Talk:List of English words without rhymes

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Isn't this page titled "List of ENGLISH words without rhymes"? Why do people insist on trying to use words from other languages to rhyme these unrhymable words? Also, should slang that is not part of majority use be counted? Or, for that matter, made up "words" like names and such? If I say that glorange is a word I often use to mean "something made up" or that my parents named my sister Murple, that doesn't mean that these now become a part of the common contemporary English language and therefore orange and purple are now no longer rhymeless. This is why we have to stick to mainstream, scholarly accepted English language dictionaries for official word lists.

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[edit] Of (has no rhyme in British English)?

...rhymes with POV. Annatto (talk) 00:39, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

How do they pronounce 'of' in British English? I'm guessing it isn't ovee as Annatto's comment seems to be suggesting. o_O --user.lain (talk) 19:32, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dialectal differences

It should be noted that a lot of the disputes mentioned below are due to different varieties of English. In my variety, that of North East England, /gulf/ and /wulf/ rhyme, whereas there is no rhyme between /luv/ and /ov/. I think people should be aware of this when editing, and perhaps it might be useful to specify the dialect being discussed. Also, it might be useful to reflect this on the main page as is done for 'of'. Panda (talk) 11:51, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Citizen and Music

How about these two? I can't find rhymes for them. Are they okay to add? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Samy Merchi (talk • contribs) 20:48, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Citizen rhymes with Men. Music rhymes with medic


Citizen rhymes with denizen, and they're both on the list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Annatto (talk • contribs) 00:29, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

The stress on both citizen and denizen is on the first of their three syllables, so for a perfect rhyme they would need the first vowel sound to rhyme as well. The same principle applies to music. maxsch (talk) 16:16, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Silver

Does "silver" have any rhymes? Can I add it? Dylanga 03:24, 30 November 2006 (UTC) Wait: I just read the rest of the article and had my question answered... never mind.


Silver rhymes with shiver, sliver, liver, never or anything else with "er"

see definition of rhyme, sil is the stressed syllable, therefore the sounds il-ver must be repeated for it to be a true rhyme and not just a slant rhyme. maxsch (talk) 19:52, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

To find a rhyme for "silver"

Or any "rhymeless" rhyme
Requires only will,
Verbosity, and time. - Stephen Sondheim.

[edit] Purple

Purple does in fact have a rhyme, Hirple, ref: http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_561509841/hirple.html I'll leave it to somone else to validate this and update the main page.

I've also read a poem which was specifically written to spite the purple-naysayers, where it was rhymed with "burp'll" (contraction of "burp will"). But I don't recall where I read this.

Burp'll is not strictly one word, so it doesn't count :) SGGH speak! 22:12, 16 June 2007 (UTC)


Purple rhymes with people.

What about empurple? It's mentioned by Merriam Webster's Rhyming Dictionary. -- 213.6.22.41 (talk) 23:13, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Purple rhymes with qurple.

[edit] Rhythm

OK... Rhythm rhymes with, among other words "algorithm" and "logarithm". Empty rhymes with "kempty," meaning 'rough hair or wool' (random but true). In the article, it is mentioned that orange rhymes with "sporange," and purple with "curple" or "hirple."

So rhythm, empty, orange and purple have been removed from the list.

Red Tim 22:06, 18 January 2007 (UTC)


Rhythm = hynm (like a song) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.197.197.16 (talk) 08:31, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Different, Valve, and Luggage

Different rhymes with Coherent; Valve rhymes with Halve; Luggage rhymes with Baggage.

Am I wrong, or does the article really need some corrections in that field? :)

if 'different' rhymes with 'coherent' it rhymes with 'parent' too, so we must be careful of how subjective and/or fussy we are/aren't being. that said there are several more on that list that do actually rhyme with other words. oh and sign you name next time ;) Motorbyclist 11:43, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I'd be very interested to hear what sort of pronunciation you're using to get those words to rhyme. ;) Hengler 00:25, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

One of the main impediments to rhyming with Luggage etc, is the insistence on rhyming from the last stressed syllable, so you also need to match the 'ug' sound in luggage, not just the last syllable. It is a silly rule and thus probably a silly page, but that is the 'strict' definition of rhyme. maxsch 20:25, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Just maybe

What about:

Mytle the Purple turtle did hurtle down the hill

?? 210.10.123.98 23:21, 14 March 2007 (UTC)


I believe that those are slant rhymes on purple.

74.32.63.250 01:47, 30 May 2007 (UTC) Some random dude

[edit] Monster/Mobster

Doesn't the word "mobster" rhyme with "monster?" Or is "mobster" considered slang? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.70.242.196 (talk) 21:17, 16 March 2007 (UTC).

Uh, no. 82.93.10.238 22:53, 20 March 2007 (UTC) Similarly, wouldn't ninja rhyme with Jah (the rastafari term for god)? Because Jah, is religious and not slang. I know it's a pronunciation of yahweh, a hebrew word, but then, isn't ninja also a foreign word?

[edit] Duck?!

Why is duck on this list? Does not duck rhyme with buck, cluck, f***, luck, muck, puck, suck, stuck, struck, tuck, truck, and yuck? And probably with a list that long, a whole lot of other things too? 68.251.149.101 16:31, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wasp

If you are British, "wasp" rhymes with "clasp". --71.205.166.118 13:07, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Indeed.

Maybe in some parts of Britain. I'm from Liverpool and to me those two words don't sound remotely similar.

I have never ever heard anyone pronounce those words the same. It is "wosp" and "clahsp" SGGH speak! 22:10, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chimney

Flimsy? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.54.53.81 (talk) 02:29, 24 April 2007 (UTC).

"olive - rhymes with door hinge"

Consider it edited...

Somestrangeflea 18:13, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Does Anything Rhyme with piano

The rhyme finder doesn't seem to think so. (Unless Indiana rhymes with piano)

Soprano rhymes with piano. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.192.237.142 (talk) 14:38, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Soprano, serrano, kanno, anno, etc. As the emphasis is on the 'a-no' full rymes do not require the 'i.' If the O is pronounced like a short a there are about a billion bajillion rhymes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.191.201.148 (talk) 18:04, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hostage

Kind of new to the site, trying to figure out how to work things...

dosen't postage rhyme with hostage?


[edit] Purple

Shouldn't cirle be listed as a half rhyme for purple? SGGH speak! 22:10, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

how about "thirsty"? the closest i can think of is "firstly"


[edit] Parmesan

How about parmesan or muenster? Do they count as rhymeless words

[edit] Pint

I was blogging about rhymes for pint (http://www.dictionaryevangelist.com/2007/09/poets-rejoice-maybe.html) and came here to edit this page; not sure if I should link to my post as a reference, or if I should cite the OED's page for rynt as a source (seeing as how it's a subscription-only resource). Esperluette 23:43, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] iron rhymes with siren

can anyone edit this for me? thanks (iron rhymes with siren) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.210.39.55 (talk) 19:44, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

I think it's different: EYE-urn and SIGH-rehn. AkvoD3 14:11, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orange?

(Nothing Rhymes with Orange) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.210.39.55 (talk) 22:59, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

um, yup, it's in the list.maxsch 05:13, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I think 'challenge,' 'lozenge,' and 'scavenge' all rhyme with orange.

And really you would have to pronounce door hinge, door henge or orange, oringe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.6.10.75 (talk) 20:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

70.65.34.148 (talk) 01:49, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Chocolate

What about 'percolate'? Does that fit as rhyming? Just wondering. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.201.44.249 (talk) 00:28, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Wiktionary vs. Wikipedia?

I think the links should be links to Wiktionary and not Wikipedia. But that's just me. AkvoD3 17:34, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree. maxsch 20:27, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
I looked into doing this, and it is not that hard, almond does the trick. So I am wondering now, is it done? The content of this page has no relationship to the wikipedia article on almonds, so wiktionary seems to me to makes more sense. Would anyone object to changing the links to wiktionary links? maxsch 17:59, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] words removed from the list because they actually do have rhymes

So please don't put these ones back, and if you take others out of the list, put them here so others can check and not be tempted to put in words that do have rhymes they just haven't thought of: Ones I've removed don't include two word rhymes like "door hinge" for "orange" (still dubious), rhymes with dialect or overly obscure words (pint with rynt), or slant rhymes like "siren" for "iron". This is just a list of words that actually have rhymes that once were erroneously in the list of words without. maxsch 03:40, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

  • science (rhymes with compliance)
  • dunce (rhymes with "once")
  • month (rhymes with "millionth")
  • crayon (rhymes with "rayon")
  • rhythm (rhymes with "algorithm" and "logarith")
  • sculpt (rhymes with "gulped")maxsch 19:19, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
  • alterity (rhymes with "parity") maxsch (talk) 02:32, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
  • valve (rhymes with "salve") maxsch (talk) 00:58, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Also:
  • cannabis (rhymes with "abacus") 134.173.94.225 (talk) 04:44, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Um, sorry, cannabis does not rhyme with abacus, or even succubus. maxsch (talk) 18:59, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Cannabis doesn't rhyme with abacus and I also don't agree that month rhymes with millionth or that valve rhymes with salve. --user.lain (talk) 19:39, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] orange - lozenge?

Is this not a perfect rhyme? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.168.127.10 (talk) 19:02, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

It is not. Nor is cringe or hinge a rhyme for orange. The stress is on the "o" in orange, so for a rhyme to be perfect it would have to start rhyming from there and 'lahz' doesn't rhyme with 'oar'. maxsch 22:58, 15 November 2007 (UTC)


how bout seringe or la' range —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.197.197.16 (talk) 08:34, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Some of the stuff on here

I'm not going to go into the main article to make edits (well actually maybe), but some of what people have said in the discussion is quite bizarre to me. Working down: in the English I speak, "citizen" does not rhyme with "men" because anything rhyming with "citizen" would have to end in "itizen" - the first syllable being the stressed one. "music" and "medic"? I wouldn't know where to start because I don't know how they could be thought to rhyme. "algorithm" and "logarithm" have the stress on the first syllable so do not rhyme with "rhythm". Never heard of "kempty".

"different" and "coherent" - can't see it at all. "valve" and "halve" - no. It's like "valv" and "hahv". I'm English by the way if this explains anything. "lugguage" and "baggage" - no. "mobster" and "monster" - what? "ninja" wouldn't rhyme with "Jah" anyway but would with "ginger". "olive" and "door hinge"? That's a joke. "soprano" and "piano" - no because it's prounounced "soprahno" and "piano". "postage" is like "poastage" whereas "hotage" isn't. "month" and millionth" - no because it's like "milli'nth". There's no "u" sound. Ands anyway the stress is on the first syllable so it's not even close.

And ones I haven't seen mentioned - I can't think of a rhyme for "of"? Anyone? Don't say "dove" or one of its rhymes! "ov" and "duv"! If you can have "twelfth" then why not "fifth" which is different from "fith"? "eighth". "tenth" and "length" maybe (which do not rhyme with each other). Also on the main page, why do "bachelor" and "spatula" only almost rhyme? "promise" and "Thomas" do not rhyme. There is an "i" sound in "promise" not found in "Thomas". Bejjer (talk) 21:34, 26 February 2008 (UTC)Bejjer

"length" and "strength" actually. Bejjer (talk) 21:46, 26 February 2008 (UTC)Bejjer

[edit] One-syllable words

I was thinking about this list, and it's quite clear that it's no feat whatsoever for a word with more than one syllable to have no rhyme. If someone put any effort into it, this list could get ridiculously long. I would suggest that there should be a page for words with just one syllable that have no rhyme. It's far more "impressive". Just looking at what I've written here - what rhymes with "syllable", "someone", "effort", or "ridiculously"? Apparently there's "billable" and "meticulously" but you get the point. There would be thousands of words with more than one syllable with no rhyme. It's only impressive for a word with one syllable - "of" being the King of them all (unless you can find a rhyme for it). Bejjer (talk) 21:44, 27 February 2008 (UTC)Bejjer

I agree with you to a point, but this isn't a page about feats, it's a page that lists English words with no rhymes. I would not argue against separating the list into words with no one-syllable rhymes and words with no two or three-syllable rhymes. I don't think it matters much how long the words are, I think the interesting thing is how many of the syllables need rhyming, i.e. where is the stressed syllable. And, lastly, doesn't "love" rhyme with "of"? maxsch (talk) 20:25, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
"love" doesn't rhyme with "of" in English English. "luv" versus "ov". I tend to agree with you about the stressed syllable. I think it would be worth having a page for words with the last syllable as the stressed syllable that have no rhyme - not just because it's a "feat" but because one page for words with no rhymes would just be ridiculously long if someone put any effort into it.Bejjer (talk) 19:10, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Chaos

Naos? 24.218.46.235 (talk) 02:44, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Purple

You guys are so dumb. I say we take Purple off the list. You guys have missed the most obvious rhyme there is: Nurple! C'mon people, isn't this supposed to be a good encyclopedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.98.88.247 (talk) 17:45, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Plankton

what about yankton in South Dakota

[edit] month

rhymes with hunth an abbreviation for 100 thousandth

[edit] plinth

synth as in synthsizer —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.16.64.174 (talk) 05:08, 22 May 2008 (UTC)