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[edit] Zdenko Kalin

was NOT Croatian. He was Slovene, born in Solkan (Slovenia). Please remove him from the list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.210.254.97 (talk) 18:48, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Can we add Leslie Thomas (Tom) Starcevich to the military section please - thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.8.150.249 (talk) 08:09, 25 February 2008 (UTC)


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[edit] complete rewrite needed

This article needs complete cleanup rewrite. This page has been a playground for idiots that make jokes and other idiots that use the former idiots to accuse entire croatian nation for megalomania.

So this way you demostrate your knowledge about this topic and supreme mind telling us who is idiot and what the accusation is?--Factanista 08:25, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Also, there is a lot of spam here. Some 3rd class artists or scientist propably see this page as a chance to put their names on the internet.

I suggest puttin "[citation needed]" next to every possible name here and deleting all unexplained names.

--Ante Perkovic 19:15, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clean up

I'm willing to clean up this article as long as somebody agrees to do translations for me from the Croatian wikipedia whenever I need them. The translations don't have to be perfect, I'll fix them grammar and spelling-wise, just enough to work with. I'll place whatever translations I need here under:

[edit] Translations Needed

Antidote 13:15, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

  1. Ljubo Babić
  2. Vladimir Becić
  3. Cata Dujsin

[edit] Ivo Tatic

I found very little information on this architect but the information I did find suggests he was notable. Why isn't there any information on him? Does he perhaps have an article on another wikipedia? Antidote 13:55, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of actors

Why have the likes of Eric Bana, John Malkovich, Tom Hanks, Denise Richards etc...been removed from from the list here.

If someone has one parent or has some link to Croatia by blood why not mention it...and that inludes Marco Polo, Haydn and Maradona.

All famous people on Wiki who have a mixture of orign even a 1/4 tend to outline it in the first paragraph.

Jagoda 1 03:51, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

As per The Serbian Americans by Jerome Kisslinger, Chelsea House Publishers New York 1990 pages 99-101 John Malkovich is a Serb. The consulting editors for this book were:
  • Ann Orlov, Managing editor, Harvard Encyclopedia of American Ethnic Groups, Harvad MA
  • M.Mark Stolarik - President, The Balch Institute for Ethnic Studies, Philadelphia
  • David M. Reimers, Professor of History, New York University
  • James F Watts, Chairman, History Department, City College of New York
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.75.5.121 (talk • contribs) 00:15, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
About Malković I know, he even has living relatives in Croatia, Marco Polo is questionable though he was born on Hvar. Ivo Andrić and Ruđer Bošković were Croats. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.172.14.249 (talk • contribs) 12:05, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Ivo Andric was a Serb, he wrote mostly about serbs and people in bosnia, he lived in serbia, was serbian ambasador, and both of his parents were Serbs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.185.100.111 (talk) 12:21, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

I have found some intersting theories and propaganda on the net.Above statement is one such peice of rubbish. Just because soemthing is in print doesn't make it truth .

JOHN MALKOVICH IS AMERICAN HIS FATHER WAS A CROAT, END OF STORY.

John Malkovich's father never declared himself as a Croat. The people who worked on the book above are supreme authorities as to the ethnic groups in the USA--Mario.radin 12:44, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Serb propaganda my friend in book form, i only know him to be know as American of Croat originJagoda 1 03:52, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Yeah sure, whenever something is in Serbs favor it's Serbian propaganda, stop being childish and believing in CROATIAN PROPAGANDA. For god sake...
Also if someone has living relatives in Croatia, that doesn't make him Croatian! 91.148.98.69 13:21, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I can also show you books to say Nikola Tesla was Croat, but we all know he was simply born in Croatia to Serbian parents.

As for John Malkovich he was always know as Yugoslav later as Croatian...very few places will list him as Serb and if they do it's usually a mistake.

PS We're fighting over silly things. God Speed to all. Jagoda 1 00:45, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WHY DID SOMEONE DELETE, IVO ANDRIC, RUDJER BOSCOVICH AND JOHN MALKOVICH????

PLEASE DON'T START AN EDIT WAR. THESE PEOPLE ARE OF CROAT BLOOD AND SHOULD BE LEFT ON THE LIST...PLEASE Jagoda 1 05:11, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

DELETING THEM IS VANDELISM AND WILL BE REPORTED. Jagoda 1 05:11, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Srbi su vrlo aktivni po tim nekim pitanjima. Svojataju nenormalno, vrlo drsko. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.172.14.249 (talk • contribs) 12:01, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
Ja samo ne razumin zasto oni to minjaju, i to stalno svaki dan...zasto treba pravite te probelme. Ako se zna i oni kazu da su Hrvati kako odmah oni nalaze neke verzije da su Srbi.
Zao mi je da ima nekih koji to rade ...nema smisla i ispadau glupi jer sami znaju da ti ljudi nisu Srbi Jagoda 1 22:55, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Ivo Andric nije hrvat, Ivo je rodjen u Bosni. Covjek nema veze sa Hrvatskom. Bosanski Katolik. Sta ga veze za Hrvatsku po vama? Religija? Mozda je onda i Papa Hrvat........vi hrvatski nacionalisti treba malo da smirite dozivljaje. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.214.204.164 (talk) 09:09, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Asim Kurjak

Asim Kurjak has been accused for several infamous things, such as abusing harvested egg cells to achieve exceptional results in treating fertility problems and recently of pretty huge plagiarism of his science works (basically, copying parts of other scientists work). If that is proven true, he should be moved to "Infamous" section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.152.209.139 (talk • contribs) 08:42, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

About Kurjak's plagiarism see details here [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.75.5.121 (talk • contribs) 00:13, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
It is now official: [2]. Mr. Kurjak told that he is going to ask for international examination of his two papers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.14.208.175 (talk • contribs) 22:50, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Police is investigating claims of giving his patients egg cells taken from other women [3] - HRT —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.14.208.175 (talk • contribs) 22:02, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Ethical Comittee of AZVO has issued an statement confirming BMJ claims [4] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.14.208.175 (talk • contribs) 19:23, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tesla

Has anyone counted how many times he's been added and removed? Just curious. I understand he was an ethnic Serb born and raised in Croatia. As someone with no involvement in the issue, may I point something out? The title of the article says "Croatians". Many people would interpret that to mean "People from the country of Croatia". The article is not titled "List of Ethnic Croats". How about drafting an introductory paragraph to set the rules? Maybe if you define the rules, it would be easier to decide who belongs and who doesn't. Just a suggestion. Fan-1967 00:23, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

No dilemma about Tesla. Born in the Military Frontiers which was (taht time) under direct rule of the Viennese Court, moved out the Austro-Hungarian Empire before 1881 when the Military Frontiers was integrated into the Croatia and Slavonia Kingdom. Claiming such a nonsense is the same as to claim that Archimedes is an Italian due to the fact that his birthplace Siracuse is in today's Italy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.75.5.121 (talk • contribs) 00:17, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
And I'll repeat, nothing in the article defines what is meant by "Croatian".
Regardless of what government was in power, the place was called Croatia when he was born there.Fan-1967 16:41, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
Wrong - the place was called Military Frontiers —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.75.5.121 (talk • contribs) 23:54, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Really? I guess these people in 1868 didn't know that. They thought it was Croatia. Fan-1967 01:40, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Firstly read what you have intended to call upon. The reference given by you denies what you've wanted to prove. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.75.5.121 (talk • contribs) 01:44, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
It contains 54 occurrences of "Croatia" as a place name. Fan-1967 14:39, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
All I'm saying is, if you define the terms up top, you shouldn't have the constant revert wars below. Fan-1967 16:41, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tesla in the wrong category

I noticed that Nikola Tesla is listed in "Social Science" not in "Inventors" and he really has nothing to do with social science! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.131.103.10 (talk • contribs) 11:28, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mihajlovic

Why isnt Sinisa Mihajlovic in there? He is as croat as tesla is —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.248.137.228 (talk • contribs) 16:51, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Good remark. He is a Croat by his mother's side. Kubura 09:28, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Juraj Dalmatinac

Translating Giorgio Orsini into Juraj Dalmatinac does not make him a Croat--Mario.radin 00:12, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Junior Eurovision winner Dino Jelusic?

I'd like to suggest a Croat for inclusion in the list of Croats, Dino Jelusic.

He won the Junior Eurovision Song Contest in 2003.

He's already listed in Wikipedia at: Dino jelusic

A video of him singing the winning song, "Ti Si Moja Prva Ljubav" in 2003 at 11 years of age can be seen at: www.youtube.com

His website is at www.dino.hr (English) & www.dino.hr (Croatian)

I get the impression that he is highly talented, and I strongly suspect he will become well-known worldwide. (OK, that's just my opinion, but I give some reasons if required).83.71.5.32 19:30, 3 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Vandalism

According to this article's history, it has been repeatedly vandalized in recent time. This is classified as plain removal, and is to be as per Wikipedia:Vandalism reverted and reported here. --PaxEquilibrium 19:26, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name spamming

This page needs thorough cleaning/filtering. Too many unimportant or not-so-important names. We don't have to list here every Croat on this world that exists or existed. Kubura 08:37, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nazis are in Italy not Croatia

In order to response to some Great-Italians here:

1.During the www2 many Italian troops were situaed in Croatia. At the beginning of italian occupation, in the night 3rd/4th July 1941 Blackshirt troops from Split , assisted with armored escort of carabinieri destroyed almost all stores in Split . Reason: the owners rejected to change the store names from croatian into italian. Similar things that were happenning ex. in Germany [5]Kristallnacht

2. Italian occupation of Istra has lasted unfortunately much longer. For the Slavic population it can be compared with Apartheid or Jewish destiny during Nazi regime. During the occupation of Istra all Slavophones had to italianize their names. Even the names on the graves were italianized. That was for more than 20 years of one of the worst fascist terror in the 20th century.

3. You forget that Nazis were your companions for 12 years. In fact Italians/Germans were inventors of fascism/nazism. So , do not give us a lectures about our history. Even still today are being legally sold all the souvenirs of Duce and Fuhrer in Italy. Not in Croatia

Take look at these links: [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16]

Smrt fašizmu! Pozdrav Domovini! --Anto 21:02, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Religion - Bishop Joseph James Potocnak - NOT A CROATIAN

I am the niece of Bishop Potocnak. My father is his brother. Both are alive; therefore, I know my heritage. Bishop Potocnak is 1/2 Ukrainian (Rusyn), 1/2 Slovakian. He is not a Croatian, nor does he consider himself one. He considers himself an Eastern European immigrant to the US because of his parents' background, but I know Croatia has NEVER been considered our land of origin. Please remove this as it is incorrect - and also unfair to the two countries to which he does associate himself. While I obviously consider this an indisputable fact as I am his niece, I will leave it to others to determine that. However, I'd like this changed as soon as possible. I would be happy to add the information under the other countries as well as a bio of my uncle.Winterlongone 01:30, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

hahaha, you're lying, to the US?? Isn't he from South Africa? I've added him to the list along with the other bishops... Potocnjak is either Slovanian or Croatian, probably Slovenian tho, now that I think about it... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cold water (talk • contribs) 05:44, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
No...I'm not lying. My uncle, who spells his name Potocnak (no j, please) may currently be a bishop *in* South Africa, but is not FROM South Africa. While he now reports directly to Rome, his initial association was Sacred Heart, US branch (Wisconsin - he went to seminary there). Potocnak is (according to my grandparents) Slovakian, *not* Slovenian. My uncle, in fact, was BORN in the US, in Pennsylvania to be exact. It is his parents who were the immigrants. His mother was Ukrainian (Rusyn), father Slovakian. Please take your ignorance and racism somewhere else, please.Winterlongone 19:47, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Marco Polo

MARCO POLO WAS BORN IN KORCULA NOT HVAR —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.167.78.99 (talk • contribs) 06:50, 8 January 2007 (UTC)


Marco Polo was born in Venice. Quote from "Il Milione": Marco Polo, savio e nobile cittadino di Vinegia. Please, have a look here: [17]

[edit] Maradona

I dont believe Diego Maradona is croatian. Hes under the sports players. can anyone change this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.254.211.239 (talk • contribs) 11:25, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Thsi lists people who are Croatian, or who have "Croat ancestry" - which is the case with Maradona as his grandmother or somethign was a croat. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.165.118.58 (talk • contribs) 11:30, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dukes

Mislav and Domagoj should be added to the military list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.172.26.227 (talk • contribs) 13:58, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleaning of this article

This article needs thorough cleaning up.
So many names that don't deserve to be here. I see (self)propaganda of anonimous persons. Kubura 14:19, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sasa Petricic (Media) is not a Croat

He is Serbian. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.230.76.20 (talk) 05:12, 8 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Ivo Andric is not from Croatia or a Croatian!

Ivo Andric is born in Bosnia in a catholic family! Ivo Andric has never lived in Croatia, he spent his life writing books in Serbia, that is also where he recived his Nobel prize. Claiming that Ivo Andric is from Croatia is as stupid as claiming that Kim Il Sung is from Zimbabwe. Ivo Andric has also stated numerous times that he is in fact Serb.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Adnan22 (talk • contribs) 17:15, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Adnan, read the article before you say something. Here's a scanned picture, where Ivo Andrić declared himself as a Croat (he did that part of his life).
Is this enough? Kubura 07:56, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
No it is not enough, Ivo Andric has nothing to do with croatia, he has never lived in croatia. As it says on the paper he is from Bosnia. Later on in life Ivo Andric has stated that he is serb. He has spent his life in Serbia, and later on stated that he is a serb. Bottom line is, he is born in Bosnia and not croatia. He is definetley not from croatia or a croatian national.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.214.204.91 (talk • contribs) 13:00, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Childish denying. Look at the evidence. He declared himself as Croat in one part of his life. But his family is Croat family. Live with that. Kubura 18:32, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
No but rather nationalistic lies to decieve others. You do realise that many people in Bosnia and Serbia and hell even Slovenia call themselves Croats even though they DO not or have NEVER lived in Croatia? Explain to me why he chose to live his life in Serbia and not in his "homeland" croatia? Because he is NOT croatian, he could be croat but NOT croatian!
And stop deleting my argument about Marijan Benes, who also is NOT croatian! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.214.204.75 (talk • contribs) 19:06, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Marijan Benes is a Bosnian

Can you people stop listing personalities who are not from croatia as famous croatian people? Marijan Benes is and has lived in Bosnia in the town of Banjaluka. He is a Bosnian catholic, you can come down to Banjaluka find the pub called "Nana" and ask Marijan Yourself! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adnan22 (talk • contribs) 14:33, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Oscar Nemon

Please can you change the sculptor Nemon Oscar to Oscar Nemon as his name is the wrong way round? Many thanks, Emma —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.3.130.151 (talk) 19:22, 17 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Johnny Mercer is not Croatian

Johnny Mercer is not Croatian. He himself was born in Savannah, Georgia, USA. His father's line is American for several generations. His maternal grandparents were Croatian immigrants, but his mother was American-born and a US citizen. Scott Johnson 14:59, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I have 2 more people to add to the list.

Anthony Burulcich - the drummer for The Bravery.

Andrew O'Keefe - TV personality, best known as the presenter for Deal or No Deal in Australia.

Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.105.180.221 (talk) 05:20, 16 April 2007 (UTC).


I have one for you to add to the list.... Frank Vlasic ......The creator and owner of Vlasic Pickles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JRagus (talk • contribs) 07:32, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tito

CAN SOMEONE REMOVE THE PICTURE OF TITO? WHY IS IT THAT OF ALL THE PEOPLE HE IS THE ONLY ONE WITH A PICTURE? PLEASE REMOVE IT TO PRESERVE MY SANNITY. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.105.136.42 (talk • contribs) 02:55, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Add Zvonimir Berković

I propose adding Zvonimir Berković, film director, screenplay writer and university professor (See IMDB about Berković, or Wikipedia about Rondo, one of his films). He is also quite uncontroversial.

--Dfabulic 05:01, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I've stopped contributing to this list

So far, I have added many names, and contributed greatly to this list, but because most of the names have been taken off, I just don't feel like continuing doing this. This list is pretty weird. There are many other celebrities with distant Croatian heritage that I've found, but don't feel like adding them here. I wish we had another site for that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cold water (talk • contribs) 23:37, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The German - US cinema director Werner Herzog

In some biographies is written that at least one of his parents were Croatians,it seems that his father.His real name is mentioned to be Werner Stipetic,if this is not a legend.Ewan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.139.47.229 (talk) 09:37, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infamy?!

u cant write that! or u must write it for every nation! so please, delete it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.3.22.27 (talk) 13:37, 22 May 2008 (UTC)