Talk:List of Futurama episodes

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i finally finished it! Raemie 19:45, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Hehe, good job, it's looking great! :-) Maybe there should be some mention about how the episodes relate to the TV airings. I prefer the actual production order, but it could maybe be useful to cross-reference things for some. -- Jugalator 10:42, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
We need to update the Episode pages a bit. Mainly the Season 1 episodes have the same Writer and Director for each episode. Please, if you have the time and know the person that wrote or directed the episode, update the page accordingly. -Icweiner

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[edit] Episode Infobox

I created a template for the infoboxes on the episode pages. I used it for the Space Pilot 3000 page. The "Opening Subtitle" and "Opening Cartoon" parts of the infobox don't show on the infobox on the Space Pilot page. Could somebody try to work out the kinks in it and respond here? Also, on the subject of infoboxes, I also made a season one infobox, like the ones seen with The Simpsons. I'll make the Season 2, 3, and 4 versions of that infobox later. -Icweiner

I just fixed it up a bit to now show the "opening" parts, and also to attach the season box properly. -- Jugalator 11:00, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Series versus Season

Should we use "Series" or "Season", as in "Series 3" or "Season 3"? Personally, I say we should use Season as it is an American show. Also, we say "Season" on this page. -Icweiner

Yeah season is to be used as this is an american show series is used for english shows as those are the appropiate regional terms. Discordance 14:13, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Depth of Details and order

Just read Icweiners comment. I'd not say that more depth is necessary. For a quick overview this list is just perfect. If you want more information, I would suggest putting a link to Futurama_(TV_series_-_season_3) or the other seasons respectively. Also, concerning the seperation, I would suggest to arrange it according to the real air dates. IMHO, the production codes are not the measure. Wouldn't the air dates determine the order on the DVDs as well? Just some thoughts.--perelly 00:13, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

The DVDs are by production code, which is the reason there are 4 volumes to the DVD releases (corresponding to the 4 production seasons) and not 5 (corresponding to the airdate seasons). In addition Fox aired an episode with Cubert in it before the episode in which Cubert is introduced, so viewers would have no idea why a new character just shows up for no reason if they watched the series in air date order. Qutezuce 00:21, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Episode List Out Of Order

Could Anyone Resort All Of The Futurama Episodes by date beacause it is out of order. --67.34.214.196 16:51, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

The episodes in the list are sorted by production order, not date. This paragraph from the article explains more: "This list is in production order, primarily because this is the order used on the DVDs and it avoids a plot inconsistency of the broadcast order in which Cubert appears before he has been released from his cloning tank." --FlyingPenguins 04:26, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
This only aims to confuse people, why even have the season episode #'s "as seen on (FOX) TV". FOX diced up the show, and I don't see where their numbering system would be beneficial in an encyclopedic manner. Especially if the archive (DVD) numbers them as the creators intended. I think the original order Futurama was aired is historically irrellevent, would anyone object to removing that column?
Thinking on it some more, if it's become a means to reference the episodes theres good reason to keep it. It adds a sufficient amount of confusion though and should be changed to be more clear. Maybe put it in parenthesis underneath the production #? 75.68.117.79 21:47, 8 April 2007 (UTC)Mr. K

[edit] Episode "The Deep South" linked incorrectly.

When you click on the link to the Deep South it links to a different article about the "South" as opposed to the actual episode synopsis. I tried to change it but alas i do not know how.

Just noting that someone else did fix this at some point. Cburnett 03:16, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, yeah, I fixed it. I pretty much hardwired everything that linked to The Deep South to point to the episode instead. I probably could have just changed the redirect but I wasn't sure that was appropriate. If anyone wants to link to that episode in the future they'll need to do the same. Stardust8212 03:39, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Screenshots as fair use

In order to resolve the long standing debate over fair use of screenshots on List of Lost episodes, I am now trying to resolve the issue under the belief that the issue is an opinionated matter and not a matter of policy. Talk:List of Lost episodes#Fair use criteria number 8. I ask that people share their comments, but please try to keep the conversation in this section focused.

One thing that works against us is that the conversation tries to defend too many points at once. Try not to respond to comments about other aspects of the debate, and just take this one step at a time. Basically, respond if you think this is an opinionated matter regarding policy point 8 of WP:FUC or not.

I believe if we can break through on the issue of point 8, the rest will fall into place. -- Ned Scott 08:16, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] season 5

Blank Season 5 looks stupid...

  • I agree, anyone one else think the grid should be deleted until we at least have some more info? (such as titles and expected airdates) -- 68.37.125.87 16:12, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Yes, it should be removed. It's a tease!!!--Salvax 19:36, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Season 3 DVD set

Has anyone translated the message written in Alien Language that appears just after the copyright warnings?--Ukdan999 23:58, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Translations from Futurama. +Hexagon1 (t) 04:53, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Order

I seriously think these should be ordered by the broadcasting order, that is the order in which it was aired in, and that's the order most familiar to fans. The production order is more of the behind-the-scenes type thing, and they list the episodes by original air-date in many other lists-of-eps, like the Simspons list. +Hexagon1 (t) 09:43, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Good point, but the production codes for The Simpsons episodes do not necessarily indicate the air-date order (they only indicate when the episode was produced, within its season). The production codes for Futurama episodes signify the original intended broadcast order (which is the order they should be viewed in, otherwise plot holes can open). - 68.37.125.87 21:21, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, leaving it as-is is probably wisest. +Hexagon1 (t) 04:53, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Leave it in production order!!! The air dates mean absolutely nothing now since they will never again be aired in the exact sequence they originally were. The ordering now conforms to the DVDs which makes it easy to reference. Dukemeiser 01:19, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
I fully understand the production order, or vol. 1-4 on the DVD's vs. the broadcast order, or seasons 1-5. I prefer the production order, since that was the intended airing order, and would have been the broadcast order if it wasn't cancelled, and the remaining unaired episodes became the fifth season. What I want to know is whether the Internet Movie DataBase's air dates or these ones are accurate. The IMDB lists one air date for the first two episodes, which is what I personally remember. Many other dates don't match either. If it helps, I live in Canada, and would have watched these through a Canadian affiliate, not actually FOX. Both sources should match, right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.66.134.77 (talk) 19:58, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiquote box

If you are going to add a wikiquote box to an episode page, please place it under the episode infobox. If you don't, there is a big empty space on the page. Thanks!--Salvax 21:47, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] TOC

Why is there no TOC on the article page? Wouldn't it make navigating the page easier? Just wondering. Nashville Monkey 10:44, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] S02E18 is Mother's day or The Problem with Popplers?

In wikipedia it is Mother's day but try "S02E18 futurama" in google and all results are Popplers : http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&hs=zpm&q=S02E18+futurama&btnG=Search —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.78.146.186 (talk) 11:07, 28 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Season five episodes from Bender's Big Score?

I noticed the table claims the first four episodes of the new season will be taken from the upcoming movie however I recently heard on Attack of the Show that the movies would not be sliced and diced into episodes. The article linked in the edit summary [1] does not seem to indicate one way or another about the movies being used as episodes (perhaps I missed something) so I am wondering where this info came from. It would be really great to add a citation for that. Thanks for any info. Stardust8212 15:20, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

new link

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/news/comments/?entryid=397361

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Matt Groening: "I was frustrated when it got cancelled, but Fox, 20th Television is the one who came back and said, 'Would you like to do a DVD movie?'" Groening recalled. We said, 'Let's do two' and they said, 'Well, why not three?' and we said, 'Well, why not four?' and they said, 'Okay, four' and then that's it."

After this, Comedy Central won a bid to air the films as new "Futurama" episodes. "We're writing them as movies and then we're going to chop them up, reconfigure them, write new material and try to make them work as separate episodes. Chopped up is an indelicate way of putting it but we are doing them as movies and then we are reconfiguring them and writing new material and narration and this that and the other so that they'll stand on their own as episodes." Grande13 18:03, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, that link makes it much clearer. Stardust8212 18:13, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

The article states that every movie will be divided into episodes after they are released but I think that sounds wrong because I don't think that Comedy Central is going to air 4 episodes and then wait three months till the released of the other movie that wold take more than a year. I think some of the movies will be aired on TV before they are on DVD.

As far as I know there has been no date published for the airing of the episodes. It could be that none of the new episodes will air until all four DVDs are released. We can only state what has been published which is that they will be DVDs and then aired as episodes. If you have an article that gives more details I'd love to see it. Stardust8212 05:03, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mislabeled

There are technically 5 seasons out. They are spread on only 4 DVD sets. These episodes from the 5th season are mislabeled in wikipedia as part of the fourth season. These have been divided by where they are by DVD rather than season. Agent Novichok 03:51, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

maybe you dont see the big note at the top of the page....
"This list is in production order, primarily because this is the order used on the DVDs and it helps avoid plot inconsistencies.
Futurama was originally created as four seasons however it was broadcast as five seasons in the original airing.
The production code is the code used by FOX to indicate the production order of the episodes, and is in the format #ACV##. The first number represents the production season. ACV is FOX's series code for Futurama. The second number is the episode's number.
The TV broadcast code indicates the broadcast order. It is in the format S0#E##, where S0# indicates the broadcasting season of which there were 5, and E## indicates the episode's number."
yeah.... Grande13

[edit] THIS IS ALL WRONG!!!

THERE ARE FIVE SEASONS!!!!!!!!! NOT FOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! im telling you that there are five seasons, if you look at the time when they are aired, the dates are out of chronological order!!!!! I looove futurama, but this is all mess-ed up!!!!! sum1 correct it!!!!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.140.166.42 (talk) 04:33, 4 March 2007 (UTC).

Listen Noob, there are four DVD collections, hence 4 seasons. And learn to spell.207.134.166.42 (talk) 17:37, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Movie "production codes"

I see no reason to list the movies with the production codes of "XACV01" and "XACV02." Even though that would make them consistent with the list of episodes, there is no official production code for them... is there? --Hotdoglives 09:56, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of Futurama episodes by broadcast order

Because there has been, and continues to be, a fair amount of confusion over the ordering of the episodes, I have created List of Futurama episodes by broadcast order. The new list is not meant to supersede this list, but to supplement it. It gives the full perspective on the differences between the intended order the producers wished, and the mangled order FOX bestowed us. And it answers why the current list is out of chronological order, displaying that mis-order that, for better or worse, is what most folks are familiar with. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 08:01, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Watch out for the redirecting machine

You might want to look into a discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Using Wikipedia:Television episodes. User:TTN is going to be redirecting all of the episode pages to the episode list. If you don't want your hard work ELIMINATED, be sure to leave your comments there. —Zachary talk 22:08, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

I rather dislike being lumped into that discussion and if those pages are redirected here I'd say there would be a good number of people reverting those edits. The articles for Futurama are not abandoned as he seems to be claiming the other articles are and WikiProject Futurama is making a conscious effort to improve them, however the sorry state of many of the other Futurama related articles leaves us with quite a bit of work on our hands. If his argument is that no one is trying to get them to GA status he is quite incorrect as I, at least, am trying to figure out what we need to do to meet those standards. I'm not going to get wrapped up in the Village Pump discussion, looks like too much of a mess for me, but I appreciate you going into battle on our behalf. Best of luck and thanks for the heads up. Stardust8212 00:39, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Episode notability

Many or all of the existing individual episode pages for this series appear to fail the notability guidelines for television episodes, and have been tagged accordingly. These articles can be improved through the inclusion of real-world information from reliable sources to assert notability. Overly long plot summaries should be edited, to a maximum length of approximately ten words per minute of screen time. Trivia should be integrated into the body of the article, or removed if it is not directly relevant. Quotes and images should only be used as part of a critical analysis of the episode. You might also consider merging any notable information onto the show's "List of episodes" or season pages. Otherwise, when these pages come up for review in fourteen days, they may be redirected, merged or deleted. If you want any help or further information, then come to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television/Episode coverage. Thanks. TTN 00:29, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm not to sure about that. Many people here seem to think these episodes are notable, and also, many of the articles cite sources. Per this I'm removing the Notability tags.Ht/c 16:35, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WTF? I think this thing is missing episodes.

I seem to recall more episodes than this. In addition, I don't even see my favorite episode on this list. The one where the Nintendoo64 try to invade the planet. 24.117.164.51 03:11, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I believe they are all there, there were on 72 episodes in the original run. You're favorite story is actually part of Anthology of Interest II. --WillMak050389 03:15, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sortable table for broadcast order

Just thought I'd note that there is a sortable version of Template:Episode list at Template:S-Episode list. An example of how it's used can be see in List of The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya episodes or List of Hidamari Sketch episodes. -- Ned Scott 07:39, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

How can multiple separate tables be sorted as though they were one table? When sorting by production order, season 3 table is numbered 45, 46, 47, 50, 51. 48 and 49 are _missing_. They are there, but not sorted because they are in a different table. —Zachary talk 16:55, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, when I noticed that I did an "aw crap" moment. There might be a way to still do the sorting, since the sorting table as it we see it now is just a "cheat" of a sorting table. Even if we don't use sorting, having the parts of the episodes in fields like this will make changing styles really easy, both now and in the future. -- Ned Scott 07:56, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't feel confident enough in my table making skills to try this myself but would it be reasonable to simply combine the four seasons into a single table which would be sortable by production or broadcast number. Or would that just be unwieldy? I agree that four seperately sortable tables doesn't really work very well but I do like the sortability feature. Stardust8212 22:25, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Im going to change it back to the initial format as there are multiple episodes that are in cross categories, for example there are a few season 3 production episodes that appeared as part of season 4 and therefore arent effected or effectively sorted by individual sorts. Even if you were to sort all the categories individually things still wouldnt be in order as episodes can't jump from one category to the next. So it will remain in the history incase a solution is found, but it really doesn't add anything to the article in its current form. Grande13 (talk) 23:45, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
There's no point in changing it back when all we have to do is remove "sortable" from the table class. -- Ned Scott 00:26, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Still trying to figure something out here. There's a few ways to do it, so I'll work something up in my sandbox and show it to everyone, so we can choose what looks best. -- Ned Scott 05:59, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok let us know if you come up with anything that works Grande13 (talk) 16:25, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
I tried something with the tables. They were reverted, but I changed it back again. I just wanted to make the page look better. ЩіκіRocкstalκ 07:17, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunately the change renders odd spacing and an extra table cell under each entry. The reason the numbers span two rows is because of a sortable table feature we're trying to work out, which will allow us to dynamically view the list in broadcast order or production order. -- Ned Scott 04:36, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
I converted it for the time being. -- Ned Scott 05:20, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Well the tables are better for now. Good luck on making the new sortable table, but can't you ask a skilled IT user to help you? * ₩іκіRocкs/Love$ounds talκ 02:18, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
There's a few ways to do it technically, it's just a matter of doing it and making it look good at the same time. -- Ned Scott 08:58, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Episode review

We'll be starting a review of each episode to see which ones need to stay and go. The main discussion can be found at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Futurama#Status of the episodes? TTN (talk) 21:21, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Surprise surprise. —Zachary talk 16:56, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Comments on the current status of the Season 1 episodes are welcome and encouraged at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Futurama/Season 1 review. Stardust8212 17:10, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Merge all episodes here.

Because you're ruining every other wiki, why not this one? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.176.166.228 (talk) 02:13, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

You're not making any sense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.134.166.42 (talk) 17:38, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Centralized TV Episode Discussion

Over the past months, TV episodes have been redirected by (to name a couple) TTN, Eusebeus and others. No centralized discussion has taken place, so I'm asking everyone who has been involved in this issue to voice their opinions here in this centralized spot, be they pro or anti. Discussion is here [2]. Even if you have not, other opinions are needed because this issue is affecting all TV episodes in Wikipedia. --Maniwar (talk) 23:17, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Episode tables

I fixed all of the episode tables. They look much neater now and look really good. Holler if you have any comments. ЩіκіRocкs talκ 07:03, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

They weren't actually broken, it was just something put on hold. See #Sortable table for broadcast order. -- Ned Scott 06:36, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
 :( Oh, I didn't realise. But could you revert it back to my tables, just for now? ЩіκіRocкstalκ 12:14, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:FuturamaDVDs.jpg

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