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[edit] Shriner and Wersching

In order to decrease the edit wars here, can someone please provide a reference to prove whether or not Shriner and/or Werschling are on contract or recurring status? --Elonka 03:32, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

I did this on the main GH page once. http://www.anniewersching.com/home/index.php?location=resume Wersching is RECURRING according to her resume on her Official web page. I have found no proof either way of Shriner, however I know the last time he left it was over contract problems, so one would think he's not, however thinking and logic aren't always proof. But there's proof of Wersching, will keep an eye out for Shriner. DJ-Siren 04:42, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Thank you, DJ-Siren. I was in the process of typing out a similar answer about Annie, but my browser page froze. As for Kin Shriner, I know I've read somewhere that he's not on contract, but, unfortunately, I can't recall where. I will do some hunting. MysticBlue 04:51, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Odd...someone changed Annie W. and Kin S. yet again, but they didn't show up in the page history. How is that possible? MysticBlue 05:14, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

We definitely have some persistent anons. If it keeps going on, I'll request page protection. In the meantime, here's a diff to the "good" version, to make it easier to revert:[1]. --Elonka 17:20, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
The best source of information is the official GH cast list. According to the cast list, both Wersching and Shriner are recurring. (As is Clifton now that his contract has ended.) Bradford Anderson, long the subject of edit wars, is officially on contract now. I'm not entire certain at the moment when it became effective, but it was definitely effective as of whatever today is. D'Amico 06:00, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Could you please explain where exactly that you are seeing this "official cast list," so that other editors can verify it? Thanks, Elonka 20:14, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
I saw both Shriner's and Werschling's names in the official show credits at the end of an episode. Doesn't that mean that they're on contract now? --Elonka 21:37, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
Wersching's site still says she's recurring. I read somewhere in an article after the emmy's that she's not too keen on contracting, not sure where that was though. DJ-Siren 07:08, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Her own website might just be out-of-date. In't it definitive that if someone's name is in the credits, that they're on contract? --Elonka 17:27, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
No, because the end credits also include recurring players as well. What happens is that they list all the contract players first (in the order they became contract players), then list recurring and guest players. Shriner and Wersching have always been in the recurring section. D'Amico 12:40, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
Not necessarily, Elonka. They could just be listing them if they appear on that day's episode. But I could be wrong. ;-) MysticBlue 17:54, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
They need to update the opening sequence so that we know who is and isn't on contract, since the opening only includes contracted people. I have yet to see an "official" list since they say the ABC website is HORRIBLE at updating. DJ-Siren 19:03, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Since sources are iffy, maybe we should change the format of the Wikipedia page? For example, instead of having "contract" and "recurring" sections, maybe we should have one big list, with a "status" column that indicates contract or recurring? And we could make the current actors stand out, maybe by bolding their names if they'd been on the show within the last year. --Elonka 19:22, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
That actually sounds like a good idea. That would be easier to change when they switch status as well as per Bradford Anderson when he finally signed his contract. DJ-Siren 04:32, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
That would be a good compromise, Elonka. ;-) MysticBlue 05:21, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
I went ahead to change it since I was bored :P the way I did it can be easily reverted back if we don't like it. I would like to clean it up a bit though, I almost think there's too much regardless of the way we have it, when we chart it like this. I'l let you decide once you see it. Also, I re-added Damon and Clifton since they should stay on the list until they leave at least. DJ-Siren 22:06, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the work! Though, hmm, this actually points out a lot of gaps to me. Shell Kepler, Amy Vining, Johnny Whitaker. Shouldn't we be including them? How are we deciding which names go on this page, and which to go on List of General Hospital characters? --Elonka 22:46, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
That's something we still haven't decided. I was looking at the character list and seeing names of people who were there for like a month. That's like Christie Lynn Smith, I just coppied the lists straight, but how do we know this maureen chick's coming back? She was on One episode as a guest on EDH. If it was under my control people like that would be on neither the cast or character list, but then you go back to that question again, how do we decide? I said on the Character discussion page that I think they should have to have been involved in at least ONE MAJOR storyline. That would have it so that people like the kids were included, but Nikolas's butler possibly not. You know what I mean? DJ-Siren 23:17, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Per my above statement, the Soap Central list does not have this maureen character on it as either recurring nor contract. Perhaps she's just a bit player in this storyline? DJ-Siren 23:17, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comings and goings

Just a suggestion, but when I was looking for references of the actual months, I realized they were all gotten off the same site. So, my thoughts are how about remove the comings and goings section and just link to the soaps.com comings and goings page, since that seems to be where most are finding it? Just a thought. DJ-Siren 20:35, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

  • I would support that. The current "Comings and goings" section seems to be an edit-war magnet, not to mention a spoiler problem. --Elonka 16:31, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Bad idea. All other soaps have their own section and this is not for you to decide. Most people checking on this information don't want to have to go to ANOTHER site for the info. That is why they come here. Please stop it. Soapfan06/July 1/5:36 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.57.176.109 (talk • contribs) 22:36, July 1, 2007
Most people do not consider wikipedia a reliable source of information due to things like this. If you must change ANYTHING cite it, it is as close to correct currently as it can be. DJ-Siren 22:54, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
If we still really want to have "Coming and goings" info, I recommend that we add a note (and cite) in the regular castlist table, rather than having a separate section. Also, does anyone have an opinion on the "Deceased cast members" section? I'm thinking that we should merge that one into the main cast list as well, and we can add "deceased" in the status column. --Elonka 23:57, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Honestly, it would take some work, but you could actually merge the entire page together, but your status's may get confusing if you have too many. DJ-Siren 00:13, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
Why do you guys always have to make things complicated? The page was working fine and why does General Hospital have to be the only show without a comings/goings page? Why trust just 1 site for casting info? It changes all the time! You could have 1 or 2 different dates depending on who has the more reliable info. Soapfan06 July 4 4:13
Honestly if you're taking that info off another site and constantly changing it, you're still giong to be editing constantly. Nobody will ever agree, and that's the point IT DEPENDS ON THE SITE. Therefor, I will add some of the other comings/goings links however, I still say we do not need the section. On that note, you could also run the risk of copyright infringement by taking those dates OFF of the pages as well. DJ-Siren 18:46, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
The "Comings and goings" section was not working just fine, it was the subject of constant edit wars, and accumulated unreferenced information like mad. We don't need it. If someone really wants to add such information we could add a "Notes" column to the main cast table, and information could be added there. It would probably be more useful in that kind of a format too. --Elonka 01:13, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

KEEP THE COMINGS AND GOINGS section!!! Why should GH be the ONLY page WITHOUT one?!?! Just because people have conflicting information doesnt mean people should completely ELIMINATE the section! The same goes for the Contract and Recurring section! BOTH WERE WORKING JUST FINE BEFORE SOME PEOPLE DECIDED TO CHANGE EVERYTHING!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.233.255.76 (talk • contribs) 22:53, July 8, 2007

Many of the soap opera pages are in the process of being updated. Quite simply, most of them were full of copyright violations, as they were direct copy/pastes of information from other soap opera websites. Not everything can be cleaned up at once, but the two soaps that received the most cleanup work so far are General Hospital and Days of our Lives. If you would like to participate in the discussions on what kind of cleanup should take place, you are welcome to do so. I recommend creating an actual account (it's free), and signing your posts with ~~~~. This will automatically date-stamp your messages and make conversations easy to follow. Also, please assume good faith. No one here is trying to make the articles worse, we're trying to improve them. --Elonka 23:28, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Some of the comings and goings are getting out of hand and based purely on unsubstantiated rumors. I mean, come on, Billy Warlock coming back as A.J.?! A.J. died on screen as did Courtney who was also listed as returning, but played by a different actress. Alyssa Milano as Brenda? That was started on WUBS by the moderator saying SHE wished AM would play Brenda! MysticBlue 08:08, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

There is NO PROOF that Jason Cook will be a Webber, in fact I found a completely different name on thedaytimedish. So that should be removed. (DJ-Siren) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.154.6.85 (talk) 05:52, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Livingston bumped to recurring.

According to almost every Soap page on the web, Natalia Livingston's recurring because her contract's out and she has not resigned. Used Soap Opera Network as reference. DJ-Siren 03:05, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

She has signed a new contract in the knick of time...please add her to the cast members section..Soapfan06/June 29/5:00

Source? TVGuide

Fixed, as found that she recently did sign.DJ-Siren 00:13, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I wish people would read the talk pages if they're going to edit.

Someone decided to change it back after I thought we decided it would work better the other way. I'm changing it back until I hear otherwise from you, Elonka. Hopefully the others will leave it as this isn't as easy for me to redo as I didn't save it. DJ-Siren 03:54, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

According to this person's talk page, he has a tendancy to just changes things to the way HE wants them without regard to other people's hard work. MysticBlue 08:55, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
To revert to an older version, just click on the "History" tab at the top of the page, and when you click on the date there, it'll take you back to the version of the page on that datestamp. BTW, thanks for the work! I'm curious what the bolding means though? --Elonka 18:47, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
In your suggestion you said "And we could make the current actors stand out, maybe by bolding their names if they'd been on the show within the last year." so that's what I did, assuming if it worked, it did, if not, it could be undone. DJ-Siren 22:00, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

This is becoming really annoying with people coming along and just changing things back to the way they want them. Elonka, I looked for the history tab to revert the page back to the way it was, but I just can't see it. MysticBlue 01:21, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

It should be up at the top of the page, next to the "edit this page" tab. More info (and a picture) here: Help:Page history --Elonka 16:19, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
I figured out the problem. I was using a different skin, so I didn't have the tabs at the top of the page. I've reverted back to the default skin, so now I have them. LOL! MysticBlue 05:46, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Soap Central Cast List

I'm using this as it's divided contract and recurring, as a guide, and much to my dismay, it appears Kin Shriner IS contract, however Annie Wersching is NOT. http://www.soapcentral.com/gh/castlist.php According to this, Clifton and Ingle are, in fact, correct in being Recurring as well. DJ-Siren 23:03, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I just found out Kin Shriner is now contract, as well. MysticBlue 05:35, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
GH has updated their opening sequence. Since it features contract cast members, why isn't Kin Shriner included? http://youtube.com/watch?v=uJ7-3vUUhUY MysticBlue 21:13, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
Order of Contract on Opening: Sonny, Carly, Jason, Sam, Robin, Patrick, Liz, Lucky, Emily, Nikolas, Kate, Ric, Alexis, Jerry, Jax, Lainey, Mac & Georgie, Maxie, Cooper, Spinelli, Lulu, Logan, Tracy, Alan's Ghost, Monica, Edward, Bobbie & Michael, Skye, Luke. Hmmmm, so maybe if they read this it will stop some of the wars. Edward moved to Contract and Baldwin back to Recurring. DJ-Siren 06:26, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
Actually, Ingle has been contract since he returned in 2006. Shriner has been recurring since his return last year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.17.178.143 (talk) 20:38, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] about the cast list

Can someone make up thier minds on how they are putting the contract and recurring characters to this page. Make a list of contract and another of recurring so it's easier to see. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Prisonbreak 2005 (talk • contribs) 22:16, July 7, 2007

This is something that I have brought up on the main GH page about the edit wars. This is something that is going to continue on, and I have pretty much given up on the constant changes. Everyone will say stop with the changes, but that is not going to help. That is one risk of having an encyclopedia that anyone can change. We all might just have to live with the constant changing. Shawn W 02:17, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
This was discussed above, and the consensus was to have a single cast list that indicates contract/recurring, rather than having two separate lists. It has also been identified that the current list is top-heavy with current actors, and needs to be expanded to include all actors that have appeared on the series. In other words, the consensus is that this list is not for a "quick-reference" for current viewers, it's intended as an encyclopedic reference with expanded coverage. If anyone disagrees, they are welcome to post their arguments here. As for the edit wars, they are not a foregone conclusion -- since many of the reverts are caused by anonymous editors, we can simply request "semi-protection" of the page, which prevents editing by anyone except established editors. But for now, that doesn't seem to be necessary. --Elonka 02:44, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Elonka. MysticBlue 05:39, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
So, I'm noticing we've decided to change it back? DJ-Siren 21:53, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sonya Eddy

So, since you're going to leave it back this way, where's the proof of Sonya Eddy being contracted? DJ-Siren 21:40, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

I didn't do the original edit (I don't think, I doubt it) but I can provide some verification of Sonya Eddy being on contract now. The news can be found in the August 28, 2007, issue of SOD, and was verified on-air in the August 24, 2007, credits where Eddy was listed as a contract player. I know it's in SID too, but I can't find that one right now and have no idea what I did with it. SID made a point of mentioning that the departure of Kiko Ellsworth as Stan seems badly timed now that Eddy has just gotten a contract, and I believe the article was speculating on possible recasts for the role of Stan. I'm pretty sure Sonny and Kate are on the cover, and it might even have been in last week's CBS SID. D'Amico 12:01, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] unneeded crossover

Why does it appear we are crossing over nightshift with GH on these lists while they've NOTHING to do with each other in actuality. The shows don't even follow each other, they should not be crossed over with characters from nightshift who made one or two appearances on GH total. DJ-Siren 21:51, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hope & Faith Dever

Hope and Faith Dever are no longer on the show:

Hello, Please excuse me if this sounds a bit mean, because I am not a mean person whatsoever. But it is spelled DENVER, and they were just on last week. Molly was in a scene with Ric and Skye. Information spread around the Internet is not always accurate. The source that you stated could be a fan-based web page that has this inaccurate information, but trust me, they are still on the show. I do have a source for the name spelling, but it will take a little while for me to search for the article and to scan it in if you want to see it.70.17.178.143 (talk)

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66.19.21.181 (talk) 23:01, 17 January 2008 (UTC)Hannah

Sorry, but you're incorrect. That is their official site. It IS Dever and they are NOT on the show. 66.19.17.168 (talk) 23:32, 17 January 2008 (UTC)Hannah

Okay, my mistake. I guess we all have our sources, but mine must be wrong.