Talk:List of Eyeshield 21 characters

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1 Article split
2 Grammar, spelling, etc.
3 Viz Translation
4 Sena's 40 yard dash
5 Character statistics
6 Sock Puppet Alert?
7 Hiruma's swearing
8 Ichiro Takami copy edit
9 About the Nasa Aliens
10 The Tone of Some of the profiles
11 Split off Ojo's article
12 Ushijima Buffalo
13 Seiyuu Info
14 Fair use rationale for Image:Unsui.gif
15 Fair use rationale for Image:Watt.gif
16 Fair use rationale for Image:Agon.gif
17 Fair use rationale for Image:Atsumi.gif
18 Fair use rationale for Image:Kakei.gif
19 Fair use rationale for Image:Kasamatsu.gif
20 Fair use rationale for Image:Kamaguruma.gif
21 Fair use rationale for Image:Gonzales-older.gif
22 Fair use rationale for Image:Gonzalez-younger.gif
23 Fair use rationale for Image:Hormer.gif
24 Fair use rationale for Image:Harao.gif
25 Article splitting
26 More managers and cheerleaders
27 Is Karin Koizumi a male or female?
28 Image copyright problem with Image:Devil Bats Logo.gif

[edit] Article split

I am currently splitting parts of this article, such as for the major teams to shrink the page down. Shingen 01:49, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, I'm currently at a PC that can't interpret non-English characters. So it'll have to wait, I s'pose. Shingen 02:21, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
When you do the split, could you also include the Nagas and Seibu with their own articles? Their descriptions take up so much space. Sake neko 01:16, 10 May 2007
- Do we have enough info for either Seibu or Shinryuji for a split? (the only team that has been split off so far is Ojo...which I ended up doing after realizing we had enough info from one of the manga volumes for the rest of the team outside the mains) Could also see a split for Kyoushin or NASA, but not even the Japanese Wiki has them in their own article. -StrangerAtaru 13:09, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Grammar, spelling, etc.

Honestly, this needs to have proper grammar and spelling. --141.117.155.221 18:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

This also needs to conform to the Viz manga translation's name spellings. --TcDohl 13:35, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

I don't think this violates NPOV, but I do agree that it needs a LOT of cleanup. I've yet to read more than the first chapter of the Viz manga, so I don't know their spellings yet. I'll do some cleanup later anyway. --Shingen 00:48, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Improved up to the heading of 'Yoichi Hiruma'. For subsequent edits, please use "Character statistics" instead of "Character info(s)". --TcDohl 15:14, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Please, don't remove the copyediting flag. This article is still in dire need of copyediting, since there are still grammar and spelling mistakes. --TcDohl 18:13, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Viz Translation

I'm sorry to have to burst everyone's bubble, but please, confrom to the Viz translation. Please, let's try to keep names in Western order unless they're in the Kanji-romanization bracket. Here's a list of some of the changes. Please add to this list as the list grows. --TcDohl 05:57, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Huh-Hah Bros. -> Hah Bros. (I know it makes less sense)
Ojyo -> Ojo (How the heck did Andrewwong36 get that?)
Rice-kun -> Riceman
Scumbag Shuffle -> Juvenile Delinquent Murder Method

[edit] Sena's 40 yard dash

His 40 yard dash was only when being chased by Cerberos, I think it was 4.9 seconds regularily.

Yes, but the 40 yard dash should only be for their fastest time. Add the appropriate information in the main body of the character profile. --TcDohl 22:47, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Character statistics

In volume 10, page 77 from the Japanese version, Sena is now able to bench press 45KG (100lbs) during his accidental enrollment into the San Antonio Armadillos. Shouldn't that be added?

For some characters, a "special technique" row could be added to their statistics indicating any special techniques they have, such as Sena's "4.2 second Speed of Light", "Devilbats Dive" and "Devil Cut" or Shin's "Spear Tackle", for example.

Finally, for some of the Devilbats team, their stats were listed in a star grid formation during volume 9 when they were deciding whether to go back to Japan or stay in America for the Deathmarch. From what I can make out in the manga...

Monta

Speed: 6/10
Catch technique: 8/10
Height: 2/10
Weight: 2/10
Power: 4/10

Yukimitsu

Speed: 3/10
Catch technique: 2/10
Height: 6/10
Weight: 3/10
Power: 1/10

Joumonji

Speed: 4/10
Catch technique: 6/10
Height: 5/10
Weight: 5/10
Power: 5/10

Kuroki

Speed: 5/10
Catch technique: 3/10
Height: 5/10
Weight: 4/10
Power: 4/10

Taganou

Speed: 4/10
Catch technique: 3/10
Height: 5/10
Weight: 6/10
Power: 5/10

Komutsubi

Speed: 4/10
Catch technique: 1/10
Height: 1/10
Weight: 5/10
Power: 8/10

Sena

Speed: 10/10
Catch technique: 3/10
Height: 1/10
Weight: 2/10
Power: 2/10

Maybe some use might come of this?

--Sera404 16:35, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sock Puppet Alert?

I think that there are anonymous users that are actually Sock Puppets of several users that I seemed to have scared off due to their consistent bad grammar and spelling. They just keep adding to this article without making improvements to it. --TcDohl 17:30, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hiruma's swearing

Should a trivia note be made on Hiruma's section about him using the "fuck/fucking" swear word (even spelt in katakana to have him saying it in English too) extremely often in the Japanese manga? I heard it was changed in the English manga version to "Darn" or something much milder, so it might be a fun note to point out for comparison's sake. Sera404 03:38, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

You heard wrong. Go buy the English manga for a real comparison instead of hearsay. No excuses please.

--TcDohl 15:00, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, it's "Damn" in the english release (and something similarly mild in the anime), though I believe it was actually "fucking" in the original, as well as in the Shonen Jump Special animation thing.

It was fucking. You are correct.

Yes. It is correct that it was "damn", but not "darn". And please, sign your stuff, please. And we seriously don't need a trivia note for it. This article is already quite long and needs to be shrunk and cleared of fancruft. --TcDohl 16:35, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ichiro Takami copy edit

I'm trying to rework the Ichiro Takami section a bit, and I'd really appreciate clarifications on a few points. First of all, what exactly is the truth that his coach told him? Would someone please explain what is meant by "calculations of passing to the player?" And finally, would it be more correct to refer to him as Ichiro or Takami?

Thank you. Invidia 11:45, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] About the Nasa Aliens

About the Nasa Aliens/Shuttles section - If I remember correctly, the manga had Apollo portrayed as a racist, who didn't let Panther play solely because he was black, and that got toned down to him making a mistake and getting kicked off the team in the anime. I'm just a random anonymous, so I don't really know how this goes, but should the manga version of the story get a mention?

[edit] The Tone of Some of the profiles

I think perhaps that in some of the profiles the tone is too informal and occasionally lapses into subjective interpretation. For example in the Unsui Kongo profile the last line about the elder Kongo brother viewing Agon's threat about practicing through 'rose tinted glasses' has little to do with what was actually presented on the page and more to do with the wiki writer's interpretation of Agon's character. I think perhaps that such things should be kept to a minimum and I am tempted to edit them out, if there are no objections

Thanks~ Booster. 8:20, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Split off Ojo's article

I'm starting to think of maybe splitting off Ojo's article into a new page, considering how much information we now have on them being Deimon's main rival. (furthermore, we could use that page maybe to add further info like all of the other Ojo team members like the list in vol. 11) -StrangerAtaru 15:56, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ushijima Buffalo

I was wondering if Ushijima from the Seibu Wild Gunmen should be given his own profile, since he is techniquelly one of the main players and has his own technique (Duel Air & Air Duel Horn). I noticed that he is mentioned but some other characters like Ohira Hiroshi and Onishi Hiroshi and thought that Ushijima should have his own profile as well.

CP9Zebra 23:32, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

I say go for it...also think the defensiveman from Shinryuji needs an article too. (the big guy seen alongside Agon, Unsui and Ikkyu..heck he even made the "all-manga popularity team". Haven't gotten to where he is yet though so I can't do it.) -StrangerAtaru 00:49, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Seiyuu Info

Yes, we have some characters, but is there anyone out there who can list the rest of the possible seiyuu. If you do, would you please update the seiyuu to the appropriate character? I don't know about others, but I know that this information would be greatly appreciated. - Sake neko 01:19, 10 May 2007

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[edit] Article splitting

Wiki's giving us headaches again regarding article size so I think we may need to create a couple more team-specific pages or cut them down to something smaller. My next bet for a separate team article is probably Seibu, though at this point you could also make arguments for Kyoshin or Hakushuu. -StrangerAtaru (talk) 00:30, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Alright I split off Seibu but the article is still too large. I think my next step is to prune the Hakushuu information since the game is over and I doubt we need all that information for characters like Marco and Gaō. (especially since the same may occur soon with the start of the Teikoku game) -StrangerAtaru (talk) 23:10, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] More managers and cheerleaders

Been adding a few things here or there on the page (mostly adjusting Hakushuu now the game's over and added the Kyoshin cheerleaders). Noticed the Japanese page had a few more female character names (for Amino, Hashiratani and Dokubari) and I'm debating if they're important enough to have on the Wiki. -StrangerAtaru (talk) 23:56, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Is Karin Koizumi a male or female?

I know he/she appears very girly, but the series has never placed a female character in any field position (they're always reserved to managing/cheerleading positions), so wouldn't it be a longshot to assume she is in fact a woman? Considering he/she is a quarterback, it seems more likely for him to be a crossdresser. In a sense, has he/she ever specified as female in the series? Any proof to his/her current gender assignment? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.45.113.16 (talk) 01:16, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

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