Talk:List of German Americans

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[edit] In the List? German immigrant descendant?

please add the list, and answer me


Mercedez Ruehl has part german ancestry. Raul Boesel is Brazilian but must have some german ancestry as well, based on a historic german immigrant wave to Brazil (hence the abundance of german or german-sounding last names there, sometimes even with the original Umlaut in place -see e.g. Giselle Bündchen- which in his case would make his original family name "Bösel"). Race drivers... what about the Bettenhausen and Unser dynasties? Obvious german names. 91.33.235.197 19:36, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] British people

See also the list at Talk:List of Jews. --Sheynhertzגעשׁ״ך 05:58, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] French people

[edit] others

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[edit] Should the jews be removed from this list?

I was wondering if the jews should be removed from this list since they already have there own list of jewish-americans. There are some other reasons that jews should be removed from the german-american list, like jews are not german they are jews. If this list was filled up with only jewish people who happened to have lived in germany before they came to america no one would think that this is a list of german-americans they would think of it as a list of jewish americans who lived in germany for a time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.186.76.248 (talk) 16:41, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Being Jewish does in my opinion mean to belong to a religious group not a nationality. Eventhough due to history jews are often seen as one group of people, much closer than other religions. Many Jewish people were born in Germany, felt German and fought for Germany during WW1. That they later emigrated because of eg nazi suppression, doesn't make them less German. I don't see why they should be removed from this list. No one would remove catholic persons from this list either and I don't see the harm done when someone is listed in both lists, german-americans and jewish americans . 213.67.102.196 (talk) 00:07, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
I suppose it is not surprising the Nazi beliefs still live on, such as the belief that Jews born and raised in Germany are somehow not German because only non-Jews can be German. This is complete nonsense, of course. Hmains (talk) 23:31, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
I think it's the other way round: Instead of only non-Jews can be german the ideology opined mostly is no Jew would claim himself to be German (after the Third Reich tried to annihilate Jewry). Espeacially in Germany itself there is a common fear of offending any Jew by callimg him German. --78.48.103.92 (talk) 17:40, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposal for a list of german-german-americans article and a list of german-jewish-americans article

Can wikipedians make a list of german-german-americans article that list only people who are german and not jewish people? Adding the jews in the german-americans list makes it to long.

Also the main reason why the people come to look at these list(list of irish-americans, list of italian-americans,..etc.) is to see the people from there own ethnic group who have contributed to american intellectual society not to see a people who think that they are part of that ethnic group but are actually not. Jewish people are not german they are a middle-eastern people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.186.76.248 (talk) 17:08, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Neither Ashkenazim nor Sephardim nor Cochin Jews are middle-eastern... but Mizrahim are. --78.48.103.92 (talk) 17:45, 19 February 2008 (UTC)