Talk:List of Even Stevens episodes

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• The decision was to redirect all episodes to the list. This is not a vote, so opinions only catering to fan interest play no part in it. TTN 19:28, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

All of the episodes of this series fail the notability guidelines for television episodes. The way for these articles to be improved is through the inclusion of real-world information from reliable sources to assert notability. That is unlikely to happen, and these only contain overly long plot summaries, trivia, and quotes. Per that, they need to be a small part of this list. If there are no objections, these will be redirected soon. TTN 19:03, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

• Not this crap again! ---- DanTD 20:22, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

• I object! I do believe you may remember the Spongebob Episode incident? Where all of the episode information was deleted? Afterward, Everyone (including me) was complaining about the lack of information. So speaking for the Society for the Prevention of Information Deletion (SPID), we suggest that you leave the episodes the way they are. If you do this, we shall greatly appreaciate this. Thank you. Liberator14 15:24, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

I object. Please use the Wikipedia:Television episodes/Review process. - Peregrine Fisher 05:46, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

P.S. Just a formality, if there are others willing to join the Society for the Prevention of Information Deletion, please write a follow up to this message. I understand this has no relevance to the article, but I have no where else to include it. In short, I do not want any angry e-mails from the staff, I'm just trying to help the cause. Thank you for your time. Liberator14 15:28, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

• Redirect per TTN. No shadow of out-of-universe notability established in any of these articles, which is the consensus standard laid out at WP:EPISODE. Eusebeus 16:27, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
  • What in God's name fits the criteria for "out-of-universe notability?" Do these episodes have to spark global upheaveal rivaling the phony Danish cartoon controversy or something? This whole thing is becoming asinine!! ---- DanTD 15:58, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
• Uncertain for most of the episodes, but definitely Strong Keep for Influenza: The Musical! WAVY 10 17:26, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Advice to interested editors

This is a boilerplate bit of advice to editors of television episode articles which have come under Wikipedia:Television episodes/Review.

There is fairly widespread consensus that not all television episodes are sufficiently notable to merit articles of their own in Wikipedia. In the interest of fairness, the Wikipedia:Television episodes/Review process has been established, to determine whether it's possible to establish out-of-universe importance and real-world context for television episode articles. For example, after uncontroversial discussion here, articles on individual episodes of The Simple Life were turned into redirects to List of The Simple Life episodes.

If you're interested in keeping episode articles, the key thing is to find reliable sources discussing individual episodes. Sources which may help establish notability for these episodes include reviews in newspapers, discussion in specialist magazines, and detailed episode guides. (Some of my fellow editors feel that episode guides aren't sufficiently independent of the subject to establish notability, but I disagree, especially for professionally published episode guides.) The key thing for improvement of these articles is to include some real-world content (ratings are a good start) and information beyond plot summaries and cast lists. If there are any books published about this series, see if the production or impact of individual episodes are discussed, and add that information to the episode articles. If someone used sources like these books on a handful of these episode articles, to indicate that the episodes of this series have received sufficient coverage in reliable sources that any episode of the series could have encyclopedic coverage, I'd support leaving the other articles as they are, because the potential would have been demonstrated. I hope that interested editors will take up this challenge, and improve the articles so that they won't be redirected.—Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 21:30, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

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