not neccesarily all with special ailities. --Piemanmoo (talk) 21:15, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Which Mr.Petrelli are you talking about? There are three of them.

[edit] Charlie's memory

Charlie's memory was eidetic. It was picture perfect beyond a short period of time with little exposure to the source material. Eidetic memory is not naturally attainable and is not simply really good. It's measured by remembering the pattern of random dots on a page an hour after having seen it for 30 sec. No one has EVER passed. Please stop changing it. Padillah (talk) 16:36, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] West?

What kind of name is that? West is a direction you find on a compass not a name. Wes would be more like it. Man that kid must have gotten beats growing up if he couldn't fly. Must have been a typo in the script that stuck. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Movermoine (talk • contribs) 04:36, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Umm, I know two people named West. It's a perfectly reasonable name. And what does this have to do with the article? Unless we are contributing to the content of the article (and, since his name is West, I don't see how complaining about it helps the article), please let's keep the comments for fan sites. Padillah (talk) 12:54, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes I would have preferred Wes too. I also think it was a typo that somehow stuck. But hey what can you do.Nicholas D'Agosto 01:11, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Graphic novel characters

I think the table in the List of Heroes characters is enough and we may deleted the section. What do you think? -- Magioladitis 00:44, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

I think that what Americans are best at is inventing new forms of conspicuous consumption. A man who sells snow guns for personal use (so that the kids can play in the snow even when the weather doesn't oblige) says, "New Jersey is a big area for us. There's no snow, and lots of disposable income."Keepmesane (talk) 23:06, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
I am trying to restart the conversation in Talk:List of characters in Heroes. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:46, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Amid

Amid was basically Ted Sprague before Ted Sprague. He had a wife that died from his radiation and he was supposed to be on 9/11 before he dropped out to be with his wife. He also had a connection with Matt Parkman, shown at the end. hIs name is on Chandra's list, too. He was in the unaired pilot. I can't seem to find a mention of him anywhere here, though. 206.159.155.148 (talk) 20:56, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

That's because he was in the unaired pilot. It's not part of the Heroes series. QuasiAbstract (talk) 19:57, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Matt Neuenberg's ability

I think it's a little too early to be labeling Matt's ability. It's not presented as "remembering" it's presented as "knowing" (a la John Doe). Admittedly the effect could be produced by either system almost identically but I think it's a little early to tell the difference. Padillah (talk) 13:43, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, John Doe would know to run when the Company shows up. And the cover page refers to his "gift of memory". He doesn't know everything, just information readily available to him. Wanderer32 (talk) 18:43, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
The cover page ref does limit the possibilities quite a bit, good point. However, in point of fact John Doe didn't know Digger was part of the Pheonix Organization so... :P Padillah (talk) 13:46, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Abu Aswan

In the graphic novel, Abu "has the power to levitate and move extremely heavy objects." Would this be that he is the one who is levitating or can he levitate the extremely heavy objects? Splitting hairs, I know, but still... ~QuasiAbstract (talk/contrib) 18:38, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

I know that's what the cover page says, but he wasn't actually shown levitating anything. All we saw him do is lift a boulder. If a future appearance clarifies his power as tactile telekinesis or gravity manipulation or whatever, we can change it then, but the boulder-lifting thing is all we have to go on right now. Wanderer32 (talk) 23:05, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ben Franklin

Should we mention ben Franklin in here? I know it never says he has a power, but it is implied, just like Angela Petrelli. If there is a source that confirms he had a power that would be great. BioYu-Gi! (talk) 16:07, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't, though it points to him being impervious (at least to electricity), there have been so many people who have walked away from being hit by lightning with little effect, this could be nothing more than a mislead. (Just look at the "dinosaur" Hiro was foreseen to attack). Basically, unless we get something concrete, it's no more than OR. ~QuasiAbstract (talk/contrib) 22:28, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] anyone knows?

if i am not wrong, there is 1 boy that show-up in season 1 that can absorb oxygen and nearly kill all his classmate, but only in news form by Future Natan (when become president). Anyone knows?--202.162.196.195 (talk) 09:39, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

There is a boy mentioned in "Five Years Gone". With so little information about the boy, we can't viably add the character, especially that the boy doesn't affect the plot at all. ~QuasiAbstract (talk/contrib) 13:12, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Is Elle really a "main character" at this point?

As of the end of Volume Two, she's not really played any bigger role in the series than, say, her father Bob, West Rosen, or Angela Petrelli, all of whom are listed as secondary. What exactly makes Elle one of the main characters over these others? Haleym76 (talk) 00:33, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

On Wikipedia, "main character" refers not to a character's importance to a story, but whether the actor or actress received star billing. –thedemonhog talk • edits 01:54, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ARG canon?

Is the Alternate Reality Game considered canon? I only ask because of a recent edit. An email from the ARG quotes "Linda Tavara was one messed up girl. She got to know one of Molly Walker's relatives well, maybe too well. Check it out at http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/." Would it be too speculative to say that the "one of Molly Walker's relatives" would be Ida May Walker? It seems logical, but there is a small leap to get to the same conclusion. ~QuasiAbstract (talk/contrib) 12:42, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Candace Willmer?

I was just wondering if Candice Wilmer's name is ever seen in a written source on screen(not including subtitles) as there is a character on Chandra's list called Candace Willmer which may be the same character. User:Garhdo

It is the same character and just a typo. –thedemonhog talk • edits 14:40, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Daniel Linderman to be merged here

Information in Daniel Linderman article is mainly plot description and certainly can be shortened enough that the character joins the main article. The character appeared in very few episodes in the first two seasons. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:30, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. –thedemonhog talk • edits 03:50, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Entry for Charles Deveaux?

Why is there no entry here for Charles Deveaux? He appeared more times than Brian Davis, Dale Smither, or Zane Taylor. His inclusion in "the photograph" would suggest he had a power of some sort. --T smitts (talk) 09:44, 11 June 2008 (UTC)