Talk:List of Half-Life 2 mods

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[edit] Guidelines for adding mods to the article

  • There must be some basic level of assurance that this mod is not vaporware. A general guideline is if the mod does not have a website yet or a downloadable playable version, it does not belong in this list.
  • Each mod should be listed only once. If it has both singleplayer and multiplayer components, list it only in one category, but be sure to remark on all of its play modes.
  • Mods should be inserted into lists in alphabetical order.
  • Do not create wikilinks (i.e. UltraCoolMod) for a mod unless it actually has a Wikipedia article. "Red" (missing) wikilinks will be removed.
  • Follow the general formatting and style of the other mods in the list when adding a mod.
  • Use formal language. Do not use the second person voice (i.e. "you" or "your"). Use proper spelling, punctuation, capitalization, etc. Remember, this is an encyclopedia, not a chatroom.
  • Write everything in a neutral point of view. This is not the place to editorialize on a mod, i.e. "This is uber" or "This mod sucks".

These guidelines have originally been written by Cyde. [1] --Pizzahut2 10:32, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why is this being changed?

I for one have used this page in it's previous form many times- I think I speak for many people when I say it was informative and offered all that was neccessary to make a judgement to know what you want to know more about, and it included links to mods. --89.243.96.212 10:13, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a directory. We should only be listing notable mods here. This is normally asserted by coverage from multiple reliable sources. Marasmusine 10:38, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A word on copyrights

When creating an article about a mod, you cannot directly copy and paste the description from another website (not even from the official mod website), unless the text on the website is under a license compatible to the one Wikipedia uses (GFDL). There are two options:

  • Write your own text.
  • The copyright owner explicitly grants usage under the GFDL.

--Pizzahut2 14:45, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Serious Overhaul

I just gave this article a thorough cleaning up in the multiplayer section. I cited every statement of an award, as well as finding others. Perhaps this should be a requirement of notability since several of these mods don't have any award that I could dig up. // 3R1C 02:16, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Add "Counter-Strike: Source" to the list?

One of the game's increasingly popular multiplayer mods, Counter-Strike: Source has not been included. Is there a reason for this? 202.89.172.211 01:26, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Strictly speaking, CS:S isn't a (Half-Life 2) mod. It's a separate game which just happens to use the same engine as Half-Life 2, the Source engine. --Pizzahut2 21:53, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
And mods are separate games that use the same engine as Half-Life 2, I don't understand what you mean. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.37.49.8 (talk) 18:48, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Use our Wp:Verifiability policy. If multiple reliable sources call it a Mod, then we do too. If they don't, we don't. Marasmusine (talk) 22:17, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
The difference between a game and a mod is that a game is standalone - it will work without the need of another game or mod. A mod is a modification of an existing game - it will not work without this game. With Valve's Source SDK Base things are a bit different, Source mods need this instead of a game. --Pizzahut2 (talk) 19:52, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Clean up

At Talk:List of Half-Life mods#Wikipedia is not a directory the suggestion was made to remove the mods which don't have their own Wikipedia article. I'm thinking the same can be applied to the Half-Life 2 mod list. --Pizzahut2 23:41, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shredded Sails

Moved this from the main article to here, as it belongs in discussion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.71.176.40 (talk • contribs) 02:26, 12 June 2007

I would like to add a new HL2 multiplayer MOD called Shredded Sails, which was recently developed by Teravision Games ([2]). This comapny decided to make this MOD mostly to display its abilities to develop next gen. assets and to have a sample of their capacity to work with a next gen. game engine. Shredded Sails can be downloaded here: [3]. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.75.243.244 (talk • contribs) 15:01, 8 June 2007

[edit] Black Mesa

Black Mesa is multiplayer co-op as well; that's what most of the fuss is over... BlueRaja 04:48, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Flaw in the system

Who are you to decide which mods are notable and which are not? PS. Not going to learn the wikipedia syntax just to point out an obvious flaw in the system. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.181.210.153 (talk • contribs) 17:07, 12 June 2007

The current idea is that you can add any mod, but it must have an article. If someone thinks the mod isn't notable, he or she can not just delete the mod at will, but has to follow Wikipedia guidelines. E.g. placing a tag for speedy deletion with a reason to be reviewed by an admin. Or with a proposed deletion, which anyone can contest, both of which must have valid reasons. Or by adding an AfD discussion. --Pizzahut2 18:14, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Categorising multiplayer mods

There's a good number of multiplayer mods, enough to put them into categories. I was thinking along the lines of gameplay types: co-op, CTF, (T)DM, objective(s), other. Or by scenario: sci-fi, war, HL2 themed, zombie, other. Just an idea. :) --Pizzahut2 16:15, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

By game type:

Capture The Flag
HL2 CTF, SourceForts
Cooperative
OC
Deathmatch
GE:S, PVK2
Objective(s)
BG2, Dystopia, ES, Ins.
Player vs. team
H:S, IG:TO, ZM
Sandbox
GM
Survival
ZP

--Pizzahut2 00:09, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mod articles at the VDC

While the VDC does have a GFDL compatible license, a lot of mod articles over there are a direct copy&paste from the official website. So often VDC articles cannot be used at Wikipedia (because of copyright/licensing). --Pizzahut2 20:42, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wiki links

I'm thinking that having a link to 2005 or to Mod DB in every award is a bit overkill. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Wikilinks. I can hardly see a relevance when linking to a year or day. So my suggestion would be link to relevant articles (e.g. Mod DB) sparingly, and I'm not sure if it makes sense to link to dates at all (within the scope of this article). --Pizzahut2 13:20, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] To Do: Empires

I noticed there was is a request for a wiki article on Empires mod. What's to keep it from being deleted again this time? It's been afd'ed before and subsequently removed in the drive to remove all mods in Nov '06. I'm not going to put any effort for the fun of it being deleted by non-notability you know. --L3TUC3 02:05, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

The only thing I can think of that has happened since then to make it notable would be the winning of ModDB's award, but all of the printed articles and awards from print media Empires had before it was deleted didn't do anything to sway the opinion that Empires wasn't notable. It would just be deleted again. Krenzo 03:21, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

In the meantime it also got the 3rd place at Mod DB's MOTY awards 2007 (Player's Choice). Not sure if that's sufficient to keep it from getting deleted again though. --Pizzahut2 (talk) 17:53, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Missing Mods

How about upcoming mods "They Hunger: Lost Souls", and "Science and Industry 2". And also, "Natural Selection 2", but it hasn't not been defined yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tucalipe (talk • contribs) 20:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

"Upcoming" and "notable" are usually mutually exclusive. Have either had any media coverage? Marasmusine 07:47, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Insurgency

I'm thinking this is a fairly notable mod.

Google hits:

--Pizzahut2 (talk) 12:57, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

The coverage looks good. Marasmusine (talk) 13:15, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

I remember the article was originally deleted because the mod authors used the same description as on their own website and did not resolve the (copyright) issue. But searching through the deletion log just now it appears that the notability is at least questioned. (It did however win the MOTY award (players' choice) in the meantime.) --Pizzahut2 (talk) 16:07, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fighting Mod For HL2

Hey, you guys forgot the only fighting mod for Half Life 2, One Must Fall: Destiny. [4] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.177.210.27 (talk) 23:45, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

This is just a selection of mods, not a complete list. Mods in here should be notable (in the context of Wikipedia, see WP:N). --Pizzahut2 (talk) 00:08, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Well... it is the only fighting mod you can find on ModDB. Would that not be considered notable? Want Proof? [5]70.177.210.27 (talk) 00:47, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

No, it wouldn't. The mod requires substantial coverage from (preferably multiple) independent, reliable sources. Alternatively some kind of award from a notable source. Marasmusine (talk) 09:06, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh, ok, sorry to waste your time, just that I'm a big fan of One Must Fall: 2097, and then I saw Destiny. 70.177.210.27 (talk) 10:28, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] References

There are quite a few references that are links to external scans of magazine pages. Whilst the images are useful for gathering information for material and citations, they shouldn't be used as the citations themselves. They should be changed to Template:Cite journal, with the links to the scanned images moved to this talk page. Same goes for the individual mod articles too, if they have been used there. Marasmusine (talk) 09:37, 4 May 2008 (UTC)