Talk:List of Criterion Collection releases

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[edit] Laserdisc releases

So far the rule was that Films that have appeared on Criterion Collection DVD releases are omitted from the following list... I am fine with changing rules but this deserves a discussion. Hektor 03:11, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Sorry Hektor, I didn't spot that rule. You're welcome to remove the ones that I added if you want to keep to it. Although having the full list for both DVDs & laserdisks does let you include the laserdisk spine numbers SteveCrook 02:47, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
Sorry I wrote too fast, there is no rule here, but in this case I think we should put all the laserdisks. Maybe create another article maybe called List of Criterion Collection laserdiscs with a link in this one... Hektor 21:16, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rumors

Should rumors about future Criterion Collection issues be in here ?Hektor 14:15, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

I would say no unless maybe Criterion themselves have somehow hinted at it. Thebogusman 19:35, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Future Releases

I removed the titles listed at the bottom as being released at sometime in the future because a) for the titles in question, they were all re-releases and wouldn't actually change anything on the list, and b) this isn't a rumors or speculation site. Even if it's been officially announced, is it so horrible to wait until they've at least formally placed it online in the Coming Soon section with a number and everything? Things get delayed all the time even after being "confirmed", and this collection always has so much speculation to begin with. I think the list here should be reliable first and foremost, not in such a rush as to be one of the first to "scoop" something, which certainly isn't a function of an encyclopedia. Just my two cents. Girolamo Savonarola 23:18, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Order?

These films should be listed either in order of their Criterion release (with included date) OR in order of their original theatrical release. Peyna 16:50, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

They have a catalogue number order which is how they are identified both on the spine of the case and also on the website. This roughly corresponds to their DVD production order, although sometimes releases are delayed due to last minute corrections. Famously the #1 disc, Grand Illusion, was delayed well beyond the other initial releases because a better-quality source was found shortly before the release. That doesn't change the fact that the title was intended (and ready) to be released as the first release. I don't see the point in a theatrical release order, since we link to the dates, and the Criterion spine number tends to be the most popular way of "chronologically" listing them. Also, it allows the list number to match the spine number. Girolamo Savonarola 18:38, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

That's fine, it just wasn't clear from the article why they were in the order they were in; perhaps explaining this would be a good idea. Peyna 18:50, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hard to edit

The use of the # tag to effect the numbering makes this way-to-long page a cast-iron bitch to edit. It is imposible to find any film when your in the Edit This Page window because they are in no organized sequence and (Mozilla) "find" wont find a word or phrase that is in a Java edit window. I just updated "The Horses Mouth" and forgot to pipe it and now i can't find it again. Someone may want to fix that and come up with a new way to organize this stuff. 69.72.7.40 15:56, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Dude, if it bothers you, change the # to real numbers and add section headers. It would take ten minutes max. Cop 633 16:02, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

K? I'll put it on my "to-do" list some day... or you can do it. Off to fix other links. 69.72.7.40 16:05, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

OR, turn off Java. And use the regular edit window. Jobjörn (Talk ° contribs) 23:46, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Not just is this page hard to edit but is also hard to read. With 380 names in the list and all the information getting crammed in just separated by commas and braces is illegible. Someone please take the pain to make a well formatted table. I will do it myself if I get sometime but if in the meanwhile someone can, please do. Vivek 21:22, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
The list is now a table—with fixed numbers—solving most of the editing issues. —MJBurrage • TALK • 18:15, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This list needs to be alphabetized

Putting this list in "catalogue number order" sort of defeats the purpose of having it on Wikipedia, i.e. it is not an encyclopedic reference. Going with a "catalogue number" order seems to be "jargon".. something to be avoided (WP:MOSDEF). "Think of the reader" (WP:BETTER) is one of the basic concepts for a Wikipedia page, re: "did Criterion release bla bla bla?" and or "Is some film I want to see available from Criterion?". If you know the spine number then that means you got the DVD in your hot little hand, no need to look it up. And with 380 entries on this page it is hard to find the film you are looking for or browse the list for other notable films (well there is FIND but that again defeats a purpose of Wikipedia, that is the ability to discover some new link or relationship). This whole list should probably rearranged in alphabetical order. Looks like a long job for someone’s rainy day. Fountains of Bryn Mawr 17:31, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

I believe that the new wiki engines features include an implementation for making tables user-sortable by different columns. Given that, it would probably just be best to arrange it in such a manner that virtually all of the provided information (title, spine number, year of release, director) can be used to order the list in any way one likes. Girolamo Savonarola 21:34, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
In the mean time you can check information with sort features as you want from the Criterion Collection's official site. Vivek 21:24, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sortable list

Where's the code for the "user sortable table?" ... This seems to be a simple matter of text transcription, for which I have numerous tools. Maybe I can help ... leave me a msg on my talk page. Ta, David Spalding (☎ ✉ ✍) 17:04, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Information on the new sortable tables is here.Cop 633 22:23, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
I recently did make the list sortable. The default order is still by Spine number which is the most common way of organizing Criterion releases as a group, but a simple click can change that to suit the readee. As a result, I have also added to the notes, trying to make them usefull even when the list is reorganized (I.E. one cannot count on the notes being in a particular order anymore.) —MJBurrage • TALK • 18:15, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More Information--Editions?

I don't know if anyone is enough of a Criterion buff to be able to do this, but wouldn't it be nice to list all the different editions Criterion has had for each title? (Or at least any that changed the content--remaster, new source, new extras...) I'd like to be able to find out when I see a bargain on ebay if it's not b/c it's a less valued edition (like the Third Man I just bought (maybe I just need to trust the market...)). I haven't found any source online, including Criterion itself, with this info. Of course, over crowding the table would be a problem--but maybe it could have expandable boxes?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.14.111.82 (talk) 17:28, 30 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] DVD <-> Laserdisc

The lists should both be at equivalent article titles: List of Criterion Collection DVD releases and List of Criterion Collection Laserdisc releases. This current list, based on the title should include both. If no one disagrees here, I'll move it next time I happen to look in here. Jun-Dai 08:22, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

There's no point to having a combined list; feel free to move this article to a more precise title, however. Girolamo Savonarola 10:52, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Director sortability

With the lists being sortable, it would be good to have the directors here and on the laserdisc list listed last name first. I'd qualify this as another rainy day task. Doctor Sunshine talk 20:12, 30 September 2007 (UTC)